Very interesting Ullrich interview



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[email protected] (mr60percent) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> You dont have to read any of his books to realise how little value Armstrong places on personal
> relationships. I was sickened by the all consuming ego and self-centered nature of this guy as far
> back as '95 when he used the death of Casartelli (his teammate, college and supposed friend) as an
> emotional spring board to win a stage in the '95 Tour.
>
> If a friend of mine died in a race I dont think I could even turn the pedals let alone have the
> desire to win. The grotesque image of Armstrong crossing the finishing line pointing to the
> heavens a couple of days after Casartelli's death is truely sickening but not surprising.

Yeah, and that guy from Telekom, too, whazzisname? Vinokourov? winning Paris Nice after his best
friend died? What an asshole.
 
"PedalChick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (mr60percent) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > You dont have to read any of his books to realise how little value Armstrong places on personal
> > relationships. I was sickened by the all consuming ego and self-centered nature of this guy as
> > far back as '95 when he used the death of Casartelli (his teammate, college and supposed friend)
> > as an emotional spring board to win a stage in the '95 Tour.
> >
> > If a friend of mine died in a race I dont think I could even turn the pedals let alone have the
> > desire to win. The grotesque image of Armstrong crossing the finishing line pointing to the
> > heavens a couple of days after Casartelli's death is truely sickening but not surprising.
>
> Yeah, and that guy from Telekom, too, whazzisname? Vinokourov? winning Paris Nice after his best
> friend died? What an asshole.

How close to Casartelli was Armstrong? I doubt that the friendship ran very deep. Vino and Kivalev
were much closer. Take a look at the charity race Ullrich did with him at the end of the season.
IIRC, it was covered recently in either Cycle Sport of Pro Cycling.
 
And if frogs had wings, they wouldn't scrape their ass when they hopped.

-Scott

"Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> And if mice had wings they'd be bats.
>
> "kb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > blah blah blah...
> >
> > Ullrich is gonna kick Lances ass this Summer, no doubt about it.
> Lance is
> > getting weaker, Ulrich is getting stronger and has a better team to
> ride for
> > him this year (TTT!)
> >
> >
> > "Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Robet wrote:
> > > > > Am I mistaken but if the USPS team had not won the team time
> trial
> > > > > competition, Lance might not have got the yellow jersey after
> all.
> > > >
> > > > Stage 4 TT results (from http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/tour03/?id=results/stage4)
> > > > 1. USPS
> > > > 2. ONCE +:30
> > > > 3. Bianchi +:43
> > > >
> > > > Final GC: (from http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/tour03/?id=results/stage20)
> > > > 1. Armstrong
> > > > 2. Ullrich +1:01
> > >
> > > And Lance backed way the hell off after Jan fell in the final TT.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
 
[email protected] (Marlene Blanshay) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, "B. Lafferty"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Matt Cahill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > > And Lance without his bike leaves alot to be desired.
> >
> > Nice line.
>
> Gee, if only we could be this critical of our world leaders and hold THEM up to the same scrutiny!

Well, I have enough respect for Lance as to be a bit circumspect. When it comes to Bush I can barely
manage to keep speaking English.

I think Bush is a stupid, cowardly, lying, weasel faced, spoiled rich kid. He reminds me of every
stereotype evil rich kid in every rich man/poor man themed movie that I have ever seen.

The man was elected on character issues. This I find ironic, since he hasn't any character. I would
vote for weenie waggling Clinton a hundred times over before I would the spot of shame that now
fills the presidency.
 
On 1/16/04 9:52 AM, in article
[email protected], "Matt Cahill"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] (Marlene Blanshay) wrote in message news:<blanshay-
> [email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, "B. Lafferty"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "Matt Cahill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>> And Lance without his bike leaves alot to be desired.
>>>
>>> Nice line.
>>
>> Gee, if only we could be this critical of our world leaders and hold THEM up to the same
>> scrutiny!
>
> Well, I have enough respect for Lance as to be a bit circumspect. When it comes to Bush I can
> barely manage to keep speaking English.
>
> I think Bush is a stupid, cowardly, lying, weasel faced, spoiled rich kid. He reminds me of every
> stereotype evil rich kid in every rich man/poor man themed movie that I have ever seen.
>
> The man was elected on character issues. This I find ironic, since he hasn't any character. I
> would vote for weenie waggling Clinton a hundred times over before I would the spot of shame that
> now fills the presidency.

And you work for the Treasury Department??!!

You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby. I bet he has more character than you ever did!!
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Matt Cahill) wrote:

> [email protected] (Marlene Blanshay) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > In article <[email protected]>, "B. Lafferty"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Matt Cahill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > >
> > > > And Lance without his bike leaves alot to be desired.
> > >
> > > Nice line.
> >
> > Gee, if only we could be this critical of our world leaders and hold THEM up to the same
> > scrutiny!
>
> Well, I have enough respect for Lance as to be a bit circumspect. When it comes to Bush I can
> barely manage to keep speaking English.
>
> I think Bush is a stupid, cowardly, lying, weasel faced, spoiled rich kid. He reminds me of every
> stereotype evil rich kid in every rich man/poor man themed movie that I have ever seen.
>
> The man was elected on character issues. This I find ironic, since he hasn't any character. I
> would vote for weenie waggling Clinton a hundred times over before I would the spot of shame that
> now fills the presidency.

Tell us how you really feel... I mean that sincerely, since so few people do this. However, I wasn't
merely referring to Bush when I meant 'world leader', there are plenty of other scuzzbags out there.
 
In article <[email protected]>, "B.
Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "PedalChick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (mr60percent) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > You dont have to read any of his books to realise how little value Armstrong places on
> > > personal relationships. I was sickened by the all consuming ego and self-centered nature of
> > > this guy as far back as '95 when he used the death of Casartelli (his teammate, college and
> > > supposed friend) as an emotional spring board to win a stage in the '95 Tour.
> > >
> > > If a friend of mine died in a race I dont think I could even turn the pedals let alone have
> > > the desire to win. The grotesque image of Armstrong crossing the finishing line pointing to
> > > the heavens a couple of days after Casartelli's death is truely sickening but not surprising.
> >
> > Yeah, and that guy from Telekom, too, whazzisname? Vinokourov? winning Paris Nice after his best
> > friend died? What an asshole.
>
> How close to Casartelli was Armstrong? I doubt that the friendship ran very deep. Vino and Kivalev
> were much closer. Take a look at the charity race Ullrich did with him at the end of the season.
> IIRC, it was covered recently in either Cycle Sport of Pro Cycling.

I watched PN and it didn't seem sleazy at all. Everyone was obviously traumatized, the guys on
Cofidis were all crying. It was so sad, Vino clutching his bouquet and sobbing and weeping. I'm
amazed he was able to go on, but for some I guess it's just the opposite- you either can't go on or
it makes you more determined. He probably figured his friend would have done the same if the
situation was reversed. Anyways, how many sappy tv movies and whatever make us all blubber for the
exact same reason, like hitting a home run for the little dying kid ("I'm DYING???").
 
"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BC2D6AA4.8CEBE%[email protected]...
> On 1/16/04 9:52 AM, in article [email protected], "Matt Cahill"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > [email protected] (Marlene Blanshay) wrote in message news:<blanshay-
> > [email protected]>...
> >> In article <[email protected]>, "B. Lafferty"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Matt Cahill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And Lance without his bike leaves alot to be desired.
> >>>
> >>> Nice line.
> >>
> >> Gee, if only we could be this critical of our world leaders and hold
THEM
> >> up to the same scrutiny!
> >
> > Well, I have enough respect for Lance as to be a bit circumspect. When it comes to Bush I can
> > barely manage to keep speaking English.
> >
> > I think Bush is a stupid, cowardly, lying, weasel faced, spoiled rich kid. He reminds me of
> > every stereotype evil rich kid in every rich man/poor man themed movie that I have ever seen.
> >
> > The man was elected on character issues. This I find ironic, since he hasn't any character. I
> > would vote for weenie waggling Clinton a hundred times over before I would the spot of shame
> > that now fills the presidency.
>
> And you work for the Treasury Department??!!
>
> You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby. I bet he has more character
than
> you ever did!!

Just finished O'Neil's book. I suggest you get a copy and read it. They're a bunch of
characters alright.
 
Steve <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<BC2D6AA4.8CEBE%[email protected]>...
> On 1/16/04 9:52 AM, in article [email protected], "Matt Cahill"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > [email protected] (Marlene Blanshay) wrote in message news:<blanshay-
> > [email protected]>...
> >> In article <[email protected]>, "B. Lafferty"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Matt Cahill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And Lance without his bike leaves alot to be desired.
> >>>
> >>> Nice line.
> >>
> >> Gee, if only we could be this critical of our world leaders and hold THEM up to the same
> >> scrutiny!
> >
> > Well, I have enough respect for Lance as to be a bit circumspect. When it comes to Bush I can
> > barely manage to keep speaking English.
> >
> > I think Bush is a stupid, cowardly, lying, weasel faced, spoiled rich kid. He reminds me of
> > every stereotype evil rich kid in every rich man/poor man themed movie that I have ever seen.
> >
> > The man was elected on character issues. This I find ironic, since he hasn't any character. I
> > would vote for weenie waggling Clinton a hundred times over before I would the spot of shame
> > that now fills the presidency.
>
> And you work for the Treasury Department??!!

Are you saying I dont have a right to an opinion based on my employer ? Or are you saying I only
have a right to your opinion ?

>
> You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby. I bet he has more character than you ever did!!

And your mama wears combat boots !!!

Do you see how childish this statement appears ? Yet, you have no more information on which to
assess my character then I have to assess your mother's choice in footwear. On the other hand there
is a wealth of public information available on which to base an assessment of Bush's character.

Stupid
- He appeared ignorant in the election debates...remember taunts like "That's liberal math" when
trying to counter Gore's points on the budget ?
- Not a particularly impressive academic record

Cowardly
- Dodges the draft through Daddy setting up the reserve position
- Fails to follow orders to report to duty under that very same reserve position
- Says "Bring it on" to the Iraqis ...who did...to the tune of hundreds of American soldier's lives.
- Hid in some underground bunker during 9/11.

Lying
- Runs on an anti-nation building plank and then promptly works on a strategy to nation
build in Iraq.

Weasel faced
- self evident

Spoiled rich kid
- Again, Daddy's reserve position
- Placements in prestigious schools despite his poor academic record
- Spent much of his youth drunk

If you need specific references for any of these points ...they can be provided.

PSI also consider "You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby." as a compliment. Thanks.
 
"Matt Cahill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<BC2D6AA4.8CEBE%[email protected]>...
> >
> > You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby. I bet he has more character than you ever did!!
>
> And your mama wears combat boots !!!
>
> Do you see how childish this statement appears ? Yet, you have no more information on which to
> assess my character then I have to assess your mother's choice in footwear

<snip>

Dumbass -

Steve does not understand things like that. You're wasting your time.
 
On 1/17/04 8:24 AM, in article
[email protected], "Kurgan Gringioni"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Matt Cahill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Steve <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<BC2D6AA4.8CEBE%[email protected]>...
>>>
>>> You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby. I bet he has more character than you ever did!!
>>
>> And your mama wears combat boots !!!
>>
>> Do you see how childish this statement appears ? Yet, you have no more information on which to
>> assess my character then I have to assess your mother's choice in footwear
>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>
> Steve does not understand things like that. You're wasting your time.
>
>

Dumbass -

Go play with your parrot
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (mr60percent) wrote:

> You dont have to read any of his books to realise how little value Armstrong places on personal
> relationships. I was sickened by the all consuming ego and self-centered nature of this guy as far
> back as '95 when he used the death of Casartelli (his teammate, college and supposed friend) as an
> emotional spring board to win a stage in the '95 Tour.
>
> If a friend of mine died in a race I dont think I could even turn the pedals let alone have the
> desire to win. The grotesque image of Armstrong crossing the finishing line pointing to the
> heavens a couple of days after Casartelli's death is truely sickening but not surprising.

I'm not always the biggest fan of Lance, but I had no problem with that at all. What better way
to honor the memory of a teammate (or other person you had a connection to) than to win a race
(or other event)? That kind of thing happens pretty regularly, in all kinds of sports.

--
tanx, Howard

Said you hit Roddy Piper, and didn't get a hassle, Promised your girl filet mignon, then took
her to White Castle! LL Cool J

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Matt Cahill) wrote:

> Steve <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<BC2D6AA4.8CEBE%[email protected]>...
> > And you work for the Treasury Department??!!
>
> Are you saying I dont have a right to an opinion based on my employer ? Or are you saying I only
> have a right to your opinion ?
>
> >
> > You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby. I bet he has more character than you ever did!!
>
> And your mama wears combat boots !!!

Sidis or Carnacs?

> Do you see how childish this statement appears ? Yet, you have no more information on which to
> assess my character then I have to assess your mother's choice in footwear. On the other hand
> there is a wealth of public information available on which to base an assessment of Bush's
> character.
>
> Stupid
> - He appeared ignorant in the election debates...remember taunts like "That's liberal math" when
> trying to counter Gore's points on the budget ?
> - Not a particularly impressive academic record
>
> Cowardly
> - Dodges the draft through Daddy setting up the reserve position
> - Fails to follow orders to report to duty under that very same reserve position
> - Says "Bring it on" to the Iraqis ...who did...to the tune of hundreds of American soldier's
> lives.
> - Hid in some underground bunker during 9/11.
>
> Lying
> - Runs on an anti-nation building plank and then promptly works on a strategy to nation build
> in Iraq.

Go here:
>http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/videos_cor
r.jhtml?startIndex=13&p=stewart> Then click on the "Bush vs. Bush" link.

>
> Weasel faced
> - self evident
>
> Spoiled rich kid
> - Again, Daddy's reserve position
> - Placements in prestigious schools despite his poor academic record
> - Spent much of his youth drunk

If you consider 'youth' to end at age 43 or 44...

> If you need specific references for any of these points ...they can be provided.
>
> PSI also consider "You bleeding heart F'ing liberal cry baby." as a compliment. Thanks.

--
tanx, Howard

Said you hit Roddy Piper, and didn't get a hassle, Promised your girl filet mignon, then took
her to White Castle! LL Cool J

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
Hey Matt--
I've got a great idea. Since this is a cycling forum, why don't you shut the f*** up and keep your off-topic comments to yourself.
--Doug A.

"Matt Cahill" wrote:
>
> > I think Bush is a stupid, cowardly, lying, weasel faced, spoiled rich kid. He reminds me of every stereotype evil rich kid in every rich man/poor man themed movie that I have ever seen.
> >
> > The man was elected on character issues. This I find ironic, since he hasn't any character. I would vote for weenie waggling Clinton a hundred times over before I would the spot of shame
that now fills the presidency.

there is a wealth of public information available on which to base an assessment of Bush's character.

Stupid
- He appeared ignorant in the election debates...remember taunts like "That's liberal math" when
trying to counter Gore's points on the budget ?
- Not a particularly impressive academic record

Cowardly
- Dodges the draft through Daddy setting up the reserve position
- Fails to follow orders to report to duty under that very same reserve position
- Says "Bring it on" to the Iraqis ...who did...to the tune of hundreds of American soldier's lives.
- Hid in some underground bunker during 9/11.

Lying
- Runs on an anti-nation building plank and then promptly works on a strategy to nation
build in Iraq.

Weasel faced
- self evident

Spoiled rich kid
- Again, Daddy's reserve position
- Placements in prestigious schools despite his poor academic record
- Spent much of his youth drunk
 
Originally posted by la_picker
Hey Matt--
I've got a great idea. Since this is a cycling forum, why don't you shut the f*** up and keep your off-topic comments to yourself.
--Doug A.

I agree unless Bush has a new Madone 5.9 and hidden talents.
I would have to bet on Hillary Clinton. Her thighs look much more powerful.

And further more why do so many people hate winners and try to tear them down. Always looking for hidden agendas. Maybe if Ullrich wins he can be a target for a while. You know all those nice polite cycling racers? Nobody does! Because they don't win. You have to be somewhat of an a-hole to race theTDF. And the best a-hole wins.And I mean that in the nicest way.
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jhuskey wrote:

> I agree unless Bush has a new Madone 5.9 and hidden talents. I would have to bet on Hillary
> Clinton. Her thighs look much more powerful.

Yes but Monica's has a much larger lung capacity due to to all the sucking exercises she does.
 
Originally posted by Donald Munro
jhuskey wrote:

> I agree unless Bush has a new Madone 5.9 and hidden talents. I would have to bet on Hillary
> Clinton. Her thighs look much more powerful.

Yes but Monica's has a much larger lung capacity due to to all the sucking exercises she does.
Click to expand...

Maybe ,but which manufacturer makes a cigar shaped saddle.
Havana seats LTD?Or maybe tampon nuggets. :confused:
 
Ok...enough with the political jibes guys. I know I know...Matt started it....but it's STILL off topic.
--Doug A.

Originally posted by jhuskey
Maybe ,but which manufacturer makes a cigar shaped saddle.
Havana seats LTD?Or maybe tampon nuggets. :confused:
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