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The Reid said:

Following up to sarah

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Look, at UKP7/kg, I'll take as much as I think we can eat :-)

I thought you would riposte about my wine buying! :*)

I wouldn't. 'Tis the season of goodwill and all that. Besides, then we'd
have to decide which of us is kettle and which of us is pot and
precisely how black we are :-)

regards
sarah

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The Reid said:

Following up to sarah

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Quoted message said:

>Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
>of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
>in the same family as some rather nasty plants;

not happened to me but its sap makes your skin hypersensitive to
sunlight, causing burns.

Yup. I've experimented with that in some of its wild relatives. The
numbness is strange, though. I should ask him if he's noticed it.

Just go easier on the vodka.

Haven't got any (as in never had, not none left :-). Just scotch,
brandy, rum, gin and assorted wines, fortified and otherwise.

regards
sarah

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The Reid said:

Following up to sarah

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I've never reacted to carrots or dill -- it's usually people who harvest
or otherwise work with the plants a lot who develop sensitivities.
Hogweed/Wild Parsnip are unusual in the degree and speed of reaction.

all parsnips of course.
I often get umbillifer sap on me on the allotment I should think,
ive had no problem with carrots etc, but then I havent with
parsnip, but then you harvest them in winter. Perhaps i'm
roboallotmenter?

"Terminator <x>: The Allotment Beckons" ?

regards
sarah

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Following up to sarah

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Perhaps i'm

Quoted message said:

roboallotmenter?

"Terminator <x>: The Allotment Beckons" ?

its about time Hugh Grant made a film about allotments, I don't
want a gritty northern school of cinema - "life's hard lass and
t'turnips wont grow" type of thing. More soft focus, flowers and
birds, glamorous plot holders and sowing of seed behind the
compost heap.
"Cabbage patch dolls" ?
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graham said:

I don't recall ever reacting to "Sheep's parsley" as a kid. Until these
posts, I didn't know of these complaints/reactions and the Umbellifera are
such an important source of food, herbs and spices.

As I recall, water parsley is deadly poisonous and hemlock is also one
of the family. Don't try this at home. I wonder if our distant
ancestors had to treat parsnips to detoxify them and gradually bred
the poisons out. Perhaps they were used for "medicinal" properties
before they became ordinary vegetables. But then all sorts of foods
are poisonous if we eat enough, don't prepare them properly or are
unlucky enough to be susceptible. Some beans are well known for
containing arsenic and even potatoes are poisonous if we eat an
unfeasibly large amount. Others may know more.
--
Phil C.

Following up to Phil C.

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and even potatoes are poisonous if we eat an
unfeasibly large amount.

especially as chips! :-)
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The Reid said:

Following up to sarah

Quoted message said:

Perhaps i'm

Quoted message said:

roboallotmenter?

"Terminator <x>: The Allotment Beckons" ?

its about time Hugh Grant made a film about allotments, I don't
want a gritty northern school of cinema - "life's hard lass and
t'turnips wont grow" type of thing. More soft focus, flowers and
birds, glamorous plot holders and sowing of seed behind the
compost heap.
"Cabbage patch dolls" ?

urgh. Not for me. Hugh Grant portrays characters so... ineffectual. How
about something akin to 'Calendar Girls' based on a battle to save the
allotments from an avaricious developer? Just *think* of the
photographic possibilities... M&S ads are nothing by comparison.

regards
sarah

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Think of it as evolution in action.

Following up to sarah

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Cabbage patch dolls" ?

urgh. Not for me. Hugh Grant portrays characters so... ineffectual.

I thought north Americans liked him? OK someone else.

Quoted message said:

How about something akin to 'Calendar Girls' based on a battle to save the
allotments from an avaricious developer?

not quite what I'm looking for.

Quoted message said:

Just *think* of the
photographic possibilities...

I was! How about Penelope Cruz and Nicole Kidman as green lesbian
couple who want to learn to grow their own food, struggle at
first but eventually accept help from old hand whom they slowly
realise they are attracted to, after some inexplicable stuff
about fertility to fool people its art, all three realise a
menage a trois is the way forward and the film ends with lots of
naked rolling about in the crops.
Lets call it "the rakes progress".
I know someone who could play the male lead. Damn, now you know
what I daydream about during all that digging :-)

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M&S ads are nothing by comparison.

M & S? We're up there with Wonderbra.
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Quoted message said:

Following up to sarah

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Cabbage patch dolls" ?

urgh. Not for me. Hugh Grant portrays characters so... ineffectual.

I thought north Americans liked him? OK someone else.

Quoted message said:

How about something akin to 'Calendar Girls' based on a battle to save the
allotments from an avaricious developer?

not quite what I'm looking for.

Quoted message said:

Just *think* of the
photographic possibilities...

I was! How about Penelope Cruz and Nicole Kidman as green lesbian
couple who want to learn to grow their own food, struggle at
first but eventually accept help from old hand whom they slowly
realise they are attracted to, after some inexplicable stuff
about fertility to fool people its art, all three realise a
menage a trois is the way forward and the film ends with lots of
naked rolling about in the crops.
Lets call it "the rakes progress".
I know someone who could play the male lead. Damn, now you know
what I daydream about during all that digging :-)

Saw a dvd last night featuring the Irish actress Flora Montgomery. Could we
include her as a love interest?
(Note the "we"😉.
Graham

graham said:

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Quoted message said:

Following up to sarah

Quoted message said:

> "Cabbage patch dolls" ?

urgh. Not for me. Hugh Grant portrays characters so... ineffectual.

I thought north Americans liked him? OK someone else.

Quoted message said:

How about something akin to 'Calendar Girls' based on a battle to save the
allotments from an avaricious developer?

not quite what I'm looking for.

Quoted message said:

Just *think* of the
photographic possibilities...

I was! How about Penelope Cruz and Nicole Kidman as green lesbian
couple who want to learn to grow their own food, struggle at
first but eventually accept help from old hand whom they slowly
realise they are attracted to, after some inexplicable stuff
about fertility to fool people its art, all three realise a
menage a trois is the way forward and the film ends with lots of
naked rolling about in the crops.
Lets call it "the rakes progress".
I know someone who could play the male lead. Damn, now you know
what I daydream about during all that digging :-)

Saw a dvd last night featuring the Irish actress Flora Montgomery. Could we
include her as a love interest?
(Note the "we"😉.

There won't be any vegetables left after all that rolling about :-)

regards
sarah

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Following up to graham

Quoted message said:

Saw a dvd last night featuring the Irish actress Flora Montgomery. Could we
include her as a love interest?

How much love interest is this film having? OK, she can be the
leads old flame (that means filming some flashbacks) who turns up
to rent the plot next to you, you can write the rest of the sub
plot!

Actually "carry on up the allotment" would have worked.
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Following up to sarah

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was! How about Penelope Cruz and Nicole Kidman as green lesbian
couple who want to learn to grow their own food, struggle at
first but eventually accept help from old hand whom they slowly
realise they are attracted to, after some inexplicable stuff
about fertility to fool people its art, all three realise a
menage a trois is the way forward and the film ends with lots of
naked rolling about in the crops.
Lets call it "the rakes progress".
I know someone who could play the male lead. Damn, now you know
what I daydream about during all that digging :-)

Saw a dvd last night featuring the Irish actress Flora Montgomery. Could we
include her as a love interest?
(Note the "we"😉.

How much love interest is this film having? OK, she can be the
leads old flame (that means filming some flashbacks with me) who
turns up to rent the plot next to you, you can write the rest of
the sub plot which presumably features her taking an interest in
your marrows or something!

Quoted message said:

There won't be any vegetables left after all that rolling about :-)

Better, roll about in the fruit.

"carry on up the allotment" would have worked.
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"carry on up the allotment" would have worked.

or "Dig for Victory"
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Phil C. said:

graham said:

I don't recall ever reacting to "Sheep's parsley" as a kid. Until these
posts, I didn't know of these complaints/reactions and the Umbellifera are
such an important source of food, herbs and spices.

As I recall, water parsley is deadly poisonous and hemlock is also one
of the family. Don't try this at home. I wonder if our distant
ancestors had to treat parsnips to detoxify them and gradually bred
the poisons out. Perhaps they were used for "medicinal" properties
before they became ordinary vegetables. But then all sorts of foods
are poisonous if we eat enough, don't prepare them properly or are
unlucky enough to be susceptible. Some beans are well known for
containing arsenic and even potatoes are poisonous if we eat an
unfeasibly large amount. Others may know more.

I have some books on the topic, and if I spend any longer working on
*that* document I'll be quite, quite mad...

**NOTE: READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. I AM NOT ADVISING ANYONE TO TRY ANY OF
THIS. ANY PLANT CAN BE HARMFUL WHEN INGESTED. Some EXTREMELY POISONOUS
plants (such as Fool's Parsley) can be easily confused with the
following interesting plants**

Launert (Edible and Medicinal Plants of Britain and Northern Europe)
declares Wild Parsnip to be edible: the root (best collected in late
autumn or winter[1], when it's at its sweetest) should be blanched in
boiling salted water to remove its 'sharp flavour', as should the older
leaves. Young leaves and shoots can be added to soups, roots treated as
carrots (after blanching). Both he and de Rougemont (Crops of Britain
and Europe) place Wild Parsnip in the same Genus and spp as cultivated,
although apparently some people put Wild Parsnip in a separate
subspecies. DR says Parsnip has been cultivated since Roman times, but
'superior forms' probably developed after the Middle Ages.

Interestingly, Launert gives only medicinal uses for Wild Carrot (juice
of the root for nervous or physical exhaustion, dropsy and internal
inflammation; must be taken for long periods), freshly grated roots good
against worms in children, dried powdered root to treat diarrhoea in
babi... excuse me a moment: READ THE NOTE AT THE TOP AGAIN! I have in
fact nibbled on roots of wild carrot without ill effect, but not much
pleasure either. I should try some wild parsnip sometime, but I'd want
to mark the plants in high summer to avoid confusion with the really
nasty relatives.

regards
sarah

[1] Makes sense. Winter/early spring is when people were hungriest, too.

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The Reid said:

Following up to The Reid

Quoted message said:

"carry on up the allotment" would have worked.

or "Dig for Victory"

You *have* been daydreaming, haven't you? :-)

I don't dig it, man, I've got a raised bed. Do I have to smirk when I
type that?

regards
sarah

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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:35:53 +0000, [email hidden] (sarah)

Quoted message said:

Phil C. said:

graham said:

I don't recall ever reacting to "Sheep's parsley" as a kid. Until these
posts, I didn't know of these complaints/reactions and the Umbellifera are
such an important source of food, herbs and spices.

As I recall, water parsley is deadly poisonous and hemlock is also one
of the family. Don't try this at home. I wonder if our distant
ancestors had to treat parsnips to detoxify them and gradually bred
the poisons out. Perhaps they were used for "medicinal" properties
before they became ordinary vegetables. But then all sorts of foods
are poisonous if we eat enough, don't prepare them properly or are
unlucky enough to be susceptible. Some beans are well known for
containing arsenic and even potatoes are poisonous if we eat an
unfeasibly large amount. Others may know more.

I have some books on the topic, and if I spend any longer working on
*that* document I'll be quite, quite mad...

**NOTE: READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. I AM NOT ADVISING ANYONE TO TRY ANY OF
THIS. ANY PLANT CAN BE HARMFUL WHEN INGESTED. Some EXTREMELY POISONOUS
plants (such as Fool's Parsley) can be easily confused with the
following interesting plants**

(snip)
I should have written "water parsnip", though wild plants are prone to
a variety of confusing names. I'd tend to treat umbellifera like fungi
- best avoided unless one is really sure. Even hemlock looks much like
the others.

We get no shortage of keck (cow parsley) growing in the lawn. It's a
nuisance but when I mow it, it produces a lovely/horrible (delete as
appropriate) coriander smell.
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Following up to graham

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Saw a dvd last night featuring the Irish actress Flora Montgomery. Could
we
include her as a love interest?

How much love interest is this film having?

I was just trying to balance the lust interest:-)

Graham

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Following up to graham

Quoted message said:

Saw a dvd last night featuring the Irish actress Flora Montgomery. Could
we
include her as a love interest?

How much love interest is this film having?

I was just trying to balance the lust interest:-)

Humph! Typical Man🙂
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Following up to sarah

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I've got a raised bed. Do I have to smirk when I
type that?

its compulsory i'm afraid.
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