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  1. The Reid said:

    Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    Sweetcorn is
    sweet, but I like it with lots of salty butter for contrast.

    that's one I don't like at all. I'm not convinced its even food.

    I won't try to convince you; all the more for meeeeeee! I hope to grow
    it one day, because every hour between plant and table decreases the
    flavour and sweetness.

    When I lost both my upper front milkteeth at the same time I couldn't
    talk without whistling and people laughed at me. My mother cooked my
    favourite meal to cheer my up... yes, sweetcorn. And being
    NorthAmerican, I usually ate mine without benefit of knife and fork. I
    think I burst into tears and ran from the table!

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  2. The Reid said:

    Following up to Peter Ward

    Quoted message said:

    I like fruit with meat, but as a flavouring, sometimes part of a
    stuffing, not as a major component. I quite like a nice, sweet korma.
    Fried onions are quite sweet, but so delicious. As mentioned
    elsewhere, parsnips and sweet potatoes seem to be so overwhelmingly
    sweet to me that they are unpalatable. And, of course, I am
    experimenting with making some puds less sweet.

    You know, the more I think about this, the less logic there seems to
    be.

    LOL, I'm putting sweet veg in my main couse and not eating
    dessert, youre having desserts but no sweet veg! Its just taste,
    isnt it? And calories of course. How about a parsnip dessert?

    I bet there are lots of WWII recipes for it. I find the thought of
    parsnip flavoured dessert rather off-putting (it's such a strong,
    distinctive flavour), but I suppose if it was highly spiced, cinnamon,
    nutmeg, a few raisins... it could be alright.

    Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    in the same family as some rather nasty plants; I just wondered if some
    roots contain a higher concentration of something. Or perhaps it's my
    first food allergy!

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  3. Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that's one I don't like at all. I'm not convinced its even food.

    I won't try to convince you; all the more for meeeeeee! I hope to grow
    it one day, because every hour between plant and table decreases the
    flavour and sweetness.

    its easy enough to grow, foxes go for it though.

    Quoted message said:

    When I lost both my upper front milkteeth at the same time I couldn't
    talk without whistling and people laughed at me. My mother cooked my
    favourite meal to cheer my up... yes, sweetcorn. And being
    NorthAmerican, I usually ate mine without benefit of knife and fork. I
    think I burst into tears and ran from the table!

    all together ahhhhhhhhhh.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  4. Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    in the same family as some rather nasty plants;

    not happened to me but its sap makes your skin hypersensitive to
    sunlight, causing burns.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  5. Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    Only regret is that most of it is still in their freezers until we can
    get the wiring to the garage sorted and put a chest freezer in :-(

    you really *do* like bulk buying, don't you? Is it you can take
    the Canadian out of Canada but you cant take Canada out of the
    Canadian? :-)
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  6. The Reid said:

    Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    Only regret is that most of it is still in their freezers until we can
    get the wiring to the garage sorted and put a chest freezer in :-(

    you really *do* like bulk buying, don't you? Is it you can take
    the Canadian out of Canada but you cant take Canada out of the
    Canadian? :-)

    Look, at UKP7/kg, I'll take as much as I think we can eat :-)

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  7. The Reid said:

    Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that's one I don't like at all. I'm not convinced its even food.

    I won't try to convince you; all the more for meeeeeee! I hope to grow
    it one day, because every hour between plant and table decreases the
    flavour and sweetness.

    its easy enough to grow, foxes go for it though.

    Quoted message said:

    When I lost both my upper front milkteeth at the same time I couldn't
    talk without whistling and people laughed at me. My mother cooked my
    favourite meal to cheer my up... yes, sweetcorn. And being
    NorthAmerican, I usually ate mine without benefit of knife and fork. I
    think I burst into tears and ran from the table!

    all together ahhhhhhhhhh.

    I've just *really* realised all of this has been x-posted to
    rec.food.cooking. But no one's commented, so perhaps we're alone in here
    :-)

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  8. The Reid said:

    Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    in the same family as some rather nasty plants;

    not happened to me but its sap makes your skin hypersensitive to
    sunlight, causing burns.

    Yup. I've experimented with that in some of its wild relatives. The
    numbness is strange, though. I should ask him if he's noticed it.

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  9. sarah said:


    Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    in the same family as some rather nasty plants; I just wondered if some
    roots contain a higher concentration of something. Or perhaps it's my
    first food allergy!

    I can't say I've experienced any numbness but parsnips do contain toxins
    (as lots of veg does), which can cause skin irritation when exposed to
    sunlight and possibly upset stomach.

    They tend to be in the damaged areas so if you peel the parsnip well and
    thoroughly cut out any bruises (if you don't already) it might help.

    Frink

    --
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    See his mind here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/
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    "No sir, I didn't like it!" - Mr Horse

  10. Doctor J. Frink said:
    sarah said:


    Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    in the same family as some rather nasty plants; I just wondered if some
    roots contain a higher concentration of something. Or perhaps it's my
    first food allergy!

    I can't say I've experienced any numbness but parsnips do contain toxins
    (as lots of veg does), which can cause skin irritation when exposed to
    sunlight and possibly upset stomach.

    They tend to be in the damaged areas so if you peel the parsnip well and
    thoroughly cut out any bruises (if you don't already) it might help.

    I certainly peel them, but haven't paid close attention to cutting out
    all the damaged bits. I know about the skin irritation bit; they (and
    many other members of the family) contain a chemical that blocks the
    skin's ability to protect itself from the sun. Depending on the
    sensitivity of your skin you may not see any reaction from quite
    prolonged contact on solidly overcast days, but sunlight leads to a
    remarkable burn -- I tested some wild parsnip on my (inner) arm and it
    raised blisters 12 hours later. I pity the youngsters who used to use
    the stems as peashooters!

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  11. "sarah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doctor J. Frink said:
    sarah said:


    Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    in the same family as some rather nasty plants; I just wondered if some
    roots contain a higher concentration of something. Or perhaps it's my
    first food allergy!

    I can't say I've experienced any numbness but parsnips do contain toxins
    (as lots of veg does), which can cause skin irritation when exposed to
    sunlight and possibly upset stomach.

    They tend to be in the damaged areas so if you peel the parsnip well and
    thoroughly cut out any bruises (if you don't already) it might help.

    I certainly peel them, but haven't paid close attention to cutting out
    all the damaged bits. I know about the skin irritation bit; they (and
    many other members of the family) contain a chemical that blocks the
    skin's ability to protect itself from the sun. Depending on the
    sensitivity of your skin you may not see any reaction from quite
    prolonged contact on solidly overcast days, but sunlight leads to a
    remarkable burn -- I tested some wild parsnip on my (inner) arm and it
    raised blisters 12 hours later. I pity the youngsters who used to use
    the stems as peashooters!


    Is that a feature of all the Umbellifera?
    Graham

  12. graham said:


    "sarah" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I certainly peel them, but haven't paid close attention to cutting out
    all the damaged bits. I know about the skin irritation bit; they (and
    many other members of the family) contain a chemical that blocks the
    skin's ability to protect itself from the sun. Depending on the
    sensitivity of your skin you may not see any reaction from quite
    prolonged contact on solidly overcast days, but sunlight leads to a
    remarkable burn -- I tested some wild parsnip on my (inner) arm and it
    raised blisters 12 hours later. I pity the youngsters who used to use
    the stems as peashooters!


    Is that a feature of all the Umbellifera?


    It's certainly a feature of the Giant Hogweed.

  13. graham said:

    "sarah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doctor J. Frink said:

    On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:35:53 +0000, sarah <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    >of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    >in the same family as some rather nasty plants; I just wondered if some
    >roots contain a higher concentration of something. Or perhaps it's my
    >first food allergy!

    I can't say I've experienced any numbness but parsnips do contain toxins
    (as lots of veg does), which can cause skin irritation when exposed to
    sunlight and possibly upset stomach.

    They tend to be in the damaged areas so if you peel the parsnip well and
    thoroughly cut out any bruises (if you don't already) it might help.

    I certainly peel them, but haven't paid close attention to cutting out
    all the damaged bits. I know about the skin irritation bit; they (and
    many other members of the family) contain a chemical that blocks the
    skin's ability to protect itself from the sun. Depending on the
    sensitivity of your skin you may not see any reaction from quite
    prolonged contact on solidly overcast days, but sunlight leads to a
    remarkable burn -- I tested some wild parsnip on my (inner) arm and it
    raised blisters 12 hours later. I pity the youngsters who used to use
    the stems as peashooters!


    Is that a feature of all the Umbellifera?

    I don't know, but it's possible, perhaps to a lesser extent. The
    compounds involved are psoralens and furanocoumarins. There are records
    of contact dermatitis suffered by people working with carrots, angelica,
    and dill to name some of the more popular plants; others, such as Giant
    Hogweed (_Hieraceum mantegazzianum_, from memory!) are very dangerous. I
    tested the Wild Parsnip to judge whether the results were sufficiently
    severe to have put two lads in hospital with what were diagnosed as
    'chemical burns' on their legs. The answer was most definitely 'Yes',
    and I'd add I have *never* itched so much from anything before (but then
    I don't think I ever encountered Poison Ivy).

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  14. "sarah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    graham said:

    "sarah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Doctor J. Frink <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:35:53 +0000, sarah <[email hidden]>
    > wrote:
    > >
    > >Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or
    > >two
    > >of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know
    > >it's
    > >in the same family as some rather nasty plants; I just wondered if
    > >some
    > >roots contain a higher concentration of something. Or perhaps it's my
    > >first food allergy!
    >
    > I can't say I've experienced any numbness but parsnips do contain
    > toxins
    > (as lots of veg does), which can cause skin irritation when exposed to
    > sunlight and possibly upset stomach.
    >
    > They tend to be in the damaged areas so if you peel the parsnip well
    > and
    > thoroughly cut out any bruises (if you don't already) it might help.

    I certainly peel them, but haven't paid close attention to cutting out
    all the damaged bits. I know about the skin irritation bit; they (and
    many other members of the family) contain a chemical that blocks the
    skin's ability to protect itself from the sun. Depending on the
    sensitivity of your skin you may not see any reaction from quite
    prolonged contact on solidly overcast days, but sunlight leads to a
    remarkable burn -- I tested some wild parsnip on my (inner) arm and it
    raised blisters 12 hours later. I pity the youngsters who used to use
    the stems as peashooters!


    Is that a feature of all the Umbellifera?

    I don't know, but it's possible, perhaps to a lesser extent. The
    compounds involved are psoralens and furanocoumarins. There are records
    of contact dermatitis suffered by people working with carrots, angelica,
    and dill to name some of the more popular plants; others, such as Giant
    Hogweed (_Hieraceum mantegazzianum_, from memory!) are very dangerous. I
    tested the Wild Parsnip to judge whether the results were sufficiently
    severe to have put two lads in hospital with what were diagnosed as
    'chemical burns' on their legs. The answer was most definitely 'Yes',
    and I'd add I have *never* itched so much from anything before (but then
    I don't think I ever encountered Poison Ivy).


    I don't recall ever reacting to "Sheep's parsley" as a kid. Until these
    posts, I didn't know of these complaints/reactions and the Umbellifera are
    such an important source of food, herbs and spices.
    Graham

  15. graham said:

    "sarah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    graham said:

    "sarah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Doctor J. Frink <[email hidden]> wrote:


    [-]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> I can't say I've experienced any numbness but parsnips do contain
    >> toxins (as lots of veg does), which can cause skin irritation when
    >> exposed to sunlight and possibly upset stomach.
    >>
    >> They tend to be in the damaged areas so if you peel the parsnip well
    >> and thoroughly cut out any bruises (if you don't already) it might
    >> help.
    >
    > I certainly peel them, but haven't paid close attention to cutting out
    > all the damaged bits. I know about the skin irritation bit; they (and
    > many other members of the family) contain a chemical that blocks the
    > skin's ability to protect itself from the sun. Depending on the
    > sensitivity of your skin you may not see any reaction from quite
    > prolonged contact on solidly overcast days, but sunlight leads to a
    > remarkable burn -- I tested some wild parsnip on my (inner) arm and it
    > raised blisters 12 hours later. I pity the youngsters who used to use
    > the stems as peashooters!
    >
    Is that a feature of all the Umbellifera?

    I don't know, but it's possible, perhaps to a lesser extent. The
    compounds involved are psoralens and furanocoumarins. There are records
    of contact dermatitis suffered by people working with carrots, angelica,
    and dill to name some of the more popular plants; others, such as Giant
    Hogweed (_Hieraceum mantegazzianum_, from memory!) are very dangerous. I
    tested the Wild Parsnip to judge whether the results were sufficiently
    severe to have put two lads in hospital with what were diagnosed as
    'chemical burns' on their legs. The answer was most definitely 'Yes',
    and I'd add I have *never* itched so much from anything before (but then
    I don't think I ever encountered Poison Ivy).


    I don't recall ever reacting to "Sheep's parsley" as a kid. Until these
    posts, I didn't know of these complaints/reactions and the Umbellifera are
    such an important source of food, herbs and spices.

    I've never reacted to carrots or dill -- it's usually people who harvest
    or otherwise work with the plants a lot who develop sensitivities.
    Hogweed/Wild Parsnip are unusual in the degree and speed of reaction.

    regards
    sarah

    --
    Think of it as evolution in action.

  16. sarah said:
    The Reid said:

    Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    When I lost both my upper front milkteeth at the same time I couldn't
    talk without whistling and people laughed at me. My mother cooked my
    favourite meal to cheer my up... yes, sweetcorn. And being
    NorthAmerican, I usually ate mine without benefit of knife and fork. I
    think I burst into tears and ran from the table!

    all together ahhhhhhhhhh.

    I've just *really* realised all of this has been x-posted to
    rec.food.cooking. But no one's commented, so perhaps we're alone in here
    :-)

    I think you'll find most posters to both groups have also lost milkteeth
    at one point or another in the past. 🙂

    Greg

    --

    That time's long past, but what would I not give
    To see the whorehouse where we used to live.
    No spam: ficus = no(n)

  17. Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    all together ahhhhhhhhhh.

    I've just *really* realised all of this has been x-posted to
    rec.food.cooking. But no one's commented, so perhaps we're alone in here

    they don't seem to be saying that much.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  18. Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Speaking (as it were) of parsnips, does anyone else find that one or two
    of them seem to leave the mouth/tongue/lips slightly numb? I know it's
    in the same family as some rather nasty plants;

    not happened to me but its sap makes your skin hypersensitive to
    sunlight, causing burns.

    Yup. I've experimented with that in some of its wild relatives. The
    numbness is strange, though. I should ask him if he's noticed it.

    Just go easier on the vodka.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  19. Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    Look, at UKP7/kg, I'll take as much as I think we can eat :-)

    I thought you would riposte about my wine buying! :*)
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  20. Following up to sarah

    Quoted message said:

    I've never reacted to carrots or dill -- it's usually people who harvest
    or otherwise work with the plants a lot who develop sensitivities.
    Hogweed/Wild Parsnip are unusual in the degree and speed of reaction.

    all parsnips of course.
    I often get umbillifer sap on me on the allotment I should think,
    ive had no problem with carrots etc, but then I havent with
    parsnip, but then you harvest them in winter. Perhaps i'm
    roboallotmenter?
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

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