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  1. Sleeved, non-machined double walled , eyelets and sockets and cheap
    cheap cheap.

    I bought two of these from http://www.bicyclemagic.com/products.php?plid=m6b115s171p2607
    on Friday. 20 quid vs 34 for a Mavic Open Pro silver.

    Sockets appear to be zinc passivated and the eyelets 'shiny
    plated' (nickel? stainless maybe? are sockets and eyelets 2-pieces?)

    Seem pretty lightly silver anodized: doesn't take much pressure on my
    multimeter probes to break through (I can't break it on a red-anodized
    Mavic CXP 33, or a Rigida black rim, by way of comparrison). Which
    reminds me Mr. Brandt: what were your conclusions on tyre blow-off?

    The brake tracks are not parallel: tapers from 20.5mm on the inner
    side to 20mm. The 'clinch' appears pretty substantial they measure
    13.2 across the dimension that the ARAYA below measures 14.2.

    Weight about 510g on my kitchen scales, which is reasonably hefty I
    guess, but I suppose they might support pretty high tensions.

    Tempted to take the polishing wheel to the inside surface to make them
    all pretty, but I don't want to remove the plating from the eyelets
    (if they're plated)

    http://www.drc.it/speed.htm

    Don't know if or where the ARAYA rim is available.
    http://www.araya-kk.co.jp/rim/catalog/17_20a-r.htm

  2. Thomas Hood said:

    Sleeved, non-machined double walled , eyelets and sockets and cheap
    cheap cheap.

    Quoted message said:

    I bought two of these from

    http://www.bicyclemagic.com/products.php?plid=m6b115s171p2607
    http://www.drc.it/speed.htm

    Quoted message said:

    on Friday. 20 quid vs 34 for a Mavic Open Pro silver.

    Quoted message said:

    Sockets appear to be zinc passivated and the eyelets 'shiny plated'
    (nickel? stainless maybe? are sockets and eyelets 2-pieces?)

    Quoted message said:

    Seem pretty lightly silver anodized: doesn't take much pressure on
    my multimeter probes to break through (I can't break it on a
    red-anodized Mavic CXP 33, or a Rigida black rim, by way of
    comparison).

    These look like good rims to me but how do I get them to a US
    distributor?

    Quoted message said:

    Which reminds me Mr. Brandt: what were your conclusions on tyre
    blow-off?

    The project is in suspense. First results may have shown that the
    Continental tires I used are less likely to blow off than others that
    have done so on my bicycle. I was unable to cause a blow-off on a
    steep road that is known to cause such failures.

    Quoted message said:

    The brake tracks are not parallel: tapers from 20.5mm on the inner
    side to 20mm. The 'clinch' appears pretty substantial they measure
    13.2 across the dimension that the ARAYA below measures 14.2.

    To me, they look good enough from the cross section pictures.

    Quoted message said:

    Weight about 510g on my kitchen scales, which is reasonably hefty I
    guess, but I suppose they might support pretty high tensions.

    Quoted message said:

    Tempted to take the polishing wheel to the inside surface to make them
    all pretty, but I don't want to remove the plating from the eyelets
    (if they're plated)

    I would leave them as is.

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.drc.it/speed.htm

    Quoted message said:

    Don't know if or where the ARAYA rim is available.

    http://www.araya-kk.co.jp/rim/catalog/17_20a-r.htm

    Jobst Brandt

  3. Quoted message said:
    Thomas Hood said:

    Sleeved, non-machined double walled , eyelets and sockets and cheap
    cheap cheap.

    Quoted message said:

    I bought two of these from

    http://www.bicyclemagic.com/products.php?plid=m6b115s171p2607
    http://www.drc.it/speed.htm

    Quoted message said:

    on Friday. 20 quid vs 34 for a Mavic Open Pro silver.

    Quoted message said:

    Sockets appear to be zinc passivated and the eyelets 'shiny plated'
    (nickel? stainless maybe? are sockets and eyelets 2-pieces?)

    Quoted message said:

    Seem pretty lightly silver anodized: doesn't take much pressure on
    my multimeter probes to break through (I can't break it on a
    red-anodized Mavic CXP 33, or a Rigida black rim, by way of
    comparison).

    These look like good rims to me but how do I get them to a US
    distributor?

    Route your next trip through the UKofGBandNI and pick up what you need
    before the return flight.

  4. Thomas Hood said:

    Sleeved, non-machined double walled , eyelets and sockets and cheap
    cheap cheap.

    I bought two of these fromhttp://www.bicyclemagic.com/products.php?plid=m6b115s171p2607
    on Friday. 20 quid vs 34 for a Mavic Open Pro silver.

    Sockets appear to be zinc passivated and the eyelets 'shiny
    plated' (nickel? stainless maybe? are sockets and eyelets 2-pieces?)

    Seem pretty lightly silver anodized: doesn't take much pressure on my
    multimeter probes to break through (I can't break it on a red-anodized
    Mavic CXP 33, or a Rigida black rim, by way of comparrison). Which
    reminds me Mr. Brandt: what were your conclusions on tyre blow-off?

    The brake tracks are not parallel: tapers from 20.5mm on the inner
    side to 20mm. The 'clinch' appears pretty substantial they measure
    13.2 across the dimension that the ARAYA below measures 14.2.

    Weight about 510g on my kitchen scales, which is reasonably hefty I
    guess, but I suppose they might support pretty high tensions.

    Tempted to take the polishing wheel to the inside surface to make them
    all pretty, but I don't want to remove the plating from the eyelets
    (if they're plated)

    http://www.drc.it/speed.htm

    Don't know if or where the ARAYA rim is available.http://www.araya-kk.co.jp/rim/catalog/17_20a-r.htm

    The Araya rim you linked to is not a 700c rim. Apparently it is 24".
    That would limit the customer base right there.

  5. Thomas Hood said:

    Sleeved, non-machined double walled , eyelets and sockets and cheap
    cheap cheap.

    I bought two of these from http://www.bicyclemagic.com/products.php?plid=m6b115s171p2607


    <snip>

    "Very similar to the original Mavic MA2 but better."

    mavic already make a rim better than the ma2 - it's called the open pro.

  6. Thomas Hood said:

    Sleeved, non-machined double walled , eyelets and sockets and cheap
    cheap cheap.

    I bought two of these from http://www.bicyclemagic.com/products.php?plid=m6b115s171p2607
    on Friday. 20 quid vs 34 for a Mavic Open Pro silver.

    I take it you haven't used them yet. Let us know how they hold up.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    "Business!" cried the Ghost. "Mankind was my business. The common
    welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and
    benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but
    a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!" --Dickens,

  7. damyth said:
    Thomas Hood said:

    Sleeved, non-machined double walled , eyelets and sockets and cheap
    cheap cheap.

    Quoted message said:

    I bought two of these fromhttp://www.bicyclemagic.com/products.php?plid=m6b115s171p2607
    on Friday. 20 quid vs 34 for a Mavic Open Pro silver.

    Quoted message said:

    Sockets appear to be zinc passivated and the eyelets 'shiny
    plated' (nickel? stainless maybe? are sockets and eyelets 2-pieces?)

    Quoted message said:

    Seem pretty lightly silver anodized: doesn't take much pressure on my
    multimeter probes to break through (I can't break it on a red-anodized
    Mavic CXP 33, or a Rigida black rim, by way of comparrison). Which
    reminds me Mr. Brandt: what were your conclusions on tyre blow-off?

    Quoted message said:

    The brake tracks are not parallel: tapers from 20.5mm on the inner
    side to 20mm. The 'clinch' appears pretty substantial they measure
    13.2 across the dimension that the ARAYA below measures 14.2.

    Quoted message said:

    Weight about 510g on my kitchen scales, which is reasonably hefty I
    guess, but I suppose they might support pretty high tensions.

    Quoted message said:

    Tempted to take the polishing wheel to the inside surface to make them
    all pretty, but I don't want to remove the plating from the eyelets
    (if they're plated)

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.drc.it/speed.htm

    Quoted message said:

    Don't know if or where the ARAYA rim is available.http://www.araya-kk.co.jp/rim/catalog/17_20a-r.htm

    The Araya rim you linked to is not a 700c rim. Apparently it is 24".
    That would limit the customer base right there.- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    duh.

    Another one, irratatingly available either machined, anodized, with
    sockets and eyelets, or unmachined, polished with only eyelets.

    http://www.rigida.com/eng/produits/race/chrina.html

    Tom

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