tricks!

Capitalization.

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haha!
sorry...

are you new?
if you want a basic trick to learn, try wheelwalking.
go to www.unicycletips.com for a lot of tutorials on tricks.

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flips or spins, guarenteed crowd pleasers.

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abbabibble, i am not new and i am not going to fall for that

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not going to fall for what?

i haven't seen you around before, so i assumed you were new.

crankflips or unispins, like klownlife said, are definate crowd
pleasers.

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ok, whatever, forget it. anyway, who thinks flpis are easier, and who
thinks spins are easier?

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i vote for spins being easier.

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Spins are way easier than learning flips, even though flips are starting
to be the main trick of street.

KH.

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natiag said:

i decided that i am going to start to learn tricks today! does anyone
have a suggestion of what to learn first??

You learn skills, not tricks. Skills are what you learn. Tricks are
what you do to impress. 😉

Take a look at the skills in the 'USA Skill Levels'
(http://www.unicycling.org/unicycling/skills/skills.html). That should
give you some ideas and a general judge of order of difficulty.

Riding and idling one footed is a good skill. You can add variations
like riding with the foot extended out front (like you're doing a high
kick) instead of on the frame. Or idling with one leg crossed over the
other.

Wheel walking skills are another.

Spins are another.

Jump rope is another (more of a trick than a skill).

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One-footed riding and backwards riding are good skills to learn first,
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john_childs said:

You learn skills, not tricks. Skills are what you learn. Tricks are
what you do to impress.

Thanks for clearing that up for them, I quietly get annoyed when
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One-footed riding and backwards riding are good skills to learn first,
just because they're the basis of tons of other skills.

then learn wheel walking, one foot idling and uni spins.

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Well actually I would beg to differ. Plain hopping up obstacles looks
hard, impresses a lot and is a lot less painful to master than spins or
flips.

Try learning a rolling jump mount if you want to attract some attention
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john_childs said:

You learn skills, not tricks. Skills are what you learn. Tricks are what
you do to impress. 😉

Riding and idling one footed is a good skill. You can add variations
like riding with the foot extended out front (like you're doing a high
kick) instead of on the frame. Or idling with one leg crossed over the
other.

I'm somewhat fuzzy when it comes to differentiating between a trick and
a skill. Time to don my full-face helmet, as not everyone will agree
with what I'm about to say.

At first I thought that mister childs had the same opinions of tricks
vs skills that I had, but then he goes on to say that "riding and
idling one footed" is a "skill".

In my book a "skill" is a technique which gives you the ability to get
your unicycle over terrain or obstacles or dealing with unexpected
situations without a UPD. For instance, hopping is a skill because you
can get up steps etc. Idling is a skill because you may need to stop
briefly at some point, as is riding backwards.

A "trick" is something which looks impressive but isn't necessarily
useful. I really do question why john_childs puts one-footed riding
into the "skill" pigeonhole, how exactly does one footed riding help
when it comes to riding in general situations? It's a little more
unstable and you spread your arms out, and somehow I doubt you'd be
able to do it on rough terrain.

Until recently, the pinnacle of my definition of a "trick" was a
unispin. Sure it does look impressive, but otherwise isn't really
useful. Defect has tens of clips of people doing unispins whilst
jumping on, over and off obstacles. Doing that with the unicycle
straight is good enough in itself; adding a unispin seems harder and
yet at the end of the day still gets you over obstacles the same way.
In other words, the same obstacle clearance ability as just hopping
over it. So why bother unispinning?

At the Dartmoor muni weekend, 'Paul Royle did a unispin off-road on a
29er' (http://flippet.fotopic.net/p29823633.html). Why? Just rolling
over the terrain to get over it would have been fine for me.

The most pointless trick I know is the crankflip; (as I understand it)
you rolling-hop the uni forwards whilst jumping, kicking the pedals so
they spin round and then land back on them. Again I've seen many videos
of people jumping on, over and off stuff whilst crankflipping. You've
put in all that time and effort into hopping and jumping over stuff, so
why make it even harder by vastly increasing the risk of being
pedal-whacked in the shins and then missing the pedals for the landing
with resulting injury?

A couple of tricks are intermediate towards learning skills. Such as
riding with stomach on the seat, it looks ridiculous and at first
pointless. But from there you "graduate" to seat-out riding, then
seat-out hopping, then finally to the skill of jumping seat-out onto
ever higher stuff.

Another example is wheel-walking; again not much point apart from
showing off, but then comes one-footed wheel-walking and then the grand
skill of gliding downhill at speed giving your feet a rest. In a way.

Does anyone else think that many tricks are just for showing off? Or am
I missing the point?

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gkmac said:

I'm somewhat fuzzy when it comes to differentiating between a trick and
a skill. Time to don my full-face helmet, as not everyone will agree
with what I'm about to say.

At first I thought that mister childs had the same opinions of tricks
vs skills that I had, but then he goes on to say that "riding and
idling one footed" is a "skill".

In my book a "skill" is a technique which gives you the ability to get
your unicycle over terrain or obstacles or dealing with unexpected
situations without a UPD. For instance, hopping is a skill because you
can get up steps etc. Idling is a skill because you may need to stop
briefly at some point, as is riding backwards.

A "trick" is something which looks impressive but isn't necessarily
useful. I really do question why john_childs puts one-footed riding
into the "skill" pigeonhole, how exactly does one footed riding help
when it comes to riding in general situations? It's a little more
unstable and you spread your arms out, and somehow I doubt you'd be
able to do it on rough terrain.

http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
:pUntil recently, the pinnacle of my definition of a "trick" was a
unispin. Sure it does look impressive, but otherwise isn't really
useful. Defect has tens of clips of people doing unispins whilst
jumping on, over and off obstacles. Doing that with the unicycle
straight is good enough in itself; adding a unispin seems harder and
yet at the end of the day still gets you over obstacles the same way.
In other words, the same obstacle clearance ability as just hopping
over it. So why bother
unispinning?http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
:p

At the Dartmoor muni weekend, 'Paul Royle did a unispin off-road on a
29er' (http://flippet.fotopic.net/p29823633.html). Why? Just rolling
over the terrain to get over it would have been fine for me.

The most pointless trick I know is the crankflip; (as I understand it)
you rolling-hop the uni forwards whilst jumping, kicking the pedals so
they spin round and then land back on them. Again I've seen many videos
of people jumping on, over and off stuff whilst crankflipping. You've
put in all that time and effort into hopping and jumping over stuff, so
why make it even harder by vastly increasing the risk of being
pedal-whacked in the shins and then missing the pedals for the landing
with resulting injury?

http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
:pA couple of tricks are intermediate towards learning skills. Such as
riding with stomach on the seat, it looks ridiculous and at first
pointless. But from there you "graduate" to seat-out riding, then
seat-out hopping, then finally to the skill of jumping seat-out onto
ever higher
stuff.http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
:p

Another example is wheel-walking; again not much point apart from
showing off, but then comes one-footed wheel-walking and then the grand
skill of gliding downhill at speed giving your feet a rest. In a way.

Does anyone else think that many tricks are just for showing off? Or am
I missing the point?

I am going to agree with all of what gk said, exept for the sections
that are marked at the beginning and end with a
http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif
:p. True, unispins, crankflips, and the like are pointless, but if
they did not exist, i probably wouldnt be a rider right now (its a long
story). I have tried doing one footed riding, and i find that its not
very fun, but ive also tried unispins and crankflips, and found them
lots of fun. For me its all about enjoying what im doing.

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I think overall, you're missing the point.
Firstly, surely the main, if not the only reason we unicycle is for
pleasure. You talk about jumping and trials uni like it has any other
point than to please the rider or impress others. So "the point" of
flipping, spinning etc. is to have fun. If we find a jump too easy, we
add a spin or a flip to amuse ourselves as doing the same thing over
and over can be boring.
It also depend on the style of rider. If I choose to ride street then
what seperates street from trials...the skills/tricks added in.
To conclude, the whole point of doing anything is to survive or make
life abit more interesting until it's all over. Surely you don't
begrudge us street riders alittle spin or flip to brighten up our
lifes?

Jas

P.S. You call one foot riding a trick and not a skill, but riders are
encouraged to learn one foot riding or idle to progress to one foot
wheel walk or glide. One foot riding is often the common skill used to
transfer into glide or coast. Under your criteria, does this now become
a skill?

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gkmac said:

I'm somewhat fuzzy when it comes to differentiating between a trick and
a skill. Time to don my full-face helmet, as not everyone will agree
with what I'm about to say.

At first I thought that mister childs had the same opinions of tricks
vs skills that I had, but then he goes on to say that "riding and
idling one footed" is a "skill".

In my book a "skill" is a technique which gives you the ability to get
your unicycle over terrain or obstacles or dealing with unexpected
situations without a UPD. For instance, hopping is a skill because you
can get up steps etc. Idling is a skill because you may need to stop
briefly at some point, as is riding backwards.

A "trick" is something which looks impressive but isn't necessarily
useful. I really do question why john_childs puts one-footed riding
into the "skill" pigeonhole, how exactly does one footed riding help
when it comes to riding in general situations? It's a little more
unstable and you spread your arms out, and somehow I doubt you'd be
able to do it on rough terrain.

:pUntil recently, the pinnacle of my definition of a "trick" was a
unispin. Sure it does look impressive, but otherwise isn't really
useful. Defect has tens of clips of people doing unispins whilst
jumping on, over and off obstacles. Doing that with the unicycle
straight is good enough in itself; adding a unispin seems harder and
yet at the end of the day still gets you over obstacles the same way.
In other words, the same obstacle clearance ability as just hopping
over it. So why bother unispinning?
:p

At the Dartmoor muni weekend, 'Paul Royle did a unispin off-road on a
29er' (http://flippet.fotopic.net/p29823633.html). Why? Just rolling
over the terrain to get over it would have been fine for me.

:pThe most pointless trick I know is the crankflip; (as I understand
it) you rolling-hop the uni forwards whilst jumping, kicking the pedals
so they spin round and then land back on them. Again I've seen many
videos of people jumping on, over and off stuff whilst crankflipping.
You've put in all that time and effort into hopping and jumping over
stuff, so why make it even harder by vastly increasing the risk of
being pedal-whacked in the shins and then missing the pedals for the
landing with resulting injury?
:p

A couple of tricks are intermediate towards learning skills. Such as
riding with stomach on the seat, it looks ridiculous and at first
pointless. But from there you "graduate" to seat-out riding, then
seat-out hopping, then finally to the skill of jumping seat-out onto
ever higher stuff.

Another example is wheel-walking; again not much point apart from
showing off, but then comes one-footed wheel-walking and then the grand
skill of gliding downhill at speed giving your feet a rest. In a way.

Does anyone else think that many tricks are just for showing off? Or am
I missing the point?

I am going to agree with all of what gk said, exept for the sections
that are marked at the beginning and end with a
:p. True, unispins, crankflips, and the like are pointless, but if
they did not exist, i probably wouldnt be a rider right now (its a long
story). I have tried doing one footed riding, and i find that its not
very fun, but ive also tried unispins and crankflips, and found them
lots of fun. For me its all about enjoying what im doing.

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Klownlife, i miss understood you. do you think i am missing the point or
do u think gk is missing the point. please clarify.

thanks!

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I directed that post I gk, I didnt feel the need to address him as I
thought it would be the first post after his. Obviously, you beat me to
it.

Jas

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