Treasures found while biking

(Steve McDonald) said:

No idea who/what Redd Kross is------

From Wikipedia:

Redd Kross, an alternative rock/garage rock/power pop/cover version
band from Hawthorne, California had their roots in 1978 in a band
called The Tourists begun by Jeff and Steve McDonald while the
brothers were still in middle school.

Fairly well known band from the west coast punk scene back in the day.

Steve McDonald wondered:

Quoted message said:

Who is Mickey Hart? There is a disk that bears his name called
"Planet Drum", that sounds spectacular on my 7.1 system.

Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzmann handled percussion/drumming for a
band called the Grateful Dead... perhaps you've heard of them.
:o)
<http://www.mickeyhart.net/Pages/mh.html>

So there you have it,
Greg

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Steve McDonald said:

One big treasure came along a few days ago. A
zipper case with 215 audio CDs was lying on the edge of a busy road.

<SNIP>

Quoted message said:

listen to them while riding. If the owner doesn't materialize within a
reasonable time, I'll have about 100 Rap and Hip-hop disks to give away.

"Finders, keepers" may be the law on the elementary school playground,
but it is not the law anywhere else that I know of. At retail, those CD's
probably cost the owner somewhere between two and three thousand dollars.
Take them to the police department. If they're not claimed you'll get 'em
back.
But as it is, you're committing larceny.

Bill

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Quoted message said:

Steve McDonald said:

One big treasure came along a few days ago. A
zipper case with 215 audio CDs was lying on the edge of a busy road.

<SNIP>

Quoted message said:

listen to them while riding. If the owner doesn't materialize within a
reasonable time, I'll have about 100 Rap and Hip-hop disks to give away.

"Finders, keepers" may be the law on the elementary school playground,
but it is not the law anywhere else that I know of. At retail, those CD's
probably cost the owner somewhere between two and three thousand dollars.
Take them to the police department. If they're not claimed you'll get 'em
back.
But as it is, you're committing larceny.

Bill

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This brings up an interesting question. Assuming you find something,
how much effort and money are you supposed to invest in reuniting the
item with the owner?

Let's say I'm in the bookstore and I find a $20 bill on the floor of the
men's room. I'd pocket it in a heartbeat. A fool and his money...

Let's say I'm walking in the park and find a suitcase filled with
clothes and personal items that a person might take while on a trip. Am
I required to turn it in to the police?

Or, say I'm in a parking lot and I find a perfectly good BMW 700 series
sedan with the keys in the ignition! Is it really a crime if I hop in
and drive off?

Okay, that last one was a joke, but my point is - I think you're
entitled to the item in some cases, and in other cases you aren't.

-Bill H.

Bill Henry said:

This brings up an interesting question. Assuming you find something,
how much effort and money are you supposed to invest in reuniting the
item with the owner?

Perhaps it's directly proportional to the amount of integrity you have.

Rich

Rich said:

Bill Henry said:

This brings up an interesting question. Assuming you find something,
how much effort and money are you supposed to invest in reuniting the
item with the owner?

Perhaps it's directly proportional to the amount of integrity you have.

Rich

So the law is not involved? That's what the post to which I was
replying indicated.

-Bill H.

I submit that on or about Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:10:09 -0500, the person
known to the court as Bill Henry <[email hidden]> made a
statement (<[email hidden]> in Your Honour's bundle) to
the following effect:

Quoted message said:

This brings up an interesting question. Assuming you find something,
how much effort and money are you supposed to invest in reuniting the
item with the owner?

I guess it's going to depend on your jurisdiction, but the word
"reasonable" is likely to figure in there, so in the end it's always
going to be a judgment call.

The usual suggestion - take it to the Dibbles and let them deal with
it - would generally be accepted as discharging your obligations.

Guy
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Bill Henry said:

Quoted message said:

Perhaps it's directly proportional to the amount of integrity you have.

So the law is not involved?

If your integrity slips below a certain point the law may get involved.

My guess is "finders keepers" is not the law. I'm not a lawyer, nor do
I play one on TV, but I have watched Judge Judy on numerous ocasions. I
think the deal usually is a person must make a "reasonable" effort to
find the owner. What's reasonable is probably dependent on the value of
the item found. If you find a dime, it's probably reasonable to just
look around to see if someone's nearby that may have dropped it. If
it's a bicycle (bike content) or a somewhat extensive case of CDs, then
perhaps placing an Ad in the Paper's "lost and found" section (I think
they still have them) would fit the bill. Or you could probably turn
them over to the police.

Rich

At retail, those CD's

Quoted message said:

probably cost the owner somewhere between two and three thousand dollars.
Take them to the police department. If they're not claimed you'll get 'em
back.
But as it is, you're committing larceny.

"There are about 20 CDs in the bunch that are unlabeled-"

Or in posession of stolen property.

Methuselah said:

"There are about 20 CDs in the bunch that are unlabeled-"

Or in posession of stolen property.

Does not compute. Even if it's an illegitamately copied version [1].
At worst, it's a case of trivial copyright infringement. Which is
*not* theft, and is a civil not criminal matter. [3]

[1] Which is not necessarily true or even likely. [2]
[2] A lot of people make backup copies of their music to listen to
in the car for exactly this sort of reason. If it gets lost or
stolen, they haven't lost their original and can just make another
copy.
[3] Not that anyone should really care if some RIAA member has to cut
back on his coke and prostitute budget. Because the money sure isn't
going to the artists.

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