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  1. Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
    week and goals.

    cheers,
    --
    David (in Hamilton, ON)
    www.allfalldown.org
    www.absolutelyaccurate.com

  2. Recovery week from Baldy Peaks 50k…(run Saturday).

    Next race, Malibu Bulldog 50k, Aug 28. 6k of climb, average elev only
    2,000'.

    Sun: 0 very sore. Walking down stairs is ridiculous.
    Mon: 6 mile hike. Quads are tender on downhills, but much better than
    yesterday..
    Tue: 6 miles hike, with about 20 min jogging. Not as sore, but feel it on
    downhills.
    Wed: 8 in 1:15, jogged about an hour of that. Still a bit sore on
    downhills, felt sluggish.
    Thu: 12 miles, 2500’ of climb. Lake ave to Echo Mountain in 34:07 @ 137
    hr. No soreness. Still a bit slow.
    Fri: 7 miles, 1 hour, 800’ of climb, no soreness
    Sat: 18 miles, ran 30 minutes @ 140 HR, then 20 minutes @ 150 HR with a
    faster runner. Rest of run easy.

    Total: 57

  3. "Dan Stumpus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Recovery week from Baldy Peaks 50k.(run Saturday).

    Next race, Malibu Bulldog 50k, Aug 28. 6k of climb, average elev only
    2,000'.

    Sun: 0 very sore. Walking down stairs is ridiculous.
    Mon: 6 mile hike. Quads are tender on downhills, but much better


    than

    Quoted message said:

    yesterday..
    Tue: 6 miles hike, with about 20 min jogging. Not as sore, but feel


    it on

    Quoted message said:

    downhills.
    Wed: 8 in 1:15, jogged about an hour of that. Still a bit sore on
    downhills, felt sluggish.
    Thu: 12 miles, 2500' of climb. Lake ave to Echo Mountain in 34:07 @


    137

    Quoted message said:

    hr. No soreness. Still a bit slow.
    Fri: 7 miles, 1 hour, 800' of climb, no soreness
    Sat: 18 miles, ran 30 minutes @ 140 HR, then 20 minutes @ 150 HR with


    a

    Quoted message said:

    faster runner. Rest of run easy.

    Total: 57

    You really know how to take it easy. 🙂

    -DF

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  5. Goals: October marathon

    Mon: dnr
    Tue: 8 miles
    Wed: 8 miles incl. 10x300m w/200m recovery
    Thurs: 8 miles
    Fri: 8 miles
    Sat: 10 miles
    Sun: rest

    Total: 42 miles

    --
    Colm

    "SwStudio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    : Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
    : week and goals.

  6. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    98

    98 miles and he still have the energy to get lucky - what a man!

    [ I snipped the monolog]

    -DougF

  7. Quoted message said:

    Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
    week and goals.

    Mon rest
    Tue 8.0
    Wed 13.5
    Thu 6.1
    Fri 12.0
    Sat 5.0
    Sun 16.1 w/ 12 mi @ marathon effort
    -------------------------------------
    Week 61
    Year 1,361

    Training:
    Week 14 of 24-week marathon training program. Week 4 of 6-week lactate
    threshold phase.

    Shortly after last week's 18-miler I had a pain from my butt down to
    behind one knee. Every indication is that this from my sciatic nerve. It
    seems to have subsided and hopefully won't hinder the next 8 weeks of
    marathon training, which will be in the 55 to 63 MPW range.

    Sunday's long run was with the last 12 miles at marathon effort. I didn't
    run it at marathon pace, rather at marathon effort, or 76 to 85% HRR
    (142-154 for me). Or at least what I think will be marathon effort based
    on heart rate. Running it at marathon pace would have been way too
    difficult, considering the hills, heat, and humidity. This is not a big
    confidence building workout, but like I've been told by Donovan, "Your
    speed really is there, you just can't see it because of the [censored]
    training conditions."

    Something I need to work on: I seem to have a problem when going up hills
    and trying to maintain effort near the crest and then downhill. As I
    approach the crest I've slowed down a good bit in order to maintain
    effort. Then I tend to ease up too much as the hill levels off so that my
    heart rate goes too low. By the time I start going downhill, I have to
    rapidly increase my pace or my HR will go even lower. This tends to
    happen more on long runs as my mind starts to wander. Subconsciously I
    can slow down, but I have to think about speeding up.

    Racing Goals:

    8/21/04 - Jim Herrin Memorial Stampede 10k, Warner Robins, GA
    Goal - sub 43:00

    9/18/04 - ATC Singleton 10-mile, Stone Mountain, GA
    Goal - 1:12

    10/10/04 - LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. (Boston qualifier)
    Goal - sub 3:30

    Have a great week rec.runners.

    Phil M.

    --
    If you can empty your own boat
    Crossing the river of the world,
    No one will oppose you,
    No one will seek to harm you. -Chuang Tzu

  8. goals: adjust to big schedule change (new job), bounce back from
    very-slight injury (sore peroneus longus) and continue with marathon
    training. Upcoming races: 5K Aug 13; 400m & 800m track races Aug 17;
    15K Sept 4; 20K Sept 19; marathon Oct 10.

    M: 10mi (8:56)
    T: AM 4mi AM (9:22) / PM 3.125mi, cut short my track workout after
    3x200 due to sore leg
    W: AM 6.28mi (9:14) still sore / PM 4mi on treadmill, could have been
    better
    R: AM 4.33mi (9:02) a little better / PM 4mi on elliptical trainer
    (doesn't count as running)
    F: AM 6.75 (9:10), sore but bearable / PM 6mi on tm, better
    Sa: 9.22mi (8:41), better still
    Su: 21.34mi (8:17)

    total: 75.045 miles running, 4 miles elliptical

    This week I had some grief along the side of my lower leg and under
    the arch of the foot. I have no idea what I did to cause it (probably
    just ran a lot), but I treated with ice, advil, light stretching, and
    just easy running, and it seems to be getting better. Knock wood.

    good week all

    Karen

  9. Monday 3.5 easy 6 X 100 strides
    Tuesday 11.00 total - 6.5 at noon w 3 X 2000 on the trails in a soaking
    rain, 4.5 at night
    Wed 9.00 total 6 in the am w 6X 100 strides 3.5 easy at lunch
    Thursday 5.5 w 2 X 9min @ 10k pace, 15 mile bike ride pm
    Friday off
    Saturday 5.5 including 5k race @20:46
    Sunday 12.5
    Totals: 47 running 15 biking

    Goals:
    Get back down to optimal racing weight (-175) in the next week, Down to
    176-179 range.
    Summer or early fall: get 5k time back down to sub 20:30
    Fall set new 1 mile, 5k, 10k, 15k and 1/2 Marathon prs and run a Marathon PR
    and BQ.

    Current PRs on certified courses:
    1 mile: 6:06 Colonie track meet summer 2004
    5k: 20:30 Watervliet Sept 2002 (flat course)
    10k: 43:14 Master's April 2003 (hilly course)
    15k: 67:45 Stockadeathon (moderately hilly course last 5k)
    1/2: 1:34:30 Oleksak (hilly first 4 miles)
    Marathon 3:27:44 Tybee Island (flat and fast)

    "SwStudio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
    week and goals.

    cheers,
    --
    David (in Hamilton, ON)
    www.allfalldown.org
    www.absolutelyaccurate.com

  10. Phil M. said:


    Something I need to work on: I seem to have a problem when going up hills
    and trying to maintain effort near the crest and then downhill. As I
    approach the crest I've slowed down a good bit in order to maintain
    effort. Then I tend to ease up too much as the hill levels off so that my
    heart rate goes too low. By the time I start going downhill, I have to
    rapidly increase my pace or my HR will go even lower. This tends to
    happen more on long runs as my mind starts to wander. Subconsciously I
    can slow down, but I have to think about speeding up.

    Just a thought. Concentrate on effort so your body runs by effort and
    not pace with no thought.

    What I do to help me learn is whenever I transition to a new segment of
    trail - forest to field, up to down, straight to twisty, wide to narrow,
    or whatever - I double check my effort level (mentally and with hrm if I
    have it). I had found some sections of flat trail where I was
    unconsciously slacking off (joys of hrm logs) and realized I was losing
    concentration as I transitioned from harder to easier section of trail
    or approaching road (not really sure which). On trails, I find I still
    have to pay attention enough to what I'm doing that I'm never completely
    zoned out, but enough of it is 2nd nature now that I can trot along at
    planned effort looking at scenery without finding myself gasping or on a
    runaway roller coaster downhill. Not sure if that helps or not.

    Dot

  11. Goals: Get my 5k time back under 17:00 and 1500m time under 4:20 by July 2005

    Su: DNR
    M: DNR
    Tu: DNR
    W: DNR
    Th: 3 miles 23:45
    F: 3 miles 23:45
    Sa: 3 miles 22:54

    Ed

  12. SwStudio said:

    Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
    week and goals.

    The no stopwatch experiment continues. OK, I used a stopwatch once,
    but I only looked at it twice during the run, and I was running with
    another guy, and chatting the whole way.

    Lots of LT work this week. No watch to avoid time pressure -- in summer,
    tempo runs are always slow. I just maintain a good effort. These are done as
    fartlek runs, surges of 1-2 miles in the middle of a longer run. The less
    structured training is much less stressful mentally, and should provide the
    benefits I'm shooting for (solid quality endurance-oriented tempo training)

    M rest
    T 5 miles jog on the track
    8 miles
    500m reps with training group. No stopwatch, just focused on running.
    Seemed to go well.
    W 10 miles: Fartlek run on track. Included a total of 20 laps or so at
    tempo effort.
    T 6 miles including 2xmile at tempo effort
    5 miles
    7 miles on mill including 2 at 6:00 pace
    F 10.3 easy
    S 13.7 (with a stopwatch. Ran slowly anyway)
    S 4.3

    Total: 69 miles

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    SwStudio said:

    Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
    week and goals.

    been sticking to a triathlon (sprint distance) type of training
    schedule, with a Sept. race in mind, if all looks do-able at the time
    (haven't registered yet). not much cycling this week though, as that
    seems to bring on more of the ITBS. the condition doesn't flare up
    during or after runs any more (knock wood).

    the week:

    s - DRN, :40 swim (continuous, with technique and speed drills,
    different strokes)
    m - :30 run, less than usual, not feeling too great that day
    t - DNR, about :30 swim
    w - :40 run, back on track with the speed and stamina
    t - DNR, :40 swim
    f - :40 swim AND a :40 run
    s - DNR, about :40 swim
    s - DNR, :45 bike, then a :35 continuous swim (front crawl plus some
    drills)

    must continue to aggressively treat the ITBS, which doesn't bother me
    much at all unless i do extended cycling. funny thing, though... the
    bike was set up differently early this summer to stop ITBS problems and
    it worked. not sure why it's recurring. paying attention to technique,
    and doing stretches religiously. will focus on more quad exercises
    again, which normally scares away the ITBS. i get lazy about those
    things now and then.

    Cam

  14. SwStudio wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
    week and goals.

    mon: 1:00 biked, hr 123 recovery
    tues: 0:40 ran flats, hr 130, (strangely low hr)
    wed: 1:20 biked, hr 133
    thur: 0:50 ran, (20 mins tempo), hr 152
    fri: 1:00 family bike ride
    sat: 1:15 biked, hr 132
    sun: 4:25 ran, hr 141, 2/3 on singletrack trails

    goals: Sept 11th 50k trail, Fall orienteering

    During today's long run it was too hot and humid so I adopted a run/walk
    strategy of 8 mins run 2 mins walk when on flats, and walked all major
    hills. This helped keep the HR average down and kept me from overheating
    too much. It was impossible to keep the HR low when running, but the brief
    walk allowed it to settle to about 120 and this helped alot. With six weeks
    to go to 50k, I may do just one more long run of 4 1/2 to 5 hrs, and do a
    couple of faster 2 to 3 hr efforts; not sure yet.

    - Tony

  15. On the long road back..

    Mon-Tues: off
    Wed: 7km running home from work, easy pace, 38 mins.
    Thu: Pool: calf a bit sore, 1800m swim
    Fri: Bike 20 mins, run on grass 42 mins, bike 20 mins HR 130 ave
    Sat: 35 mins bike
    Sun: 55 mins bike. HR 130 ave

    Anthony. Jerusalem, Israel.

  16. "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On the long road back..

    If only the same were true of your country.

  17. np426z said:

    "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On the long road back..

    If only the same were true of your country.

    If I'm not mistaken, for the first time we have Israeli olympians
    running the marathon.
    2 immigrants from Ethiopia running the men's marathon, the 34 y/o Asaf
    Bimro and the
    phenomenal Haile Satain who is officially 49 and ran 2:14 last year. His
    real age is probably
    closer to 43. Our female representative is Nilli Avramski.

    Anthony. Jerusalem, Israel.

  18. Hardly indicative of a vibrant national athletic community.
    "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
    np426z wrote:

    "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On the long road back..

    If only the same were true of your country.

    If I'm not mistaken, for the first time we have Israeli olympians running the marathon.
    2 immigrants from Ethiopia running the men's marathon, the 34 y/o Asaf Bimro and the
    phenomenal Haile Satain who is officially 49 and ran 2:14 last year. His real age is probably
    closer to 43. Our female representative is Nilli Avramski.

    Anthony. Jerusalem, Israel.

  19. Quoted message said:

    If only the same were true of your country.

    We will be on Nov 5th.
    http://www.awolbush.com/

  20. m: still in idaho
    t: back, straight to work, no run.
    w: 6.63mi, 59:15, 8 20 second strides.
    r: 6.63mi, 61:57, calves very sore from yesterday...strides didn't seem
    harder, but it was the first time I did 8.
    f: calves still pretty sore, dnr, getting ready for a good weekend in ny.
    s: 7 mi (to central park and a loop), 59:18, hottest run yet, about 80F.
    s: 2 miles to race start (20 min), 5 mile race (37:18), 2 miles home (20
    min).

    Hard, first race in years, first hard tempo since a few tempo runs back
    in feb/march before some sprained ankles. Slower than I thought it
    would be, probably affected by the rain. must have had about 5 pounds
    of water in my clothes and shoes.

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