Track frame question

Paul D said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame? Would it then
be up to the stresses when the brake was used? Is this is a stupid question
and I should go and look at something built for the job like a Specialized
Langster (which doesn't seem to come frame-only)?

Are you _sure_ you want another track frame? What with compromised
geometry and toe overlap?

If you like 531, why not but a SJS frame off the peg?
If you fancy something blue why not an on-one Pompino?

Both about 180 pounds. Of course you could try having the frame
renovated - I did just that, albeit with a slightly curved top tube
:-), but would probably go along teh SJS route now

regards
daren
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Paul D said:

Crashed my 531-framed bike I've been using as a fixed/SS (flip flop hub) and
I'm pretty sure the frame's not well. Been looking at replacement frames
with 120mm OLN, mainly track frames. However, I want to be able to fit a
rear brake as well as an 'emergency' brake for using the singlespeed.

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame? Would it then
be up to the stresses when the brake was used? Is this is a stupid question
and I should go and look at something built for the job like a Specialized
Langster (which doesn't seem to come frame-only)?

You could always fit v-brakes to the frame using one of these:

http://aebike.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=30&SKU=BR9121

- they are are fixed to the seat-stays with hose (jubilee) clips: I
used them on a hybrid-MTB conversions, and despite looking a bit odd,
they work very well.

Paul D said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame?

No need when you have one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7217500434

(It is the in "Brake Components" section).

~PB

Pete Biggs said:

Paul D said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame?

No need when you have one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7217500434

(It is the in "Brake Components" section).

That's great. My "ho" collects those, too.

Mind you, I find the seller's use of that word offensive.
--
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Pete Biggs said:

Paul D said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame?

No need when you have one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7217500434

There seems to be some mistake. This links to a picture of a very nice
Suzuki GSX600F, but I think uk.rec.motorcycles might be interested....

sothach said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame?

No need when you have one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7217500434

There seems to be some mistake. This links to a picture of a very
nice Suzuki GSX600F, but I think uk.rec.motorcycles might be
interested....

I know eBayland is a strange place but it was a teapot a minute ago!
....All good fixies carry one to rub against the tyre in case of emergency.

Try http://tinyurl.com/crp5z

~PB

Response to Pete Biggs:

Quoted message said:

I know eBayland is a strange place but it was a teapot a minute ago!
...All good fixies carry one to rub against the tyre in case of emergency.

Does it have to be colleable, or will an ordinary teapot do?

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"There are some things only intellectuals are crazy enough to believe."

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Paul D said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame?

No need when you have one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7217500434

(It is the in "Brake Components" section).

Who wouldn't stop for a nice cup of tea?

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Paul D said:

Crashed my 531-framed bike I've been using as a fixed/SS (flip flop hub) and
I'm pretty sure the frame's not well. Been looking at replacement frames
with 120mm OLN, mainly track frames. However, I want to be able to fit a
rear brake as well as an 'emergency' brake for using the singlespeed.

The Fuji Track has a proper rear brake bridge as well as a drilled fork
crown. There are no brake cable guides so you'd have to use the clip-on
type.

Quoted message said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame?

I wouldn't do it, personally. There's not much material there and it
could crush. A modern brake wants a flat surface for the washers to
contact, too.

Pic of the Fuji brake bridge here:

http://www.peeble.com/bikes/bikes.htm

Ta for that. There's a similar fuji on ebay at the mo which I might have a
punt on & sell off the bits I don't need afterwards.

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Quoted message said:

Paul D said:

Crashed my 531-framed bike I've been using as a fixed/SS (flip flop hub)
and I'm pretty sure the frame's not well. Been looking at replacement
frames with 120mm OLN, mainly track frames. However, I want to be able to
fit a rear brake as well as an 'emergency' brake for using the
singlespeed.

The Fuji Track has a proper rear brake bridge as well as a drilled fork
crown. There are no brake cable guides so you'd have to use the clip-on
type.

Quoted message said:

So, is it possible (or even sensible) to drill the rear bridge on a
aluminium or steel (not decided which I want yet) track frame?

I wouldn't do it, personally. There's not much material there and it
could crush. A modern brake wants a flat surface for the washers to
contact, too.

Pic of the Fuji brake bridge here:

http://www.peeble.com/bikes/bikes.htm

Quoted message said:

Ta for that. There's a similar fuji on ebay at the mo which I might
have a punt on & sell off the bits I don't need afterwards.

Gnargh, don't tell everyone will you! Before there was only us two eyeing
it up, now there's squillions.

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Pic of the Fuji brake bridge here:

http://www.peeble.com/bikes/bikes.htm

Oh, that '93 Cannondale. Lust! Drool! How I wanted one of those...

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in message <43f0dbdf.0@entanet>, Zog The Undeniable

(') said:

Pic of the Fuji brake bridge here:

http://www.peeble.com/bikes/bikes.htm

Oh, that '93 Cannondale. Lust! Drool! How I wanted one of those...

That's still a nice looking bike.

Cheers, helen s

wafflycat said:

That's still a nice looking bike.

Plenty of nice-looking bikes from that era:

http://www.widerworld.co.uk/eddy-yet-again.jpg

Eddy will be out again in April. :-)

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wafflycat said:

That's still a nice looking bike.

Plenty of nice-looking bikes from that era:

http://www.widerworld.co.uk/eddy-yet-again.jpg

Eddy will be out again in April. :-)

Isn't the same. Beautiful, I agree, but not the same. In the late
eighties and early nineties, a Cannondale mountain bike was the summit
of my worldly ambition. In the bike shop this afternoon was a beautiful
mid-90s F500 being converted to Rohloff. Lovely bike.

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wafflycat said:

That's still a nice looking bike.

Plenty of nice-looking bikes from that era:

http://www.widerworld.co.uk/eddy-yet-again.jpg

Eddy will be out again in April. :-)

Isn't the same. Beautiful, I agree, but not the same. In the late
eighties and early nineties, a Cannondale mountain bike was the summit
of my worldly ambition. In the bike shop this afternoon was a beautiful
mid-90s F500 being converted to Rohloff. Lovely bike.

Not just me then. The Cannondale referred to was indeed a nice-looking bike.
The Eddy wasn't in the same aesthetic standard, alas. But you know what they
say, that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ferzample, I just can't find
anything pleasing to look at in a full-suspension mountain bike no matter
how expensive and top-of-the-range it may be, yet

http://www.cervelo.com/models/fullsize/2006_Cervelo_P3_Carbon.png

is a thing of exceeding beauty to mine offspring and I can see why as it is
a thing of beauty.

Cheers, helen s

wafflycat said:

http://www.cervelo.com/models/fullsize/2006_Cervelo_P3_Carbon.png

Eww. Pugly.

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wafflycat said:

http://www.cervelo.com/models/fullsize/2006_Cervelo_P3_Carbon.png

Eww. Pugly.

You see, beauty is in the eye of the beholder :-)

Cheers, helen s

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wafflycat wrote:

> That's still a nice looking bike.

Plenty of nice-looking bikes from that era:

http://www.widerworld.co.uk/eddy-yet-again.jpg

Eddy will be out again in April. :-)

Isn't the same. Beautiful, I agree, but not the same. In the late
eighties and early nineties, a Cannondale mountain bike was the summit
of my worldly ambition. In the bike shop this afternoon was a
beautiful mid-90s F500 being converted to Rohloff. Lovely bike.

Not just me then. The Cannondale referred to was indeed a nice-looking
bike. The Eddy wasn't in the same aesthetic standard, alas. But you
know what they say, that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Ferzample, I just can't find anything pleasing to look at in a
full-suspension mountain bike no matter how expensive and
top-of-the-range it may be, yet

http://www.cervelo.com/models/fullsize/2006_Cervelo_P3_Carbon.png

is a thing of exceeding beauty to mine offspring and I can see why as
it is a thing of beauty.

De gustibus nil disputandem est, as they say. No, I can't like that,
although I can see why someone else can (and I can also see that it is
exceedingly fit for purpose). Curiously, though, I find the Isaac Joule
<URL:http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/glorycycles_1882_8867769>
an exceedingly good looking bike, and it isn't that different. I think
it's the curvature of the seat tube around the front of the wheel on the
Cervelo that puts me off. I see /exactly/ why it's a good thing -
shorter chain stay, better stiffness, better power transmission, but not
pretty.

On the other hand, I think this
<URL:http://www.cannondale.com/rush/images/6vm4krep.jpg>
a good looking bike, and I think this
<URL:http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/02/images/large/j1000_02.jpg>
is a great looking bike (it's an 02, and is more gracile about the swing
arm and the trunnion cage than mine - but I like mine too!)

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