"David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Mike Murray said:
What I do think is unacceptable is falling down because of a pulled foot. I have pulled a foot 3 times in mass start track races; once from a broken cleat and twice because I was struck by another rider and the hit twisted my foot out. Just relaxing the other leg and sitting down will keep you upright. Falling because of a single pulled foot is generally a variation of the "I forgot to keep pedaling" problem where the leg that is still on the pedal is kept stiff and the rider gets pitched over the bars.
Very very seldom does the "I forgot to pedal" syndrome result in being pitched over the bars.
Very very seldom does the "I forgot to pedal" syndrome result in being pitched over the bars.
I remember the first time I did intervals on a track bike I almost fell due to the inbuild reaction of free wheeling after a hard interval that one acquires when riding a road bike.
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:22:40 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>
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I remember the first time I did intervals on a track bike I almost fell due to the inbuild reaction of free wheeling after a hard interval that one acquires when riding a road bike.
Yeah, but you have to be moving to really go over the handlebars. Mostly you do a move/lift to the side and fold up.
Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:22:40 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>
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I remember the first time I did intervals on a track bike I almost fell due to the inbuild reaction of free wheeling after a hard interval that one acquires when riding a road bike.
Yeah, but you have to be moving to really go over the handlebars. Mostly you do a move/lift to the side and fold up.
In any instance, it's the simplest thing in the world to freewheel on a trackie.
I remember the first time I did intervals on a track bike I almost fell due to the inbuild reaction of free wheeling after a hard interval that one acquires when riding a road bike.
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Curtis L. Russell said:
Yeah, but you have to be moving to really go over the handlebars. Mostly you do a move/lift to the side and fold up.
Davey_Crockett said:
In any instance, it's the simplest thing in the world to freewheel on a trackie.
With a single speed fixed gear with no freewheel ? Enlighten me.
I know some will disagree, but the fact is that clipless pedals should not even be permitted on the track in mass start events. They are dangerous. Pulling out of your pedals is as dumb as rolling a tire because you didn't glue it right. It's 100% unacceptable.
I have to agree with the sentiment. My experience is that most pull-outs of clipless pedals are worn Look cleats. Maybe avoiding them is the issue.
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In addition, as I said in my previous note, I am not so sure that clips and staps are less likely than other systems to pull out.
I disagree. Double-straps are almost foolproof. Single straps will allow pullout, but decent cleats and double straps are very secure.
It should be noted that there are pedal designs where an upward pull _cannot_ release the cleat, only a twist. Egg Beaters are one example.
>I remember the first time I did intervals on a track bike I almost fell >due to the inbuild reaction of free wheeling after a hard interval that >one acquires when riding a road bike.
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Curtis L. Russell said:
Yeah, but you have to be moving to really go over the handlebars. Mostly you do a move/lift to the side and fold up.
Davey_Crockett said:
In any instance, it's the simplest thing in the world to freewheel on a trackie.
With a single speed fixed gear with no freewheel ? Enlighten me.
I know some will disagree, but the fact is that clipless pedals should not even be permitted on the track in mass start events. They are dangerous.
you've got a long way to go to prove this statement given the ubiquity of clipless pedals in mass start events on the track. I've been to about a dozen 6 Day nights in the last 5 years and I haven't seen a rider with clips in all the mass start races yet. Haven't seen a crash caused by somebody clipping out either.
Clipless pedals can be safe if well maintained and adjusted properly. By your logic sewups shouldn't be allowed at all because they can roll and cause a crash too.
In any instance, it's the simplest thing in the world to freewheel on a trackie.
Donald Munro said:
Quoted message said:
With a single speed fixed gear with no freewheel ? Enlighten me.
Davey_Crockett said:
Ass firmly on saddle
Hands firmly on bars
Left foot on left side of fork crown
Right foot on right side of fork crown
Voila Free Wheeling 🙂
Feet on the fork is cheating :-) I'll have to give that a try sometime when I ride a track bike again (not all that frequently I'm afraid - I don't like being beaten by all those fast twitch track types).
