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The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
the bloke RAN faster than a car.

what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

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The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
the bloke RAN faster than a car.

A most impressive performance. Thanks for the 'heads up'.

Vernon

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The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
the bloke RAN faster than a car.

what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Given the right conditions, *all* cars can be beaten by cyclists.
I am far from being an athlete and have beaten Porches, Subarus, Jaguars
and other lesser cars over three/four miles from Lawnswood into Leeds city
centre. Didn't have to break into a sweat either :-)

Wouldn't like to engage them on the open road ;-)

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The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments", the bloke RAN faster
than a car.

what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Any one. This was a new 4x4 Fiat Panda.
The deal was that the car and runner had to traverse the London
marathon route during the morning. They set off head-to-head in
Greenwich Park.

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what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Any car that was doing that 26 mile route around central London at rush
hour (well, they had to give the jogger a chance).

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The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
the bloke RAN faster than a car.

what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Given the right conditions, *all* cars can be beaten by cyclists.
I am far from being an athlete and have beaten Porches, Subarus, Jaguars
and other lesser cars over three/four miles from Lawnswood into Leeds city
centre. Didn't have to break into a sweat either :-)

Wouldn't like to engage them on the open road ;-)

i can regularly beat the bus from my house into the town centre
approximatley 6 miles away. with the traffic and how often they pull over to
pick up and let off commuters. i just cant understand why others dont try it
you can cycle there quicker, keep fit and save yourself £4. Result.

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what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Any car that was doing that 26 mile route around central London at rush
hour (well, they had to give the jogger a chance).

Are we talking a typical red light-running London cyclist here? ;-)

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The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
the bloke RAN faster than a car.

what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Given the right conditions, *all* cars can be beaten by cyclists.
I am far from being an athlete and have beaten Porches, Subarus,
Jaguars and other lesser cars over three/four miles from Lawnswood into
Leeds city centre. Didn't have to break into a sweat either :-)

Wouldn't like to engage them on the open road ;-)

I have overtaken an E-Type Jaguar on an unlimited road[1], and then
managed to stay ahead of it for eight miles - not because it couldn't
pass me but because it couldn't /catch/ me. The driver did not look the
least little bit amused.

The special circumstances involved where that we were descending the
Kirkstone pass, and the road is both very steep and very twisty. I was
able to out-corner the E-Type by some margin.

[1] In 1972 which IIRC was before the introduction of national speed
limits

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The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
the bloke RAN faster than a car.

what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

I can confirm that a Lamborghini Murcielago is faster than me on my
(mostly open road) commuting route.

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John Hearns said:

The runner wins.

Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
the bloke RAN faster than a car.

There aren't too many people around that would run that route faster
than driving it. The route wasn't closed off, it was sleeting, and the
dude still ran it in 2:28.

Clarkson would be well into his third lap before I finished...

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what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Any car that was doing that 26 mile route around central London at rush
hour (well, they had to give the jogger a chance).

Are we talking a typical red light-running London cyclist here? ;-)

well you could simply hop onto the pavement briefly.......no need to go
through red lights.

Mark Tranchant said:

I can confirm that a Lamborghini Murcielago is faster than me on my
(mostly open road) commuting route.

There was, however a bike versus car thingy in Belgium (which of course does
not exist) a couple of years ago. The Ferrari was well beaten...

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The special circumstances involved where that we were descending the
Kirkstone pass, and the road is both very steep and very twisty. I was
able to out-corner the E-Type by some margin.

Given that he had to be prepared for stuff coming the other way, yes. Shut
the road and make him drive at the same level of risk as you (I'd guess you
were going for it - well, I would be in that situation :-) ), and he'll
out-corner you.

cheers,
clive

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The special circumstances involved where that we were descending the
Kirkstone pass, and the road is both very steep and very twisty. I was
able to out-corner the E-Type by some margin.

Given that he had to be prepared for stuff coming the other way, yes.
Shut the road and make him drive at the same level of risk as you (I'd
guess you were going for it - well, I would be in that situation :-) ),
and he'll out-corner you.

Don't think so. Not on that road. The bends are simply too tight and the
road too narrow for a car with a wheelbase that long to take fast. But
yes, I was seventeen, immortal, and going for it.

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The special circumstances involved where that we were descending the
Kirkstone pass, and the road is both very steep and very twisty. I was
able to out-corner the E-Type by some margin.

Given that he had to be prepared for stuff coming the other way, yes.
Shut the road and make him drive at the same level of risk as you (I'd
guess you were going for it - well, I would be in that situation :-) ),
and he'll out-corner you.

Don't think so. Not on that road. The bends are simply too tight and the
road too narrow for a car with a wheelbase that long to take fast. But
yes, I was seventeen, immortal, and going for it.

Amazing, and I bet you weren't even wearing a helmet, which, of course, would
have protected you from any and all possible injuries.

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> The runner wins.
>
> Forget the "should have used a bicycle comments",
> the bloke RAN faster than a car.

what car do you think could be beaten by a cyclist?

Given the right conditions, *all* cars can be beaten by cyclists.
I am far from being an athlete and have beaten Porches, Subarus,
Jaguars and other lesser cars over three/four miles from Lawnswood into
Leeds city centre. Didn't have to break into a sweat either :-)

Wouldn't like to engage them on the open road ;-)

I have overtaken an E-Type Jaguar on an unlimited road[1], and then
managed to stay ahead of it for eight miles - not because it couldn't
pass me but because it couldn't /catch/ me. The driver did not look the
least little bit amused.

You really are an *amazing* cyclist, Simon.

Not only are you so perfect that you think people should not be protected
against their own stupidity, you can also outpace an e-type Jaguar on very bendy
roads, *AND* spare the time to check the expression on its driver's face, when
any mortal cyclist would certainly be concentrating on watching where he was
going.

A true cycling God, and no mistake!

Steven said:

Not only are you so perfect that you think people should not be protected
against their own stupidity, you can also outpace an e-type Jaguar on very bendy
roads, *AND* spare the time to check the expression on its driver's face, when
any mortal cyclist would certainly be concentrating on watching where he was
going.

If you've never left behind someone you shouldn't have been able to
leave behind then you won't realise the enormous satisfaction to be had
seeing them having a problem with it. It's perfectly normal human
behaviour. At 40 mph there's plenty of time to look behind you on a
relatively straight but not /too/ long stretch, which is quite
impossible to overtake anything rationally on while driving a car.

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A true cycling God, and no mistake!

No, just a bloke with the some of the normal enjoyment buttons.

Pete.
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Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Steven said:

Not only are you so perfect that you think people should not be protected
against their own stupidity, you can also outpace an e-type Jaguar on
very bendy
roads, *AND* spare the time to check the expression on its driver's
face, when
any mortal cyclist would certainly be concentrating on watching where
he was
going.

If you've never left behind someone you shouldn't have been able to
leave behind then you won't realise the enormous satisfaction to be had
seeing them having a problem with it. It's perfectly normal human
behaviour. At 40 mph there's plenty of time to look behind you

And, indeed, on the Kirkstone Pass it's quite possible in some places to
look *forward* to see the expression of someone you've left behind...

R.

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Steven said:

Not only are you so perfect that you think people should not be protected
against their own stupidity, you can also outpace an e-type Jaguar on very bendy
roads, *AND* spare the time to check the expression on its driver's face, when
any mortal cyclist would certainly be concentrating on watching where he was
going.

If you've never left behind someone you shouldn't have been able to
leave behind then you won't realise the enormous satisfaction to be had
seeing them having a problem with it.

Although, in reality, the frown on his face was more likely to be one of
concentration than any particular distress that a cyclist was able to stay
ahead.

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It's perfectly normal human
behaviour.

Indeed it is. Assume that someone is discomfited at your glory, rather than just
trying to concentrate on driving along a bendy road.

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At 40 mph there's plenty of time to look behind you on a
relatively straight but not /too/ long stretch, which is quite
impossible to overtake anything rationally on while driving a car.

Well it would have to be, wouldn't it. Simon doesn't believe that people should
be protected from their own stupidity, so it is clear that he would never behave
stupidly himself.

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A true cycling God, and no mistake!

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No, just a bloke with the some of the normal enjoyment buttons.

No, I think he's cycling God.

From what he posts.