Too Much Protein Causing Ammonia BO?

Eat more fat.

In news:[email hidden],
Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
| Has anyone experienced a problem with ammonia body odour? I've been
| noticing it faintly in the shower for about 3 weeks now. I don't
| work out or do any strenuous activity that would cause me to sweat,
| this is just whatever has accumulated during the previous day.
| Luckily, I seem to be the only one who can smell it since my
| co-workers haven't started to shun me...yet.
| I average between 100 and 130g protein per day, but I'm a small
| person at 5 feet 2.5 inches tall and 110 pounds. Protein Power Plan
| recommends only 81g protein per day for someone my size. And I'm
| also slowly working my carb intake up to whatever my maintenance
| level will be. I'm currently at 45g net carbs per day.
| I did google on the net and it's likely due to too much protein for
| me. Several sites recommended L-Arginine supplementation, but I
| gained 1.5 pounds in 3 days when I tried it. Reducing my protein to
| anything under 90g per day would drop my daily calories to around
| 1100. I don't want to go that low or I'm afraid I'll lose more
| weight.
| Any advice?
|
| -----
| Bev

How? I'm already using high-fat salad dressings, butter on veggies,
full-fat yogurt, etc. My fat intake generally equals or surpasses my
protein grams per day.

FOB said:

Eat more fat.

In news:[email hidden],
Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
| Has anyone experienced a problem with ammonia body odour? I've been
| noticing it faintly in the shower for about 3 weeks now. I don't
| work out or do any strenuous activity that would cause me to sweat,
| this is just whatever has accumulated during the previous day.
| Luckily, I seem to be the only one who can smell it since my
| co-workers haven't started to shun me...yet.
| I average between 100 and 130g protein per day, but I'm a small
| person at 5 feet 2.5 inches tall and 110 pounds. Protein Power Plan
| recommends only 81g protein per day for someone my size. And I'm
| also slowly working my carb intake up to whatever my maintenance
| level will be. I'm currently at 45g net carbs per day.
| I did google on the net and it's likely due to too much protein for
| me. Several sites recommended L-Arginine supplementation, but I
| gained 1.5 pounds in 3 days when I tried it. Reducing my protein to
| anything under 90g per day would drop my daily calories to around
| 1100. I don't want to go that low or I'm afraid I'll lose more
| weight.
| Any advice?
|
| -----
| Bev

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Bev

Thanks, this makes me feel a little better. :-)
As I mentioned, if I decrease my protein my calories will drop too. I'm
under 1700 per day as it is. So I'm going to stick it out. I'm hoping it
will diminish as my carb intake increases over the next few months.
I was worried after I first noticed it and found sites talking about kidney
problems. I just hope my co-workers don't start wearing nose-plugs when I
walk into a room. :-)))

Ignoramus16074 said:

It is common, and normal. Eat less protein...

-----
Bev

Cream cheese, heavy cream, more butter.

In news:[email hidden],
Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
| How? I'm already using high-fat salad dressings, butter on veggies,
| full-fat yogurt, etc. My fat intake generally equals or surpasses my
| protein grams per day.
|
| on Tue, 28 Sep 2004 01:01:05 GMT, "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|| Eat more fat.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
||| Has anyone experienced a problem with ammonia body odour? I've been
||| noticing it faintly in the shower for about 3 weeks now. I don't
||| work out or do any strenuous activity that would cause me to sweat,
||| this is just whatever has accumulated during the previous day.
||| Luckily, I seem to be the only one who can smell it since my
||| co-workers haven't started to shun me...yet.
||| I average between 100 and 130g protein per day, but I'm a small
||| person at 5 feet 2.5 inches tall and 110 pounds. Protein Power Plan
||| recommends only 81g protein per day for someone my size. And I'm
||| also slowly working my carb intake up to whatever my maintenance
||| level will be. I'm currently at 45g net carbs per day.
||| I did google on the net and it's likely due to too much protein for
||| me. Several sites recommended L-Arginine supplementation, but I
||| gained 1.5 pounds in 3 days when I tried it. Reducing my protein to
||| anything under 90g per day would drop my daily calories to around
||| 1100. I don't want to go that low or I'm afraid I'll lose more
||| weight.
||| Any advice?
|||
||| -----
||| Bev
||
|
| -----
| Bev

Are you drinking lots of water?

Barb

Bev-Ann said:

Has anyone experienced a problem with ammonia body odour? I've been
noticing it faintly in the shower for about 3 weeks now. I don't work out
or do any strenuous activity that would cause me to sweat, this is just
whatever has accumulated during the previous day. Luckily, I seem to be
the only one who can smell it since my co-workers haven't started to shun
me...yet.
I average between 100 and 130g protein per day, but I'm a small person at 5
feet 2.5 inches tall and 110 pounds. Protein Power Plan recommends only
81g protein per day for someone my size. And I'm also slowly working my
carb intake up to whatever my maintenance level will be. I'm currently at
45g net carbs per day.
I did google on the net and it's likely due to too much protein for me.
Several sites recommended L-Arginine supplementation, but I gained 1.5
pounds in 3 days when I tried it. Reducing my protein to anything under
90g per day would drop my daily calories to around 1100. I don't want to
go that low or I'm afraid I'll lose more weight.
Any advice?

-----
Bev

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Reducing my protein to anything under

Quoted message said:

90g per day would drop my daily calories to around 1100. I don't want to
go that low or I'm afraid I'll lose more weight.
Any advice?

-----
Bev

Reduce your protein and increase your fat intake to maintain the same
calorie balance. If you're concerned about the effects of too much protein,
you may want to read DANDR as an alternative o ver Protein Power. Atkins
is a high-fat/moderate-protein/low-carb plan and has none of the dangers of
high-protein plans.

Peter

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

How? I'm already using high-fat salad dressings, butter on veggies,
full-fat yogurt, etc. My fat intake generally equals or surpasses my
protein grams per day.

It should surpass it by a lot. Many of us find the ideal calorie ratio for
weight loss and health benefits to be about 75% fat, 20% protein and 5%
carbs.

Peter

How do you guyz do this? Perhaps this is my problem with low-carb not
working! I have my carb grams in check, but my protein is too high.

Typically I have eggs for breakfast, salad with deli-turkey for lunch
and dinner can be chicken, fish, beef.

I have noticed that my hair feels dirty all the time tho.

marengo said:

It should surpass it by a lot. Many of us find the ideal calorie ratio for
weight loss and health benefits to be about 75% fat, 20% protein and 5%
carbs.

Peter

--
Judy
194/193.5/160
Restarted: 9/28/04

197.5/193/160 5' 11"
10/26/03 - 1/10/04

Most likely, you eat too much.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Judy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

How do you guyz do this? Perhaps this is my problem with low-carb not
working! I have my carb grams in check, but my protein is too high.

Typically I have eggs for breakfast, salad with deli-turkey for lunch and
dinner can be chicken, fish, beef.

I have noticed that my hair feels dirty all the time tho.

marengo said:

It should surpass it by a lot. Many of us find the ideal calorie ratio
for
weight loss and health benefits to be about 75% fat, 20% protein and 5%
carbs.

Peter

--
Judy
194/193.5/160
Restarted: 9/28/04

197.5/193/160 5' 11"
10/26/03 - 1/10/04

I'm already using full-fat versions of everything so the only way to add
fat would be to drink oil straight out of the bottle. I'm not into trying
that.

marengo said:

It should surpass it by a lot. Many of us find the ideal calorie ratio for
weight loss and health benefits to be about 75% fat, 20% protein and 5%
carbs.

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Bev

I'd like to know too. My typical menu is full-fat yogurt with 2
tablespoons of flax oil and fruit for breakfast, baked black soy beans (has
bacon and butter in recipe) with full-fat garlic sausage or similar for
lunch, and beef, lamb or pork (fat not trimmed) with salad (full-fat
dressing) and veggies (butter added) for dinner. My protein generally
equals or is slightly lower than my fat grams.

Judy said:

How do you guyz do this? Perhaps this is my problem with low-carb not
working! I have my carb grams in check, but my protein is too high.

Typically I have eggs for breakfast, salad with deli-turkey for lunch
and dinner can be chicken, fish, beef.

I have noticed that my hair feels dirty all the time tho.

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Bev

Judy,

I found that controlling protein was an important part of making my low carb
weight loss work.

I've put together a page that helps you calculate your actual need for
protein at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/proteincalc.htm

Cutting protein most definitely eliminated the bad breath that had caused
serious problems for me in my earlier stint of low carbing.

Unfortunately, it has to be said, that cutting protein also takes away a lot
of the "fun" of eating low carb especially for women. The smaller you are,
the lower your need for protein, the more likely that you won't be able to
feast on 8 ounce hamburgers and 12 ounce steaks and still lose weight.

--
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hba1c 5.7 .
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"Judy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

How do you guyz do this? Perhaps this is my problem with low-carb not
working! I have my carb grams in check, but my protein is too high.

Typically I have eggs for breakfast, salad with deli-turkey for lunch
and dinner can be chicken, fish, beef.

I have noticed that my hair feels dirty all the time tho.

marengo said:

It should surpass it by a lot. Many of us find the ideal calorie ratio

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight loss and health benefits to be about 75% fat, 20% protein and 5%
carbs.

Peter

--
Judy
194/193.5/160
Restarted: 9/28/04

197.5/193/160 5' 11"
10/26/03 - 1/10/04

Nuts, heavy cream on SF Jello, butter on veggies, cream cheese.

In news:[email hidden],
Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
| I'm already using full-fat versions of everything so the only way to
| add fat would be to drink oil straight out of the bottle. I'm not
| into trying that.
|
| on Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:13:18 -0400, "marengo" <[email hidden]>
| wrote:
|
|| It should surpass it by a lot. Many of us find the ideal calorie
|| ratio for weight loss and health benefits to be about 75% fat, 20%
|| protein and 5% carbs.
|
| -----
| Bev

Judy said:

How do you guyz do this?

I don't. I am on Atkins and I only had those percentages during
Induction, 14 days. After that my percentage of carbs increased
on schedule and my percentage of fat fell to match it. My
percentage of protein always hovered in the 20-30% range. My
CCLL used during my loss phases was 50 grams of carb per day,
a bit over 10%. My CCLM used during Maintenance phase is 100,
around 20%.

As to how to acheive 75% fat, 20% protein, 5% fat, do it by
following the directions in the 1993 and 1999 edition of the
DANDR book works. "Be shocklingly unfraid of fat" is what Dr A
wrote. Butter on the broccoli, don't trim the steak, that sort
of stuff. It all tapers off as you move farther into the plan.

Quoted message said:

Perhaps this is my problem with low-carb not
working! I have my carb grams in check, but my protein is too high.

Atkins is high fat not high protein. In Discover magazine this
month is an article that mentions that 40% of calories from protein
is a practical maximum above which most people get health problems.

But just figuring fat and protein, for the same total calories
more fat and less protein does cause better loss in a lot of people.
In contrast, for the same total calories more protein and less fat
takes less effort.

Bev-Ann said:

I'm already using full-fat versions of everything so the only way to add
fat would be to drink oil straight out of the bottle. I'm not into trying
that.

Drinking oil from the bottle could easily be something your body
will forbid you from doing if you try it several days in a row.
I tried having two shot glasses of olive oil for breakfast every
day for a week a few years ago. It was the same number of
calories as my usual eggs and cheese, so it should have been
interchangible. No way. I had no problem the first day or two.
Then each day it got harder and harder to do. By the end of the
week I gagged on the first sip and couldn't swallow it without
holding my nose. But to show how purity effects the body's
reaction to fat, think about having the same amount of fat as
amount a cup of cream. I might be able to chug that daily forever.

Anyways ...

Think of having a plate with olive oil on the table. Have about
half your regular portion of meat and dip each piece in olive
oil. It will end up about the same total calories, more filling,
and your targetted ratio. Consider 50-50 olive oil and some type
of nut oil for the essential fatty acids.

When you have your veggie, add oil or butter.

Judy said:

How do you guyz do this? Perhaps this is my problem with low-carb not
working! I have my carb grams in check, but my protein is too high.

Typically I have eggs for breakfast, salad with deli-turkey for lunch
and dinner can be chicken, fish, beef.

Hello Judy,

Could you tell us approximately how many calories you've been
consuming? Since you don't have much to lose (less than 50 lbs),
calories can really matter.

Quoted message said:

I have noticed that my hair feels dirty all the time tho.

Bad ventilation in your kitchen????????? :-)

I don't notice any changes with my hair since going low carb (except
lower hair loss) - I've been washing my hair almost daily since 12.

FOB said:

Nuts,

Adds carbs

Quoted message said:

heavy cream on SF Jello

I absolutely despise jello. Cream adds carbs.

Quoted message said:

butter on veggies

Already doing that.

Quoted message said:

cream cheese

Adds carbs

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Bev

(Doug Freyburger) said:

Think of having a plate with olive oil on the table. Have about
half your regular portion of meat and dip each piece in olive
oil. It will end up about the same total calories, more filling,
and your targetted ratio. Consider 50-50 olive oil and some type
of nut oil for the essential fatty acids.

That's a disgusting thought for me. I hate oily food.
I'm adding 2 tablespoons of flax oil to my full-fat yogurt smoothie in the
morning. I don't buy particularly lean cuts of meat, and never remove the
skin from chicken (the BEST part), etc.

Quoted message said:

When you have your veggie, add oil or butter.

Already doing that. And using full-fat dressings on my salads.

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Bev

Carbs in cream are 1 per ounce, 11 grams of fat and one of protein, more fat
bang than nuts. Cream cheese is the same. How low are you keeping your
carbs?

In news:[email hidden],
Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
| on Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:37:54 GMT, "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|| Nuts,
|
| Adds carbs
|
|| heavy cream on SF Jello
|
| I absolutely despise jello. Cream adds carbs.
|
|| butter on veggies
|
| Already doing that.
|
|| cream cheese
|
| Adds carbs
|
| -----
| Bev