Tetanus: the disease versus the vaccine

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Tetanus: the disease versus the vaccine

By Ingri Cassel (Reprinted from the Fall/Winter 2001 VacLib Letter)

Walene James, the founder of Vaccination Liberation and author of
Immunization: The Reality Behind the Myth, has received several inquiries
regarding the tetanus vaccine. Most of these calls are from concern of
developing tetanus due to refusing the vaccine. After all, this is what
they have been told all of their lives: tetanus is a very serious illness
that will likely result from a deep puncture wound, the disease is deadly,
and the only reliable way to prevent tetanus is by receiving an injection
of the tetanus vaccine.

Tetanus is a problem of wound hygiene; not vaccination status.

In 5% to 10% of tetanus cases, no wound at all is identified.

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Tetanus has
not been eliminated in this country and is reported to be most prevalent

in

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nursing homes. It is in these places that bedridden patients develop
decubitus ulcers or bedsores that are not properly cared for. The tetanus
spore thrives in an open wound that has gotten dirty and is deprived of
oxygen. There is nothing about developing tetanus and recovering that can
impart immunity to this disease. If a person is careless about wound
hygiene s/he may get it again and again regardless of his/her vaccination
status.

According to the CDC, a much more reliable source of information than
"Vaccination Liberation," tetanus occurs almost exclusively in persons who
are unvaccinated or inadequately immunized.

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Wound hygiene consists of cleansing the wound properly and keeping it
clean. In the case of a deep puncture wound, be sure it bleeds and clean

it

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with hydrogen peroxide.I always stop the bleeding, once cleaned, with
60,000 H.U. or stronger cayenne pepper. Cayenne pepper is a wonderful
antiseptic and styptic (equalizes blood pressure and stops bleeding). If
the wound is severe and may require stitching or surgery, it is good to
know about comfrey root powder and basic natural healing principles.

Packing a wound with cayenne pepper, comfrey root powder, or any other
foreigh substance is not proper wound care. The best stuff to cleanse a
wound is sterile 0.9% saline solution. Lacking that, clean water is a good
choice.

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As with all vaccines, the tetanus vaccine used today is toxic. Leon
Chaitow, author of Vaccination and Immunization: Dangers, Delusions and
Alternatives, stated that one thousandth part of a milliliter of the broth
in which the tetanus bacillus is grown, is enough to kill a guinea pig if
injected into it.

What does the "broth in which the tetanus bacillus is grown" have to do with
the toxicity of the vaccine?

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And from the VacLib website www.vaclib.org/email/tetanustoomany.htm --
Journal of Family Practice, Volume 44, no. 3 March, 1997, pgs 299 - 303.
Elevated Antitoxin Titers in a Man with Generalized Tetanus.
"...This report describes severe, generalized tetanus in a 29-year old man
who had received a primary series as a child and two booster injections.
Serum obtained before administration of tetanus immune globulin showed
antibody titers to tetanus greater than 100 times the level considered
protective."

Yes, you would expect to find elevated antitoxin titers in a person with
tetanus.

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My comments. The person had a history of amphetamine abuse...and although
some drugs such as strychnine which is commonly used in street drugs as a
"cutting" agent, and others such as haloperidol, piperazines and some
antidepressants can cause muscles spasms reminiscent of tetanus, these
drugs can be identified in the urine.

What does any of that have to do with tetanus?

..

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I have personally known only one person who had tetanus. She was 26, had
also had a primary schedule and more than one booster, though she didn't
know how many. She was an alcoholic, smoked like a train and lived on
trash-food.

So she got tetanus because she had unhealthy habits? Those of us who don't
drink, smoke, or eat burgers and fries are immune? How silly.

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In addition, in Russia in the last diphtheria epidemic, most of the deaths
were in immunized homeless alcoholics. Says something, don't you think....
And finally, one former VacLib member told us of her experience having
tetanus. She was in her mid-forties and had cut her foot on a heating vent
in the floor. Keep in mind that this wound was deprived of oxygen since

she

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likely wore shoes and socks on a daily basis. She told us that she was
quite ill for about two months. She recovered completely by detoxifying

her

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body through colon cleansing, modified fasting and taking high quality
enzymes.

So two months of severe illness, high colonics, starvation, and expensive
supplements is better than a tetanus shot? Not for me, thank you!

--Rich

Ihope nobody dies because they actually believe your drivel. Tetanus
can, and does, kill.

Dave

john said:

Tetanus: the disease versus the vaccine

By Ingri Cassel (Reprinted from the Fall/Winter 2001 VacLib Letter)

Walene James, the founder of Vaccination Liberation and author of
Immunization: The Reality Behind the Myth, has received several inquiries
regarding the tetanus vaccine. Most of these calls are from concern of
developing tetanus due to refusing the vaccine. After all, this is what
they have been told all of their lives: tetanus is a very serious illness
that will likely result from a deep puncture wound, the disease is deadly,
and the only reliable way to prevent tetanus is by receiving an injection
of the tetanus vaccine.

Tetanus is a problem of wound hygiene; not vaccination status. Tetanus has
not been eliminated in this country and is reported to be most prevalent in
nursing homes. It is in these places that bedridden patients develop
decubitus ulcers or bedsores that are not properly cared for. The tetanus
spore thrives in an open wound that has gotten dirty and is deprived of
oxygen. There is nothing about developing tetanus and recovering that can
impart immunity to this disease. If a person is careless about wound
hygiene s/he may get it again and again regardless of his/her vaccination
status.

Wound hygiene consists of cleansing the wound properly and keeping it
clean. In the case of a deep puncture wound, be sure it bleeds and clean it
with hydrogen peroxide.I always stop the bleeding, once cleaned, with
60,000 H.U. or stronger cayenne pepper. Cayenne pepper is a wonderful
antiseptic and styptic (equalizes blood pressure and stops bleeding). If
the wound is severe and may require stitching or surgery, it is good to
know about comfrey root powder and basic natural healing principles.

As with all vaccines, the tetanus vaccine used today is toxic. Leon
Chaitow, author of Vaccination and Immunization: Dangers, Delusions and
Alternatives, stated that one thousandth part of a milliliter of the broth
in which the tetanus bacillus is grown, is enough to kill a guinea pig if
injected into it.

And from the VacLib website www.vaclib.org/email/tetanustoomany.htm --
Journal of Family Practice, Volume 44, no. 3 March, 1997, pgs 299 - 303.
Elevated Antitoxin Titers in a Man with Generalized Tetanus.
"...This report describes severe, generalized tetanus in a 29-year old man
who had received a primary series as a child and two booster injections.
Serum obtained before administration of tetanus immune globulin showed
antibody titers to tetanus greater than 100 times the level considered
protective."

My comments. The person had a history of amphetamine abuse...and although
some drugs such as strychnine which is commonly used in street drugs as a
"cutting" agent, and others such as haloperidol, piperazines and some
antidepressants can cause muscles spasms reminiscent of tetanus, these
drugs can be identified in the urine.

I have personally known only one person who had tetanus. She was 26, had
also had a primary schedule and more than one booster, though she didn't
know how many. She was an alcoholic, smoked like a train and lived on
trash-food.

In addition, in Russia in the last diphtheria epidemic, most of the deaths
were in immunized homeless alcoholics. Says something, don't you think....
And finally, one former VacLib member told us of her experience having
tetanus. She was in her mid-forties and had cut her foot on a heating vent
in the floor. Keep in mind that this wound was deprived of oxygen since she
likely wore shoes and socks on a daily basis. She told us that she was
quite ill for about two months. She recovered completely by detoxifying her
body through colon cleansing, modified fasting and taking high quality
enzymes.

**************************
Ingri Cassel, President
Vaccination Liberation - Idaho Chapter
P.O. Box 457
Spirit Lake, ID 83869
(208)255-2307/ 888-249-1421
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John must scour the earth to find material as ignorant as this. Note how a
wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient wearing shoes and socks,
as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

It would be funny if these idiots were not a such a menace to any that are
simple-minded enough to believe them.

Peter Moran

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Moran said:

John must scour the earth to find material as ignorant as this. Note how a
wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient wearing shoes and socks,
as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

Probably saw Goldfinger and believed that silliness about "skin
suffocation." I swear, some people treat action/adventure movies
as though they were documentaries.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Peter Moran said:

Note how a wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient
wearing shoes and socks, as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

There is nothing incorrect about that. There's a distinction between
wounds that are relatively open and exposed to atmospheric oxygen, and
wounds that are closed and are not oxygenated (the tissues around them
might be, but not the wound itself). It makes a difference for
anaerobic organisms, which is why deep puncture wounds are especially
risky for tetanus.

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Subject: Re: Tetanus: the disease versus the vaccine
From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
Date: 12/10/03 3:40 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

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John must scour the earth to find material as ignorant as this. Note how a
wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient wearing shoes and socks,
as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

I suggest you do some more reading, and perhaps include understanding and
remembering when you suggest that we do not get oxygen throught our skin.

I do remember the female dying in goldfinger from being painted in gold. Did
she or didn't she?

Dr. C. PhD.

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Ihope nobody dies because they actually believe your drivel. Tetanus
can, and does, kill.

Maybe.

One thing is sure. Nothing kills like a well intending MD with a
Black bag full of poisons. Something like 1,000 people a day in the
US alone.

Dr. C. PhD.

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DRCEEPHD said:

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Subject: Re: Tetanus: the disease versus the vaccine
From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
Date: 12/10/03 3:40 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

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John must scour the earth to find material as ignorant as this. Note how a
wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient wearing shoes and socks,
as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

I suggest you do some more reading, and perhaps include understanding and
remembering when you suggest that we do not get oxygen throught our skin.

I do remember the female dying in goldfinger from being painted in gold. Did
she or didn't she?

Hey, can I call 'em, or what?

News for you, Chuck: Goldfinger was not a documentary.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Dave S <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<cWHBb.9247

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Ihope nobody dies because they actually believe your drivel. Tetanus
can, and does, kill.

Maybe.

One thing is sure. Nothing kills like a well intending MD with a
Black bag full of poisons. Something like 1,000 people a day in the
US alone.

Dr. C. PhD.

You made the claim "C" now prove it. I want to se the convictions, the
trials, the sentencing. I want to see the mug shots of these "murderers"
you clain all MD's are.

You can't. Why? Because your claim is a lie. QED

r

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Peter Moran said:

Note how a wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient
wearing shoes and socks, as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

There is nothing incorrect about that. There's a distinction between
wounds that are relatively open and exposed to atmospheric oxygen, and
wounds that are closed and are not oxygenated (the tissues around them
might be, but not the wound itself).

It is true but arguable why open granulating wounds are rarely a source of
tetanus, especially as they are often typically closed off from the air with
bulky dressings, and nowadays very occlusive dressings are advised to keep
the wound moist, as this now known to produce fastest healing.. Burns,
however are prone to tetanus.

The story also referred to a cut, which is not normally an open wound unless
deliberate attempts are made to keep every crevice open.

Peter Moran.

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DRCEEPHD said:

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Subject: Re: Tetanus: the disease versus the vaccine
From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
Date: 12/10/03 3:40 PM Eastern Standard Time
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John must scour the earth to find material as ignorant as this. Note

how a

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wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient wearing shoes and

socks,

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as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

I suggest you do some more reading, and perhaps include understanding and
remembering when you suggest that we do not get oxygen throught our skin.

I do remember the female dying in goldfinger from being painted in gold.

Did

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she or didn't she?

Hey, can I call 'em, or what?

I'm impressed.

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News for you, Chuck: Goldfinger was not a documentary.

The only way the gold paint would work if other factors capable of inducing
heat stroke were present.

Peter Moran

drceephd said:

One thing is sure. Nothing kills like a well intending MD with a
Black bag full of poisons. Something like 1,000 people a day in the
US alone.

How many people are saved by well-intentioned M.D.s in the U.S. each
day?

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I do remember the female dying in goldfinger from being painted in
gold. Did she or didn't she?

No. See <http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/goldfing.htm>.

(DRCEEPHD) said:

I suggest you do some more reading, and perhaps include understanding and
remembering when you suggest that we do not get oxygen throught our skin.

I do remember the female dying in goldfinger from being painted in gold. Did
she or didn't she?

CEE -
Goldfinger was a MOVIE! The actress had her death scene on
screen and recovered as soon as the director said "cut!", ready
for another take.

Tsu Dho Nimh

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politicians invoking morality and children - grab your wallet and/or
your kid and run for your life.

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drceephd said:

One thing is sure. Nothing kills like a well intending MD with a
Black bag full of poisons. Something like 1,000 people a day in the
US alone.

How many people are saved by well-intentioned M.D.s in the U.S. each
day?

Not only has Chuck mischaracterized the situation as MD's poisoning patients,
he has greatly inflated the number of people who die due to medical errors.
Furthermore, he seems to feel that ALL complications & side-effects of
treatment are perpetrated solely by MD's and always on purpose.

Chuck is a very angry [censored] who incidently uses an Asthma inhaler. That shows
you the sincerity & depth of his anti-pharmaceutical convictions.

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Subject: Re: Tetanus: the disease versus the vaccine
From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
Date: 12/10/03 3:40 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

John must scour the earth to find material as ignorant as this. Note how a
wound was "deprived of oxygen" through the patient wearing shoes and socks,
as though we get our oxygen through the skin.

I suggest you do some more reading, and perhaps include understanding and
remembering when you suggest that we do not get oxygen throught our skin.

I do remember the female dying in goldfinger from being painted in gold. Did
she or didn't she?

Uh, the Actress was fine, Chuck. Goldfinger was a work of fiction, much like
your cherished Psycho, uh, Orthopathy.

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Dr. C. PhD.

None! The people's body's do the curing.

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drceephd said:

One thing is sure. Nothing kills like a well intending MD with a
Black bag full of poisons. Something like 1,000 people a day in the
US alone.

How many people are saved by well-intentioned M.D.s in the U.S. each
day?

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Gymmy Bob said:

None! The people's body's do the curing.

How many bodies cure themselves of neoplasms or massive bacterial
infections without a doctor's help?

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