TdF: Wow!

elyob said:

For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Ouch!!

Jan

elyob said:

For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Should that have had the word "Spoiler" in the subject line somewhere?

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For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

helen s

elyob said:

For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Not to mention several soiled commentators boxers :-)

Cheers,
Chris

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For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

If he had finished with his team LA would still have taken the yellow.
The commentry I heard said his team didn't wait for him so it may not have
effected the wearer of the yellow jersey, but we will never know... not sure
I want to watch the crash tonight!

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For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

If he had finished with his team LA would still have taken the yellow.
The commentry I heard said his team didn't wait for him so it may not have
effected the wearer of the yellow jersey, but we will never know... not
sure I want to watch the crash tonight!

Nah. Zabriske coming off caused the team to hesitate. That's what cost them
1st place.

D*mn, d*mn, D*MN!!!!

helen s

wafflycat waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex Zulle...)

And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway.

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wafflycat waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex
Zulle...)

And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway

But not today...

And it's one thing winning when you win, but when you win as a result of
someone else's misfortune, yes, it's a win, but not in the same way.

Cheers, helen s

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wafflycat waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex
Zulle...)

And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway.

Yes, the CSC team should have followed protocol and waited for the yellow
jersey like Ullrich and Armstrong have done ;-)

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elyob said:

For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Should that have had the word "Spoiler" in the subject line somewhere?

Well, I suspect that you shouldn't read the message if it has TdF: in it.
It's bound to be a spoiler of sorts. I brought this subject up prior to the
race. I first saaid 'Spoiler:', then realised it'd be easier to say 'TdF:'
... if you haven't watched it, don't join in the threads.

The subject must also not contain any references to the spoiler within.

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wafflycat waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex
Zulle...)

And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway.

Yes, the CSC team should have followed protocol and waited for the yellow
jersey like Ullrich and Armstrong have done ;-)

but their real team motive is to get Basso higher up the GC, which they
wouldn't have done had they waited.

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Yes, the CSC team should have followed protocol and waited for the yellow
jersey like Ullrich and Armstrong have done ;-)

but their real team motive is to get Basso higher up the GC, which they
wouldn't have done had they waited.

It was a gag --> ;-)

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Yes, the CSC team should have followed protocol and waited for the yellow
jersey like Ullrich and Armstrong have done ;-)

Not when Basso is going for the overall
But damn anyway!#
All the best
Dan Gregory
Maybe there will be a break a la Voeckler tomorrow...

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For sale : One yellow jersey. Slightly soiled, shop damaged.

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result
of another's misfortune :-(

Amen.

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If he had finished with his team LA would still have taken the yellow.

Don't agree. The team definitely slowed up and got ragged after he went
down. I think if he hadn't fallen they would probably have at least
equalled Discovery Channel's time. A distraction in the last Km of a
time trial has to cost two seconds.

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The commentry I heard said his team didn't wait for him so it may not
have effected the wearer of the yellow jersey, but we will never
know... not sure I want to watch the crash tonight!

It was pretty nasty. He was lucky that the rider behind him managed to
miss him, but even so he's going to be hurting like hell tomorrow.

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wafflycat waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex
Zulle...)

And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway

But not today...

And it's one thing winning when you win, but when you win as a result of
someone else's misfortune, yes, it's a win, but not in the same way.

Cheers, helen s

I felt sorry for him BUT was it misfortune? Or carelessness due to being
tired?

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wafflycat <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote:

>Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
>another's misfortune :-(

Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex
Zulle...)

And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway

But not today...

And it's one thing winning when you win, but when you win as a result of
someone else's misfortune, yes, it's a win, but not in the same way.

Cheers, helen s

Yeah. Personly I think Armstrong would not have wanted to win that way.
ANd I suspect it will take some of the thrill away for him. It would
for me anyway.

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I felt sorry for him BUT was it misfortune? Or carelessness due to being
tired?

Same thing really. Trying that hard its easy to make a mistake and
everyone does. Just unlucky to not get away with it.

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>wafflycat <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote:
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>>Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
>>another's misfortune :-(
>
>Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex
>Zulle...)
>
>And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway

But not today...

And it's one thing winning when you win, but when you win as a result of
someone else's misfortune, yes, it's a win, but not in the same way.

Cheers, helen s

Yeah. Personly I think Armstrong would not have wanted to win that way.
ANd I suspect it will take some of the thrill away for him. It would for
me anyway.

Yeah, but I'm sure he won't lose any sleep over it. It's a racing thing.

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I felt sorry for him BUT was it misfortune? Or carelessness due to being
tired?

Same thing really. Trying that hard its easy to make a mistake and
everyone does. Just unlucky to not get away with it.

LA mantioned the concentration could have been a factor. I've never ridden
in a peleton/time trial and am sure that you have to remain in control.
Especially when in the sprint to the end. You wouldn't want to head butt
someone, would you?!

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wafflycat waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:

Damn shame. Pity that currently LA has gained the yellow as a result of
another's misfortune :-(

Not really. Staying on the bike is always part of the game (a-hem, Alex
Zulle...)

And as others have said, Armstrong would have got the jersey anyway

But not today...

And it's one thing winning when you win, but when you win as a result of
someone else's misfortune, yes, it's a win, but not in the same way.

May be LA would have already been in yellow if he didn't have the misfortune
of his foot coming unclipped in the first stage? Ifs and buts don't win
races!

Was it misfortune or a mistake? I bet if the situation was reversed and LA
fell it would have been described as a mistake, it happens to someone else
and LA profits from it and it is called misfortune. Seems everyone hates a
winner!

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Was it misfortune or a mistake? I bet if the situation was reversed and LA
fell it would have been described as a mistake, it happens to someone else
and LA profits from it and it is called misfortune. Seems everyone hates a
winner!

Did I say I hate LA? Err... no.

Cheers, helen s