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  1. Werehatrack said:

    If I were inclined to bet, I'd almost be willing to wager that this is
    an idea that's been tried before. It's amazing how many such
    "marvelous new inventions" turn out to be neither marvelous nor new.

    The biopace rings were first manufactured by Worthingtons in the 1930's.
    When everyone who had tried them had stopped cycling they came back. So
    I would not be surprised to see these come back later.

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist ResIDING in Sweden

  2. Garry Jones said:
    Werehatrack said:

    If I were inclined to bet, I'd almost be willing to wager that this is
    an idea that's been tried before. It's amazing how many such
    "marvelous new inventions" turn out to be neither marvelous nor new.

    The biopace rings were first manufactured by Worthingtons in the 1930's.
    When everyone who had tried them had stopped cycling they came back. So
    I would not be surprised to see these come back later.

    The REALLY funny thing was that the Shimano Biopace rings started out
    really pretty egg-shaped. Then every year, they "improved them" by
    making them a little rounder. Pretty soon, they had re-invented the
    round chainring and we were all back where we started.

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

  3. "Werehatrack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    ... I once had the
    opportunity to directly ask Douglas Adams if he'd made it


    work that

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    way on purpose, having heard that he had not. He confirmed


    that

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    indeed, he'd intended for it *not* to work, and was a bit


    annoyed when

    Quoted message said:

    it was pointed out that it *did*, in base 13. I'd been


    prepared to

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    think that he was being clever, hinting that the real


    problem is that

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    most people just don't look at things in the manner that


    allows them

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    to see the answers that they need, but no, it was nothing so


    subtle

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    after all.

    Thanks for the explanation. It's a good story.

  4. Quoted message said:
    Garry Jones said:
    Quoted message said:

    If I were inclined to bet, I'd almost be willing to wager that this is
    an idea that's been tried before. It's amazing how many such
    "marvelous new inventions" turn out to be neither marvelous nor new.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Werehatrack wrote:
    The biopace rings were first manufactured by Worthingtons in the 1930's.
    When everyone who had tried them had stopped cycling they came back. So
    I would not be surprised to see these come back later.

    Mark Hickey said:

    The REALLY funny thing was that the Shimano Biopace rings started out
    really pretty egg-shaped. Then every year, they "improved them" by
    making them a little rounder. Pretty soon, they had re-invented the
    round chainring and we were all back where we started.

    That's funny! In fairness, there were only Biopace and the
    rounder Biopace II (each came in 2 quality grades)

    Ya gotta hand it to Shoji Onozawa for renaming his
    'old-fashioned' SR-Sakae rings "Round Tech" during the
    Biopace years.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  5. My wife has trouble walking up stairs with her cane. Do you think a spring
    might help? The idea would be that the spring would absorb some of her peak
    energy output, and deliver it at another part of her stride.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Leo Lichtman said:

    My wife has trouble walking up stairs with her cane. Do you think a spring
    might help? The idea would be that the spring would absorb some of her peak
    energy output, and deliver it at another part of her stride.

    When my (late) dad had trouble getting up and down stairs
    with his polymyocitis, he rigged up something that was
    basically a block of wood half the height of a stair riser,
    to step on with one foot. It had a long, upright handle
    for moving it from step to step. With it he could take
    the stairs sort of a half-step at a time, using the railing
    rather than his cane for support on the way up or down.
    It served him well. No springs in it, though.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
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    Above address is just a spam midden.
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  7. Garry Jones said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.


    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Quoted message said:


    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain


    rings?

    Quoted message said:


    ....and I thought I'd seen it all!

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist, ResIDING in Sweden

    When a mountain climber at high altitude with a heavy pack takes a
    step, it is a quick step with a rest after that. If you want to lift
    something heavy you try to do it as fast as you can. You would not try
    to spend a long time holding something heavy. Sometimes muscles like to
    to work in small spurts with rests instead of long continuous output. A
    rider could use this crankset to spin high rpm normally while also
    having the option to hammer at low rpm. It is not comparable to
    Biopace. An easier way to get this "suspended chainring" effect is to
    devise a pulley on a spring tensioned lever on the drive side of the
    chain. It can always be disengaged for efficient spinning. I have been
    meaning to try more experiments with this.

  8. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:22:26 -0600, Werehatrack
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?


    There isn't one.

    I beg to differ. The existence of fools and money, and the
    well-publicised ease of parting the latter from the former, is surely
    justification enough.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  9. On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:41:25 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"

    may have said:

    On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:22:26 -0600, Werehatrack
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?


    There isn't one.

    I beg to differ. The existence of fools and money, and the
    well-publicised ease of parting the latter from the former, is surely
    justification enough.

    For that, there is no need to even have a product, as is demonstrated
    on a minute-by-minute basis on eBay.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
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