"Garry Jones" wrote: (clip) Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-) Very neat design. Serves the useful purpose of turning a profit. If the manufacturer is lucky, and the bicycling public is gullible, they may recover their tooling costs. If we're smart, it will go the way of Biopace chain rings.
"Garry Jones" wrote: (clip) Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-) Very neat design. Serves the useful purpose of turning a profit. If the manufacturer is lucky, and the bicycling public is gullible, they may recover their tooling costs. If we're smart, it will go the way of Biopace chain rings.
Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
....and I thought I'd seen it all!
I thought there was something like this a few years ago too. The explanation was something to do with the springs storing energy whilst on the downward power stroke, and releasing it on the upward return stroke of a normal pedalling action. This helps, the claim went, to iron out the power impulses inherent from pedalling. I'd guess this acts a bit like the 'cush drive' in motorcycle rear wheels.
I can't find a link for it now though. 🙂
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Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
....and I thought I'd seen it all!
I thought there was something like this a few years ago too. The explanation was something to do with the springs storing energy whilst on the downward power stroke, and releasing it on the upward return stroke of a normal pedalling action. This helps, the claim went, to iron out the power impulses inherent from pedalling. I'd guess this acts a bit like the 'cush drive' in motorcycle rear wheels.
I can't find a link for it now though. 🙂
-- The Caretaker. www.4x4prejudice.org A balanced argument.
It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical. Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.
It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical. Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.
Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
There isn't one.
It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston engine does.
The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove that it was not a good one...and denying the results.
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Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
There isn't one.
It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston engine does.
The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove that it was not a good one...and denying the results.
-- My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove that it was not a good one...and denying the results.
Amazing statement in a thread that's not about helmets....
The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove that it was not a good one...and denying the results.
Amazing statement in a thread that's not about helmets....
Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
This is a joke, and obviously for oldsters who want to put a little bounce in their stride on the bicycle. It goes with hair restorer and other such gimmicks. Geritol works wonders!
Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
This is a joke, and obviously for oldsters who want to put a little bounce in their stride on the bicycle. It goes with hair restorer and other such gimmicks. Geritol works wonders!
Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
There isn't one.
It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston engine does.
The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove that it was not a good one...and denying the results.
I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get written.
Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.
Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
There isn't one.
It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston engine does.
The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove that it was not a good one...and denying the results.
I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get written.
Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:44:14 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>
may have said:
I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get written.
The more conventional approach (if you want Shakespeare, hire him) is lost on the average tinkerer.
Quoted message said:
Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.
Before you can get the answer to be 42, you must know what base to use for the problem. (13, in this case.)
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:44:14 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>
may have said:
I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get written.
The more conventional approach (if you want Shakespeare, hire him) is lost on the average tinkerer.
Quoted message said:
Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.
Before you can get the answer to be 42, you must know what base to use for the problem. (13, in this case.)
-- My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical. Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.
Flawed theory. The problem behind it should be obvious.
All those springs will do in this application is convert a little of the rider's energy to heat via flexing, if sufficient force is applied.
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It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical. Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.
Flawed theory. The problem behind it should be obvious.
All those springs will do in this application is convert a little of the rider's energy to heat via flexing, if sufficient force is applied.
-- My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?
This is a joke, and obviously for oldsters who want to put a little bounce in their stride on the bicycle. It goes with hair restorer and other such gimmicks....
Judging from this thread, the crankset in question functions admirably as a conversation piece.