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  1. Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?

    .....and I thought I'd seen it all!

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist, ResIDING in Sweden

  2. "Garry Jones" wrote: (clip) Can anyone explain the need for suspension
    springs in the chain rings?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    :-) Very neat design. Serves the useful purpose of turning a profit. If
    the manufacturer is lucky, and the bicycling public is gullible, they may
    recover their tooling costs. If we're smart, it will go the way of Biopace
    chain rings.

  3. "Garry Jones" wrote: (clip) Can anyone explain the need for suspension
    springs in the chain rings?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    :-) Very neat design. Serves the useful purpose of turning a profit. If
    the manufacturer is lucky, and the bicycling public is gullible, they may
    recover their tooling costs. If we're smart, it will go the way of Biopace
    chain rings.

  4. Garry Jones composed the following;:

    Quoted message said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?

    ....and I thought I'd seen it all!

    I thought there was something like this a few years ago too. The
    explanation was something to do with the springs storing energy whilst
    on the downward power stroke, and releasing it on the upward return
    stroke of a normal pedalling action. This helps, the claim went, to
    iron out the power impulses inherent from pedalling. I'd guess this
    acts a bit like the 'cush drive' in motorcycle rear wheels.

    I can't find a link for it now though. 🙂

    --
    The Caretaker.
    www.4x4prejudice.org
    A balanced argument.

  5. Garry Jones composed the following;:

    Quoted message said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?

    ....and I thought I'd seen it all!

    I thought there was something like this a few years ago too. The
    explanation was something to do with the springs storing energy whilst
    on the downward power stroke, and releasing it on the upward return
    stroke of a normal pedalling action. This helps, the claim went, to
    iron out the power impulses inherent from pedalling. I'd guess this
    acts a bit like the 'cush drive' in motorcycle rear wheels.

    I can't find a link for it now though. 🙂

    --
    The Caretaker.
    www.4x4prejudice.org
    A balanced argument.

  6. re: BikeDrive chainrings

    It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so
    claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then
    cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical.
    Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.

  7. re: BikeDrive chainrings

    It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so
    claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then
    cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical.
    Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.

  8. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:40:48 +0100, Garry Jones <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?

    There isn't one.

    It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the
    spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the
    springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their
    functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not
    engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston
    engine does.

    The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in
    fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove
    that it was not a good one...and denying the results.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  9. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:40:48 +0100, Garry Jones <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?

    There isn't one.

    It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the
    spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the
    springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their
    functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not
    engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston
    engine does.

    The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in
    fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove
    that it was not a good one...and denying the results.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  10. Werehatrack said:

    The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in
    fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove
    that it was not a good one...and denying the results.

    Amazing statement in a thread that's not about helmets....

    (yet)

    🙂

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist ResIDING in Sweden

  11. Werehatrack said:

    The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in
    fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove
    that it was not a good one...and denying the results.

    Amazing statement in a thread that's not about helmets....

    (yet)

    🙂

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist ResIDING in Sweden

  12. Garry Jones said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://tinyurl.com/4vnay

    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain
    rings?

    This is a joke, and obviously for oldsters who want to put a little
    bounce in their stride on the bicycle. It goes with hair restorer and
    other such gimmicks. Geritol works wonders!

    http://geritol.com/

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  13. Garry Jones said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://tinyurl.com/4vnay

    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain
    rings?

    This is a joke, and obviously for oldsters who want to put a little
    bounce in their stride on the bicycle. It goes with hair restorer and
    other such gimmicks. Geritol works wonders!

    http://geritol.com/

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  14. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:22:26 -0600, Werehatrack <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:40:48 +0100, Garry Jones <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?

    There isn't one.

    It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the
    spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the
    springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their
    functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not
    engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston
    engine does.

    The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in
    fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove
    that it was not a good one...and denying the results.

    I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go
    banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality
    of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get
    written.

    Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.

    Ron

  15. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:22:26 -0600, Werehatrack <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:40:48 +0100, Garry Jones <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://www.hisingensck.se/texter-bilder/ovrigt/2005/bilder/050129/IMAG0154_stor.jpg

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain rings?

    There isn't one.

    It's possible that this may have been done in emulation of the
    spring-equipped hubs of automotive engine clutch discs, where the
    springs have a very definite level of usefulness...but their
    functionality here is questionable at best. The human leg does not
    engage in the same kind of power production cycle that the piston
    engine does.

    The mere fact that an idea has no valid basis and is nonsensical in
    fact will not prevent some people from spending the money to prove
    that it was not a good one...and denying the results.

    I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go
    banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality
    of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get
    written.

    Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.

    Ron

  16. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:44:14 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go
    banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality
    of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get
    written.

    The more conventional approach (if you want Shakespeare, hire him) is
    lost on the average tinkerer.

    Quoted message said:

    Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.

    Before you can get the answer to be 42, you must know what base to use
    for the problem. (13, in this case.)

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  17. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:44:14 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    I consider it part of the monkey principle. If all of us monkeys don't go
    banging our typewriters with enthusiasm, oblivious to the obvious nonsensicality
    of monkeys banging on typewriters, then that Shakespearean sonnet will never get
    written.

    The more conventional approach (if you want Shakespeare, hire him) is
    lost on the average tinkerer.

    Quoted message said:

    Or the answer won't come out to be 42. However you want to look at it.

    Before you can get the answer to be 42, you must know what base to use
    for the problem. (13, in this case.)

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  18. On 30 Jan 2005 11:18:52 -0800, "Brian Huntley"

    may have said:

    re: BikeDrive chainrings

    It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so
    claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then
    cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical.
    Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.

    Flawed theory. The problem behind it should be obvious.

    All those springs will do in this application is convert a little of
    the rider's energy to heat via flexing, if sufficient force is
    applied.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  19. On 30 Jan 2005 11:18:52 -0800, "Brian Huntley"

    may have said:

    re: BikeDrive chainrings

    It's not a suspension, it's a device to improve efficiency (so
    claimed.) It's supposed to even out the power, storing it when then
    cranks are horizontal, and releasing it when they're vertical.
    Sort of like Biopace with moving parts.

    Flawed theory. The problem behind it should be obvious.

    All those springs will do in this application is convert a little of
    the rider's energy to heat via flexing, if sufficient force is
    applied.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  20. Quoted message said:
    Garry Jones said:

    Amazingly, this is not a joke.

    http://tinyurl.com/4vnay

    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone explain the need for suspension springs in the chain
    rings?

    This is a joke, and obviously for oldsters who want to put a little
    bounce in their stride on the bicycle. It goes with hair restorer and
    other such gimmicks....

    Judging from this thread, the crankset in question functions admirably
    as a conversation piece.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth

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