Stage 8

Bob Schwartz said:

The Giro visits Passo Lanciano:

This is a new destination for the Giro, the
race has not been here before.

Actually, it has been, but it continued to finish at the Blockhouse in
at least two years, 1968 and 1972. In the latter one, Jose Manuel
Fuente took the stage and his first maglia rosa. He was not the first
Spanish rider to do it -Botella, Poblet and Julio Jimenez had wore the
pink jersey before- but Fuente soon became, with 8 stage wins, the most
successful Spaniard in the Giro, and the one that lead the race for the
most days, a distinction that kept until Indurain decided riding -and
winning- the Giro was the best way to prepare the Tour in 1992.

Jenko

Jenko said:

Bob Schwartz said:

The Giro visits Passo Lanciano:

This is a new destination for the Giro, the
race has not been here before.

Actually, it has been, but it continued to finish at the Blockhouse in
at least two years, 1968 and 1972. In the latter one, Jose Manuel
Fuente took the stage and his first maglia rosa. He was not the first
Spanish rider to do it -Botella, Poblet and Julio Jimenez had wore the
pink jersey before- but Fuente soon became, with 8 stage wins, the most
successful Spaniard in the Giro, and the one that lead the race for the
most days, a distinction that kept until Indurain decided riding -and
winning- the Giro was the best way to prepare the Tour in 1992.

Jenko

Dude! You are correct on all counts!

And you've inspired a great trivia question.

Bob Schwartz

Jenko said:

Bob Schwartz said:

The Giro visits Passo Lanciano:

This is a new destination for the Giro, the
race has not been here before.

Actually, it has been, but it continued to finish at the Blockhouse in
at least two years, 1968 and 1972.

The first stage finish at that location was in 1967,
on May 31st. 1967 was a year of brief overlap.
Something happened on that date that would be
repeated many, many times.

And a few days later on June 4th, something that had
happened many, many times before happened for one
last time.

What were the two events?

Bob Schwartz said:

The first stage finish at that location was in 1967,
on May 31st. 1967 was a year of brief overlap.
Something happened on that date that would be
repeated many, many times.

And a few days later on June 4th, something that had
happened many, many times before happened for one
last time.

What were the two events?

The stage winner sprayed the podium girls. And one podium girl lost
her virginity, prompting them to finally remove the requirement that
all podium girls be virgins. This put paid to that and raised the
average looks of the podium girls at the same time.

Am I close? Do I get a Cadbury bar?

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Curtis L. Russell said:

Am I close? Do I get a Cadbury bar?

No, only heather can dispense cadbury bars. Even her bf doesn't get
enough.

Bob Schwartz said:

The first stage finish at that location was in 1967,
on May 31st. 1967 was a year of brief overlap.
Something happened on that date that would be
repeated many, many times.

And a few days later on June 4th, something that had
happened many, many times before happened for one
last time.

What were the two events?

The first is easy to guess, but the second is harder.
J.A.?

Where do you mine all this information from?
It must be quite comprehensive - I have a couple of the
usual coffee-table Tour books, but they don't even list
all the stage winners, let alone the start/finish, let
alone do it for the Giro.

Ben

Quoted message said:

Where do you mine all this information from?

I get it delivered daily via black helicopter.

Bob Schwartz

Quoted message said:

Bob Schwartz wrote:
...

Quoted message said:

What were the two events?

The first is easy to guess, but the second is harder.
J.A.?

Where do you mine all this information from?
...
Ben

I found the answer to the first part at infostrada (tho I'd already
guessed it). I think you're on the right track with the second, but I
don't know the answer (yet).

*returns to the search*

Good trivia.

E

Quoted message said:

but the second is harder.
J.A.?

the last time he took the maglia rosa on a stage? (i'm too lazy and too
dumb to do much work on this, i like it better when bob tells me a
story instead of giving me homework)

Quoted message said:

Where do you mine all this information from?

if you can't get bob's helicopters to drop by, this site has some useful
stuff.

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/

hh

Bob Schwartz said:

Jenko said:

Bob Schwartz said:

The Giro visits Passo Lanciano:

This is a new destination for the Giro, the
race has not been here before.

Actually, it has been, but it continued to finish at the Blockhouse in
at least two years, 1968 and 1972.

The first stage finish at that location was in 1967,
on May 31st. 1967 was a year of brief overlap.
Something happened on that date that would be
repeated many, many times.

The 1967 Giro marked the first appearance for Merckx
in a Grand Tour.

Riding for Peugeot he had had a good spring, winning
Milan-San Remo, Ghent-Wevelgem, and the Fleche-Wallonne.
In the Giro he took the stage to Block Haus della
Majella, the first Grand Tour stage win for the rider
that would win more than any other.

He would finish 9th that year, and had the idea that
he might have a future as a stage racer in addition
to the classics.

Anquetil finished in the front group on that stage,
and moved well up the standings.

Quoted message said:

And a few days later on June 4th, something that had
happened many, many times before happened for one
last time.

OK, the correct answer to this is 'Dumbass you got the
date wrong.' On the 4th was a TT in Verona, won by Ole
Ritter. Anquetil was only 6 seconds back, and that was
enough to take the pink jersey. It was... his second
last day spent as the leader of a Grand Tour. A group
got away on the next stage and the lightly regarded
Silvano Schiavon took the lead.

I missed Stage 20, a nasty stage from Cortina d'Ampezzo
to Trento. Anquetil regained the lead, but it was clear
that Gimondi was the better rider. Anquetil crumbled on
the Tonale the following day. There was no mineral water
that would help.

In 1968 Merckx would win the Giro, and Anquetil would be
retired. The torch had passed.

I'm sorry if anyone spent a lot of time focused on the
4th. Never drink and post.

And congratulations to heather.

Bob Schwartz

h squared said:

Quoted message said:

Where do you mine all this information from?

if you can't get bob's helicopters to drop by, this site has some useful
stuff.

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/

This is a good site as well:
http://www.cvccbike.com/giro/giro_winners.html

I also have a good stable of coffee table books and
the Infostrada CD. This was sold a number of years
by VeloNews in the US and has an astounding
database of rider palmares.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz said:

Never drink and post.

?! That's just crazy talk. Must be the liquor doing the talking. 😉

R

Bob Schwartz said:

Riding for Peugeot he had had a good spring, winning
Milan-San Remo, Ghent-Wevelgem, and the Fleche-Wallonne.

For most pros, that's also a pretty good year. For many, a career.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Bob Schwartz said:

OK, the correct answer to this is 'Dumbass you got the
date wrong.' On the 4th was a TT in Verona, won by Ole
Ritter. Anquetil was only 6 seconds back, and that was
enough to take the pink jersey. It was... his second
last day spent as the leader of a Grand Tour. A group
got away on the next stage and the lightly regarded
Silvano Schiavon took the lead.

I missed Stage 20, a nasty stage from Cortina d'Ampezzo
to Trento. Anquetil regained the lead, but it was clear
that Gimondi was the better rider. Anquetil crumbled on
the Tonale the following day. There was no mineral water
that would help.

In 1968 Merckx would win the Giro, and Anquetil would be
retired. The torch had passed.

I'm sorry if anyone spent a lot of time focused on the
4th. Never drink and post.

And congratulations to heather.

the only reason i got anywhere near the right answer is 1) i hire
excellent assistants 🙂

and 2) i am a dumbass. when i saw the final date of that year's giro
listed as 11/06/1967, i read the date "american style" and i counted up
from the bottom of the stage list, allowing stage22a&b to be the 6th,
and arriving at stage 20 as happening on the 4th. even though i know,
theoretically, how to read european dates, and i even told myself to
remember to read the date backwards from normal before i started
counting. sigh.

blonde squared