speed limit

Simon Brooke said:

No. There is no speed limit for bicycles, except on some private roads
(e.g. Richmond Park).

So I can speed with impunity as long as I'm not pedalling 'furiously' !

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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 20:55:09 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Whaley
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

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So I can speed with impunity as long as I'm not pedalling 'furiously' !

Or committing the new offences of careless or dangerous cycling. I
have a suspicion that the picturesque offence of furious riding has
gone the way of the death penalty for piracy...

Guy
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Quoted message said:

Simon Brooke said:

No. There is no speed limit for bicycles, except on some private roads
(e.g. Richmond Park).

So I can speed with impunity as long as I'm not pedalling 'furiously' !

Indeed. It has long been an ambition of mine to be summonsed for "furious
riding" to be framed on the wall.

Quoted message said:

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Just zis Guy said:

Or committing the new offences of careless or dangerous cycling. I
have a suspicion that the picturesque offence of furious riding has
gone the way of the death penalty for piracy...

Tony Adams was successfully prosecuted for riding furiously in Cambridge
in 1997. http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/14/article14.html

Tony

Dan Gregory said:

The most repeated one I have heard concerned Ralph Richardson (as told
by himself).
When returning from the theatre to Hampstead on his motorecyle after a
show, he was stopped by a young policeman.
"Could you tell me your name please sir" he said to the septugenarian
motorcyclist.
"Ralph Richardson" he replied.
Plod turned to the other old gent in the sidecar and said "Who are you
then? Lawrence Olivier?"
"How kind of you to recognise me dear boy" he enunciated....

Alistair Cooke was accosted by someone who said did he know he looked
just like of Alistair Cooke. The inimitable Mr Cooke assured him that
yes he did know and that in fact his mother had been the first to notice
the resemblance.

Tony

Tony Raven said:

Dan Gregory wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The most repeated one I have heard concerned Ralph Richardson (as told
by himself).
When returning from the theatre to Hampstead on his motorecyle after a
show, he was stopped by a young policeman.
"Could you tell me your name please sir" he said to the septugenarian
motorcyclist.
"Ralph Richardson" he replied.
Plod turned to the other old gent in the sidecar and said "Who are you
then? Lawrence Olivier?"
"How kind of you to recognise me dear boy" he enunciated....

Quoted message said:

Alistair Cooke was accosted by someone who said did he know he looked
just like of Alistair Cooke. The inimitable Mr Cooke assured him that
yes he did know and that in fact his mother had been the first to notice
the resemblance.

Stirling Moss enjoyed telling the story of the policeman who said "Who
do you think you are then, Stirling Moss?"

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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:50:36 +0000, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

wrote in message : said:

Tony Adams was successfully prosecuted for riding furiously in Cambridge
in 1997. http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/14/article14.html

But that was way back when Tony Blair was the shining hope for British
democracy and fair play :-)

Guy
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blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:25:17 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Chris

Malcolm) said:

Tony Raven <[email hidden]> writes:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Alistair Cooke was accosted by someone who said did he know he looked
just like of Alistair Cooke. The inimitable Mr Cooke assured him that
yes he did know and that in fact his mother had been the first to notice
the resemblance.

Stirling Moss enjoyed telling the story of the policeman who said "Who
do you think you are then, Stirling Moss?"

A colleague of mine, Nigel Hopwood, bore a strong resemblance to David
Gower. He was in a taxi once, and the driver insisted that he must be
the cricketer. Eventually Nigel conceded that, yes, he was David
Gower, as this was the only way to stop the driver badgering him. I
imagine that ever after the driver's passengers would have been
regaled with, "'I 'ad that David Gower in my cab once. Tried to make
out 'e was in computers."

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Dave...

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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:10:14 -0000 someone who may be Jon Senior
<jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Nah. There is a 15mph limit for cyclists over the Forth Road Bridge (On
the cycle / pedestrian bits at the sides.

The white paint can only be to advise motorists on the
cycle/pedestrian paths that there are cycles around and they are not
to drive at more than 15mph.

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prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

David Hansen [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

The white paint can only be to advise motorists on the
cycle/pedestrian paths that there are cycles around and they are not
to drive at more than 15mph.

;-)

I'm not so sure. Is the bridge "public"? Does that include the walkways?
If it is private then I guess they could merrily impose a speed limit
for bikes.

Jon

Jon Senior said:

David Hansen [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

The white paint can only be to advise motorists on the
cycle/pedestrian paths that there are cycles around and they are not
to drive at more than 15mph.

;-)

I'm not so sure. Is the bridge "public"? Does that include the walkways?
If it is private then I guess they could merrily impose a speed limit
for bikes.

Its not a public highway which is where the motorised vehicle speed
limits apply. Its a footway from which bicycles are normally banned.
However, like the promenade at Bournemouth, permission can be given to
use it with a bicycle and conditions attached to that permission. This
is very different from the public highway where you have a right to ride
a bicycle at any speed that is not careless or dangerous. The only
"roads" where there can be speed limits on bikes are private roads,
where again permission comes into the equation. The Royal Park roads
are such roads and do have bicycle speed limits

Tony

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 08:00:21 -0000 someone who may be Jon Senior
<jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Is the bridge "public"? Does that include the walkways?

It is rather more public than royal parks.

Quoted message said:

If it is private then I guess they could merrily impose a speed limit
for bikes.

The old bridge board demonstrated its anti-bike credentials in many
ways. I assume the current setup is as unenlightened.

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prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven <junk@raven-
family.com> writes

Quoted message said:

a bicycle at any speed that is not careless or dangerous. The only
"roads" where there can be speed limits on bikes are private roads,
where again permission comes into the equation. The Royal Park roads
are such roads and do have bicycle speed limits

Tony

Any idea what constitutes a "Royal Park"? I cycle in Windsor Great Park
quite a lot and have seen nothing other than the 38 mph speed limit
signs.

--
Peter Grange

Peter Grange said:

Any idea what constitutes a "Royal Park"? I cycle in Windsor Great Park
quite a lot and have seen nothing other than the 38 mph speed limit
signs.

They are any of the Royal Parks http://www.royalparks.gov.uk/. Windsor
Park is not one of them. Its a Crown Estate and as such private land on
which the owner can put whatever limits they wish.

The speeds are (from The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Regulations
1997 Schedule 2 PartII)
:
Speeds at which vehicles may be driven or ridden on a Park road

1. On the Park roads in Bushy Park, Greenwich Park, Hyde Park
(except for the Serpentine Road), The Regent's Park, Richmond Park and
St. James's and The Green Parks, at a speed not exceeding 30 m.p.h.

2. On the Serpentine Road in Hyde Park, and on the Park road from
Kingston Gate leading to the Home Park Golf Club in Hampton Court Park,
at a speed not exceeding 15 m.p.h.

3. On any Park road (other than one mentioned in paragraphs 1 or 2
above) at a speed not exceeding 10 m.p.h.

Richmond Park has since been reduced to 20mph

Tony

Tony Raven said:

... private land on which the owner can put whatever limits they
wish...

....but exceeding such limits is, presumbly, not a criminal offence.

In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven <junk@raven-
family.com> writes

Quoted message said:

Peter Grange said:

Any idea what constitutes a "Royal Park"? I cycle in Windsor Great Park
quite a lot and have seen nothing other than the 38 mph speed limit
signs.

They are any of the Royal Parks http://www.royalparks.gov.uk/. Windsor
Park is not one of them. Its a Crown Estate and as such private land on
which the owner can put whatever limits they wish.

Thanks Tony
--
Peter Grange

Paul Rudin said:

Tony Raven said:

... private land on which the owner can put whatever limits they
wish...

....but exceeding such limits is, presumbly, not a criminal offence.

Her Madge just lops your head off instead ;-)

Tony

Tony Raven [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Its not a public highway which is where the motorised vehicle speed
limits apply. Its a footway from which bicycles are normally banned.
However, like the promenade at Bournemouth, permission can be given to
use it with a bicycle and conditions attached to that permission.

An interesting interpretation. It may even be correct. ;-)

Given the lack of enforcement and the fact that I tend to ride slower
than the limit up the hill and only go significantly faster on the
descent if there is a clear run, it doesn't really concern me.

Jon