Some Tasty Items..

Originally posted by flyingdutch
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are these what you got Suzy? (and what did you fork out?

Mine are same shape, but grey rather than black, and rather more bea
up. I paid $22

Regards

Suz

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Apologies Drs, I wasn't aware of the links messing up on newsreaders.
Could you tell me if the following links (without url tags) work?

http://www.onecer.net/abbotsfordcycles/trekking-bars.html

http://rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/

http://www.modolo.com/

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=9910&stc=1

http://www.sanrio.com/main/calendar/2004/march.gif

Every one is fine. I don't know what you did at your end but that's the way
links are supposed to appear. I wish someone at cyclingforums would do
something about the fact that their Usenet interface regularly buggers up
the reference ids so posts don't thread properly, as well as regularly
buggering up links so they are unusable.

FWIW, I'm seriously interested in the trekking bars at Abbortsford Cycles.
I went over to Richmond this afternoon to check them out. Some points:

- Unfortunately he only has black in stock, with no prospect of getting any
silver ones for some months. (Would it be feasible to spray them silver or
would paint last about two seconds once you started bolting things on?)

- What's not clear from the photo is the degree of drop from "far side" to
"near", they're not flat as they seem to be although by no stretch of the
imagination could they be called drop bars. They strike me as being very
much a poor man's triathlon bar - exactly what I'm looking for.

- The brakes/shifters/grips are supposed to be attached at the near side (as
per the photo at the bikeforums.net link) but I reckon (and the guys there
agreed with me) that you could mount them forward. They didn't have any set
up on a bike so I could check them out in situ but they said to come back on
Monday as they were going to put a pair on a second-hand MTB for people to
try out. Speaking of that image, what the hell has he wrapped around the
bars?

- The near side could be too close and therefore the seating position too
upright for some people. I've already changed the angle of my stem to push
my current handlebars forward a couple of centimetres and the way these
things wrap around I personally don't fancy trying to, for example, brake
hard whilst sitting ridiculously upright. I won't commit to this without
actually trying them out but they could necessitate a change to a longer
stem for many people (including myself).

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Mucked up that last post to CF, an answer was contained in the quote,
read below, hope it makes sense now.

Originally posted by gescom cfsmtb, Is the width ok because they look
(http://www.bikeforums.net/attachmen...ntid=9910&stc=1 really wide?

Just measured them, 62cm = outside measurement. My partners dually =
65cm and Single speed = 70cm No problem for me, considering one has
narrow shoulders.

Regarding the width, the guy at Abbotsford Cycles was annoyed that the
latest batch were only about half a centimetre wider than the old stock as
opposed to the two centimetres wider he wanted. That would indicate he's
after a 64 - 65cm bar.

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
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Originally posted by eddiec Just installed a set of the cheaper Profil
ones (scored second hand from Bicycle Recycle) on my about-to-be-rebor

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hardtail commuter..

They didn't have any more of them did they? Any other funky stuff i
that shop (never been there myself)

"reborn" hardtail commuter? Do tell..

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BTW - Was in SHM in Bourke St yesterday and they're closing down - s
stuff is going chea

I don't get into the city much (at least not before dark 😉) and i
seems I always forget about the city stores.. my loss. My lbs fixes m
up with most stuff, but there is a lot of the more boutique stuff
never even see.

Has anyone ordered from Rivendell before

hipp

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Originally posted by Drs (Would it be feasible to spray them silver o
would paint last about two seconds once you started bolting things on?

In my experience, spray painting them would be pointless. Even whe
covered with something it would wear off rather quickly. You really nee
them anodized. Maybe powdercoated but I don't know much about it
durability

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The brakes/shifters/grips are supposed to be attached at the near sid
but I reckon that you could mount them forward

You'd have to check that you don't take away all your hand-space at th
far side of the bar. That shifter pod looks like it would take up a fai
portion of your grip room on the far side

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Speaking of that image, what the hell has he wrapped around the bars

Just looks like well padded bar tape to me.

If you have a normal mtb flat bar, this setup looks like it should b
pushed out further with a longer stem. Guess it depends on how stretche
you currently are compared to where you want to move to

hipp

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Originally posted by Drs (Would it be feasible to spray them silver
or would paint last about two seconds once you started bolting
things on?)

In my experience, spray painting them would be pointless. Even when
covered with something it would wear off rather quickly. You really
need them anodized. Maybe powdercoated but I don't know much about its
durability.

Can you reanodize? The black would look quite out of place on my bike.

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The brakes/shifters/grips are supposed to be attached at the near
side but I reckon that you could mount them forward.

You'd have to check that you don't take away all your hand-space at
the far side of the bar. That shifter pod looks like it would take up
a fair portion of your grip room on the far side.

The thickness off the wrapping makes the whole thing look smaller than it
is. I'd love to spend a weekend playing around with it. I really don't see
the point of the way he's set it up even though it's the recommended way.
I've already got a sit up and beg setup - I want to lean forward. You can
set them up so that you rest your forearms on the near side - hence the
"poor man's tri-bar" - but I hate to think of the consequences if you're
leaning forward, hands at the front and something happened and you neded
quick access to the brakes - how can you react quickly enough with that
setup? At the very least, for its faults at least with my current setup my
brake levers are always within easy reach.

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

Here's the link to forum thread with the picture of the trekking bars http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=44522 . The guy (velonomad) used "pipe insulation wrapped with tressor cloth handlebar tape I sealed the tape with scotch guard".

Thanks for the info on the handlebar width guys, they might just be a
bit too wide considering my current bars are about the 50cm mark!
Getting the right stem setup would be tricky also.

As for spraypainting them would it be possible to sand them down to
silver and then spraypaint? If the paint gets scratched it would be
hard to tell.

Here's another pic of the Gaansari fixie hippy posted in this thread:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=47341

Some incredible pics, especially the Calvin and Hobbes lug work.
Talk about perfectionists. Just need a hello kitty version for
cfsmtb then. 🙂

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Here's the link to forum thread with the picture of the trekking bars
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=44522 . The guy
(velonomad) used "pipe insulation wrapped with tressor cloth
handlebar tape I sealed the tape with scotch guard".

I reckon I'd want them the exact opposite way around. Check out these
photos:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile_moreimages.cfm?category=92&subcategory=1049&sku=9756&brand=

If the top of each image is the front then I'd be wanting something like the
top photo, not the bottom (which corresponds to the image you linked to).

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Thanks for the info on the handlebar width guys, they might just be a
bit too wide considering my current bars are about the 50cm mark!
Getting the right stem setup would be tricky also.

I'll check on the width next time I'm at Abbotsford Cycles.

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As for spraypainting them would it be possible to sand them down to
silver and then spraypaint? If the paint gets scratched it would be
hard to tell.

There are places which will anodize metal stuff for you. That'd probably be
preferable.

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

DRS said:

I reckon I'd want them the exact opposite way around. Check out these
photos:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile_moreimages.cfm?category=92&subcategory=1049&sku=9756&brand=

If the top of each image is the front then I'd be wanting something like
the top photo, not the bottom (which corresponds to the image you linked
to).

I have a set of these on my touring/general bike, which I bought in
Germany while on tour. They're pretty heavy, but I love 'em.

Christies was selling them for a while, that's how the got tandem them,
and indeed, the stoker's are around 'backwards'. The only problem with
this, is they have a bit of a bend to them - a 3 dimensional bend. So if
you lay them flat, they aren't... this does limit the adjustability in
reverse.

cheers,
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hippy said:

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Originally posted by eddiec Just installed a set of the cheaper Profile
ones (scored second hand from Bicycle Recycle) on my about-to-be-reborn

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hardtail commuter...

They didn't have any more of them did they? Any other funky stuff in
that shop (never been there myself)?
"reborn" hardtail commuter? Do tell...
hippy

Nope, I got the last set - sorry!! I was impressed with the store,
have to admit... Not as cheap as I expected (lots of tasty but stil
quite pricey road bikes especially (Do you roadies change bikes every
months or something??!?)), but some nice surprises if you rummage aroun
enough... I shall be returning to look for a set of rigid threadles
forks for the commuter..

Speaking of which, yes, the hardtail commuter is a step along. Thes
bars got installed yesterday and I've experimented with mounting the ol
vbrake levers and shifter pods up on the ends, which seems to work, i
looking a little bit mutant with long loops of cable! First ride felt
bit weird, with the bar position now being so much narrower and furthe
forward - a bit twitchy when pushing out of the saddle - but I thin
that's probably more something to just get used to (Is it??) The nex
steps will be knocking it down to one chainring and 7 spds to drop som
weight and complexity and add some SKS mudguards for the approachin
winter... But so far it's looking good and I'll be trialling i
tomorrow. I can thank you guys for the motivation in rebuilding thi
one! (Although my experiment with the 50yr old Malvern Star 3spd didn'
quite work so well! pity...

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Can you reanodize? The black would look quite out of place on my bike.

I've never heard of it being done. I would think that the
cost would make it a poor option. Aren't they going to
get any more silver bars in? Could another place get
them for you?

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The thickness off the wrapping makes the whole thing look smaller than it
is. I'd love to spend a weekend playing around with it. I really don't

see

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the point of the way he's set it up even though it's the recommended way.
I've already got a sit up and beg setup - I want to lean forward. You can

What about those little bars that look like mini-aero
bars (bar-ends that aren't on the end?) that you could
mount inboard of the brakes?
Or, have you thought about trying full-on aero bars
and fitting another set of brakes to them so you
always have easy access to your brakes no matter
which position you choose?

hippy

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Can you reanodize? The black would look quite out of place on my
bike.

I've never heard of it being done. I would think that the
cost would make it a poor option. Aren't they going to
get any more silver bars in? Could another place get
them for you?

He's not getting silver ones in for ages, not unless people sudenly buy all
his stock before Friday and he does another order instead of in six months
time. I've been looking at the Modolo site as an alternative because they
have several variations but it's too damn hard to tell the often subtle
differences from those images. The Australian Modolo distributor doesn't
keep the trekking bars in stock anyway.

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The thickness off the wrapping makes the whole thing look smaller
than it is. I'd love to spend a weekend playing around with it. I
really don't see the point of the way he's set it up even though
it's the recommended way. I've already got a sit up and beg setup -
I want to lean forward. You can

What about those little bars that look like mini-aero
bars (bar-ends that aren't on the end?) that you could
mount inboard of the brakes?

Link?

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Or, have you thought about trying full-on aero bars
and fitting another set of brakes to them so you
always have easy access to your brakes no matter
which position you choose?

I don't think auro bars would fit on my current bar, I'd have to swap it for
a straight bar. But I have thought of it.

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
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What about those little bars that look like mini-aero
bars (bar-ends that aren't on the end?) that you could
mount inboard of the brakes?

Link?

http://www.cambriabike.com/road/bars/cinelli_spinaci_cli-on_bar.htm

or, just get normal mtb bar-ends and mount them in-board.

hippy

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The Hello Kitty Tourer is a lovely little Shogun PB Expert I've built
up. With neat tape job, far too much reflective tape and quality Hello
Kitty stickers.

With taping bikes.. is there a "good" way to do this?
I've thought about doing it to the GT as an alternative
to painting it, but electrical tape and I don't get on
well.
Did you do yours when it was stripped? Mine has
top-tube brake cable that would make taping a PITA.
I could take the cable out, but the frayed ends are a
real bugger to get back into the cable outers..
Plus, there's that triple-triangle design, which is very
fiddly for taping.. and I'm inherently lazy..???

hippy

Cecil Walker sell some clip-ons here http://www.cecilwalker.com.au/category32_1.htm like the Cinelli.

"BBB speed sticks" $29.94. Might be worth getting although would look
wierd with bar ends as well. Be Ok for long rides though.

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Cecil Walker sell some clip-ons here
http://www.cecilwalker.com.au/category32_1.htm like the Cinelli.

"BBB speed sticks" $29.94. Might be worth getting although would look
wierd with bar ends as well. Be Ok for long rides though.

Way cool, both of you! Maybe I should mount some clip-ons on a trekking bar
and have the best of both worlds. :-)

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
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cfsmtb said:

The Hello Kitty Tourer is a lovely little Shogun PB Expert I've built up.
With neat tape job, far too much reflective tape and quality Hello Kitty
stickers. (style is important)

Got any photos ?

-kt

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Or, have you thought about trying full-on aero bars
and fitting another set of brakes to them so you
always have easy access to your brakes no matter
which position you choose?

The significance of this has only just struck me. How would I fit "another
set of brakes"?

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
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Kingsley said:

cfsmtb said:

The Hello Kitty Tourer is a lovely little Shogun PB Expert I've built
up. With neat tape job, far too much reflective tape and quality Hello
Kitty stickers. (style is important)

Got any photos ? -kt

This is difficult, as most of my bikes tend to swap bits and morf int
other bikes. Do have photo's of various pedallys in various stages o
assembly/disassembly. Good idea Kingsley, maybe after all these years
it's time to get a geocities site etc

If I get a website together I'll post the details here at some point i
the future

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Cecil Walker sell some clip-ons here
http://www.cecilwalker.com.au/category32_1.htm like the Cinelli.

"BBB speed sticks" $29.94. Might be worth getting although would look
wierd with bar ends as well. Be Ok for long rides though.

I bought their last set of silver "Race Sticks" today. That leaves a
"titanium" set (not black as it says on the site). It's a pretty colour but
I don't know what it would go with. I also bought a silver Trek flat bar to
replace my riser, mainly because I simply don't have any room left to bolt
the brackets onto but partly because risers are just silly. I had a play
with the new bits just to get a bit of a feel for how everything fits
together and it appears I'm in serious need of some shims. The bit that
clamps onto the handlebar is sized for a drop bar and the flat bar, being a
MTB bar, tapers away from the centre (the ends are only 22mm). The forces
involved naturally preclude rubber shims, so I'll pop up to MBC Prahran
tomorrow and get some aluminium ones. It's all most exciting.

A couple of points of interest:

- The reason they're in the Clearance bin is because almost as soon as they
were released the relevant racing authorities banned them, so the only
people buying them these days are recreational riders like me who need a bit
of assistance dealing with the headwinds on Beach Road. They are indeed a
copy of the Cinelli originals but considerably cheaper.

- The "BBB" brand name comes from "Bill's Bike Babes". Obviously they were
hoping to appeal to a certain market but needless to say those stickers will
be coming off the bars before the new setup leaves the driveway.

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html