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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Crystal said:

    "Martha S. Gallagher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Crystal wrote:

    ;1-1/2 years ago I went on Atkins for the first time. Within 4 months I
    lost
    ;30 pounds with hardly any effort, not even any exercise. I have
    maintained
    ;that loss doing low carb or low fat.
    ;
    ;Now I want to lose more weight. I restarted Atkins following it to a T
    just
    ;like I did 1-1/2 years ago. I cannot lose a single ounce. I've checked
    and
    ;I'm not overdoing it on fatty food, I'm eating lots of allowed veggies
    and
    ;lean meats, fish, etc. Drinking the suggested amount of water. I even
    added
    ;some exercise though only walking daily. Still can't lose an ounce.
    ;

    When did you restart? Last week, a couple of months ago?

    How close are you to goal? Still have a 100 lbs to go? Within 20 lbs of
    what most people would consider slender? Are you at a weight that you tend
    to be able to reach easily when you diet but that it's always been hard
    for you to get below?

    I'm assuming from your screen name that you're female. Premenopausal? Even
    if you are losing weight, water retention can mask it for some women until
    they drop the excess water.

    ;Prior to this I did a low fat and watching calories diet, with the
    walking,
    ;on that I couldn't lose anything either. I'm so frustrated and at a loss
    to
    ;what I should try! help!
    ;

    If you're close to goal or at your personal set point, most people find
    the weight simply comes off more slowly. You may be doing the diet exactly
    right and you just need to be patient and let it happen.

    On the other hand, if you've been back on track for 3 months, nowhere near
    your goal weight and you're sure you're doing the plan properly (starting
    w/ simply not eating too much), then maybe you should post some typical
    days' menus for people to review.

    Martha

    I have 80-100 pounds to lose. I've been back on Atkins 3 weeks with nothing
    to show for it. In a typical day right now I'll eat:

    B - 1 hard boiled egg, and either 4 sausage links or an Atkins muffin

    Remove the muffin.
    Remove the sausage. Sausage contains sugar unless it's Boars Head brand.

    Quoted message said:


    L - Lean ham (not lunchmeat) or tuna wrapped in lettuce with 1/2 cup left
    over veggie from night before. Or a salad with hard boiled egg and low carb
    dressing

    Make it no carb dressing.
    What veggies?

    Quoted message said:


    D - lean meat (chicken breast, fish, hamburger patty) with one cup of some
    sort of veggie

    What veggies?

    Quoted message said:


    Snack - 2 ounce slice cheese or slice of summer sausage

    Quit the sausage.
    Go to fresh cooked plain meat spiced to taste.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't think I'm eating much at all, not hungry though. Am I eating too
    lean for Atkins? The first time I did it I was eating a lot more fat like
    bacon and sausage

    I've had to cut calories back to 1,000 or less to continue losing.
    I was at 1,200 and stalled for 3 months. Now that I cut back (and
    actually measured what I was eating to be sure and not just
    guesstimating) the scale is finally beginning to creep down again.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> Try eating less and exercising more.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    >> MFW
    >>
    >>
    >> "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >>> 1-1/2 years ago I went on Atkins for the first time. Within 4 months
    >>> I lost 30 pounds with hardly any effort, not even any exercise. I
    >>> have maintained that loss doing low carb or low fat.
    >>>
    >>> Now I want to lose more weight. I restarted Atkins following it to a
    >>> T just like I did 1-1/2 years ago. I cannot lose a single ounce.
    >>> I've checked and I'm not overdoing it on fatty food, I'm eating lots
    >>> of allowed veggies and lean meats, fish, etc. Drinking the suggested
    >>> amount of water. I even added some exercise though only walking daily.
    >>> Still can't lose an ounce.
    >>>
    >>> Prior to this I did a low fat and watching calories diet, with the
    >>> walking, on that I couldn't lose anything either. I'm so frustrated
    >>> and at a loss to what I should try! help!
    >
    >
    > I admit I probably could up the exercise, but I really am not eating
    > that much. Maybe for an Atkins plan I should be eating more. I'm doing
    > the same thing I did the first time the diet was successful for me.
    >
    >
    >

    Exactly how many calories are you taking in per day?

    around 1200 a day, some days 1400, but I do have 80-100 to lose

    Eat less protein in favor of more fat and take in less calories while
    increasing your exercise.

    Agreed.

    And NO Atkins muffins!!!
    Bread is not low carb.
    I don't care how it's made,
    not when you are stalled!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Crystal said:

    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Muffins are not low carb.

    Eat bacon instead of ham, and less of it.

    Eat the snack instead of dinner.

    hmm, well, okay I appreciate your input but:

    how can you expect me to eat ONLY 2 ounces of cheese as my dinner?

    and they are Atkins muffins, obviously low(er) carb and I dont eat them
    every day

    "eat bacon instead of ham and less of it"... I only have 4-6 oz of lean ham
    a day, exactly how much bacon would you want me to eat?

    Measure portions and actually count calories until you seem to have it
    down pat, and that scale goes down.

    2 oz. of cheese is a fine dinner. ;-)
    It's what I often eat at work.

    Either that or 1/4 cup of macadamia nuts,
    or 2 oz. of cream cheese.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  4. Crystal <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :> news:[email hidden]...
    :>> noticeably absent is exercise. I have been on maintenance for over
    :>> a year now and I have lost 5 pounds this summer just from exercise.
    :>> And, I don't mean "walking every once in a while"....
    :>>
    :>> Pat in TX
    :>
    :>
    :>
    :> my problem with exercise is that I have very bad knee pain. While I
    :> can walk with no problem, I have exercise tapes ranging from step to
    :> aerobics, my knees cant take it and jumping or bending at all. I
    :> feel limited to how I can burn calories

    There is your solution: walk more.

  5. Crystal <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote
    :>
    :>> You can't lose weight by eating more.
    :>
    :>
    :>
    :> This contridicts what I've heard regarding Atkins which was: If
    :> your body feels it is not getting enough food you won't lose, your
    :> body will hang onto it. If you give it more food, on atkins
    :> particularly more protein/fats it should make your body think it is
    :> not in survival mode

    That's nonsense.

  6. "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Muffins are not low carb.

    Eat bacon instead of ham, and less of it.

    Eat the snack instead of dinner.

    hmm, well, okay I appreciate your input but:

    how can you expect me to eat ONLY 2 ounces of cheese as my dinner?

    Are you trying to lose weight, or not?

    Quoted message said:

    and they are Atkins muffins, obviously low(er) carb and I dont eat them
    every day

    Muffins are not low carb.

    Quoted message said:

    "eat bacon instead of ham and less of it"... I only have 4-6 oz of lean
    ham a day, exactly how much bacon would you want me to eat?

    I don't care what you eat, but if you want to lose weight you need to eat
    less of it.

    Also... At your present weight, you're not maintaining it with 1200
    calories per day unless you are sedentary beyond reason. Unless you're a
    tree sloth, there is much more to this story.

    Quoted message said:


  7. Crystal <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :> news:[email hidden]...
    :>> Crystal <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :>> :> I admit I probably could up the exercise, but I really am not
    :>> :> eating that much. Maybe for an Atkins plan I should be eating
    :>> :> more. I'm doing the same thing I did the first time the diet
    :>> :> was successful
    :>> :> for me.
    :>>
    :>> You can't lose weight by eating more. Continue to eat less than
    :>> you're eating until you start losing weight. saying that you're
    :>> not eating that much doesn't mean you're not eating too much to
    :>> lose weight.
    :>
    :>
    :>
    :> see my other message for how much I eat on a typical day.... and
    :> from what I learned on Atkins the first time I was on it, the more I
    :> upped my fat from sausage and bacon, the more I lost... this is
    :> something I'm not doing this time around

    You don't need to avoid fat....in fact, you may want to eat more fat and
    less protein, depending on where you are exactly. Are you using fitday.com?

  8. Jesus ever-loving Christ. Now I see why JC gets so frustrated. You
    asked him to help you, he gave you clear, easy answers that would be
    very very effective in fine tuning your diet, and you respond with
    arguments and excuses.

    Why not TRY doing what he suggested? Why not try a little experiment
    and just see if you can do it for a few days till your scale shows an
    improvement? Maybe then you'd get some motivation to continue doing it
    several days a week. You'll never know if you don't try.

    Also, understand that bacon probably has more fat than ham, so maybe
    that's why he suggested it. Plus you can get the low sodium kind. Ham
    has way too much sodium and it's probably making you retain water. Eat
    lots of celery (Om taught me that), don't eat those disgusting muffins,
    try adding almonds to your dinnner/snack.

    And get a better attitude. Repeat after me: "Okay I'll give it a try. I
    know it will be hard, but I'll try it for a day or two and go from
    there."

  9. Crystal <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> In a typical day right now I'll eat:
    :>
    :> B - 1 hard boiled egg, and either 4 sausage links or an Atkins muffin
    :>

    That's a lot. Try one egg and 2 links. Avoid muffins.

    :> L - Lean ham (not lunchmeat) or tuna wrapped in lettuce with 1/2 cup
    :> left over veggie from night before. Or a salad with hard boiled egg
    :> and low carb dressing

    You mean ranch or blue cheese. Hopefully, you measure the amounts.

    :>
    :> D - lean meat (chicken breast, fish, hamburger patty) with one cup
    :> of some sort of veggie

    Don't worry about lean...

    :>
    :> Snack - 2 ounce slice cheese or slice of summer sausage
    :>

    Cut the snack to lower calories.

    :>
    :> what protein would you suggest I cut out? what type of fat should I
    :> add? what has so much calories that I've been eating?
    :>
    :>
    :> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote
    :>
    :>> Eat less protein in favor of more fat and take in less calories
    :>> while increasing your exercise.

  10. workdramas <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> Jesus ever-loving Christ. Now I see why JC gets so frustrated.

    What? You're kidding, right?

  11. "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    see my other message for how much I eat on a typical day.... and from
    what I learned on Atkins the first time I was on it, the more I upped my
    fat from sausage and bacon, the more I lost... this is something I'm not
    doing this time around

    ?

    Upping fat last time helped you lose weight so you aren't doing it this time
    around? Am I missing something in the logic here?

    Rich

  12. "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think I'm eating much at all, not hungry though. Am I eating too
    lean for Atkins? The first time I did it I was eating a lot more fat
    like bacon and sausage

    How can you say you are following Atkins to the T when you apparently don't
    know what it says. Do you have book and have you actually read it?

    Rich

  13. "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Muffins are not low carb.

    Eat bacon instead of ham, and less of it.

    Eat the snack instead of dinner.

    hmm, well, okay I appreciate your input but:

    how can you expect me to eat ONLY 2 ounces of cheese as my dinner?

    Are you trying to lose weight, or not?

    well, you are just being ridiculous and unhealthy to suggest that is all a
    person should have for their dinner

    Quoted message said:

    Also... At your present weight, you're not maintaining it with 1200
    calories per day unless you are sedentary beyond reason. Unless you're a
    tree sloth, there is much more to this story.

    Well there isn't anymore to the story, what I said I eat IS what I eat

  14. "workdramas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Jesus ever-loving Christ. Now I see why JC gets so frustrated. You
    asked him to help you, he gave you clear, easy answers that would be
    very very effective in fine tuning your diet, and you respond with
    arguments and excuses.

    Why not TRY doing what he suggested? Why not try a little experiment
    and just see if you can do it for a few days till your scale shows an
    improvement? Maybe then you'd get some motivation to continue doing it
    several days a week. You'll never know if you don't try.

    Also, understand that bacon probably has more fat than ham, so maybe
    that's why he suggested it. Plus you can get the low sodium kind. Ham
    has way too much sodium and it's probably making you retain water. Eat
    lots of celery (Om taught me that), don't eat those disgusting muffins,
    try adding almonds to your dinnner/snack.

    And get a better attitude. Repeat after me: "Okay I'll give it a try. I
    know it will be hard, but I'll try it for a day or two and go from
    there."

    I'm sorry, but I am not going to TRY just 2 oz. of cheese as my whole
    dinner. That is just ridiculous and unhealthy.

  15. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    workdramas <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> Jesus ever-loving Christ. Now I see why JC gets so frustrated.

    What? You're kidding, right?

    I certainlly don't see JC's advise as GOOD advise.

  16. But being 100 pounds overweight is considered healthy?

    I knew there was more to the story.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "workdramas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Jesus ever-loving Christ. Now I see why JC gets so frustrated. You
    asked him to help you, he gave you clear, easy answers that would be
    very very effective in fine tuning your diet, and you respond with
    arguments and excuses.

    Why not TRY doing what he suggested? Why not try a little experiment
    and just see if you can do it for a few days till your scale shows an
    improvement? Maybe then you'd get some motivation to continue doing it
    several days a week. You'll never know if you don't try.

    Also, understand that bacon probably has more fat than ham, so maybe
    that's why he suggested it. Plus you can get the low sodium kind. Ham
    has way too much sodium and it's probably making you retain water. Eat
    lots of celery (Om taught me that), don't eat those disgusting muffins,
    try adding almonds to your dinnner/snack.

    And get a better attitude. Repeat after me: "Okay I'll give it a try. I
    know it will be hard, but I'll try it for a day or two and go from
    there."

    I'm sorry, but I am not going to TRY just 2 oz. of cheese as my whole
    dinner. That is just ridiculous and unhealthy.

  17. Stay fat then.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    > Muffins are not low carb.
    >
    > Eat bacon instead of ham, and less of it.
    >
    > Eat the snack instead of dinner.
    >

    hmm, well, okay I appreciate your input but:

    how can you expect me to eat ONLY 2 ounces of cheese as my dinner?

    Are you trying to lose weight, or not?

    well, you are just being ridiculous and unhealthy to suggest that is all a
    person should have for their dinner

    Quoted message said:

    Also... At your present weight, you're not maintaining it with 1200
    calories per day unless you are sedentary beyond reason. Unless you're a
    tree sloth, there is much more to this story.

    Well there isn't anymore to the story, what I said I eat IS what I eat

  18. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >>> Try eating less and exercising more.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
    >>> hat. --
    >>> MFW
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email hidden]...
    >>>> 1-1/2 years ago I went on Atkins for the first time. Within 4
    >>>> months
    >>>> I lost 30 pounds with hardly any effort, not even any exercise. I
    >>>> have maintained that loss doing low carb or low fat.
    >>>>
    >>>> Now I want to lose more weight. I restarted Atkins following it to
    >>>> a
    >>>> T just like I did 1-1/2 years ago. I cannot lose a single ounce.
    >>>> I've checked and I'm not overdoing it on fatty food, I'm eating
    >>>> lots
    >>>> of allowed veggies and lean meats, fish, etc. Drinking the
    >>>> suggested
    >>>> amount of water. I even added some exercise though only walking
    >>>> daily.
    >>>> Still can't lose an ounce.
    >>>>
    >>>> Prior to this I did a low fat and watching calories diet, with the
    >>>> walking, on that I couldn't lose anything either. I'm so
    >>>> frustrated
    >>>> and at a loss to what I should try! help!
    >>
    >>
    >> I admit I probably could up the exercise, but I really am not eating
    >> that much. Maybe for an Atkins plan I should be eating more. I'm
    >> doing
    >> the same thing I did the first time the diet was successful for me.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Exactly how many calories are you taking in per day?

    around 1200 a day, some days 1400, but I do have 80-100 to lose

    Eat less protein in favor of more fat and take in less calories while
    increasing your exercise.

    Agreed.

    And NO Atkins muffins!!!
    Bread is not low carb.
    I don't care how it's made,
    not when you are stalled!

    okay, I didn't make my muffins today, instead for the week I made egg
    muffins, the kind with bacon, cheddar and cream in them. two small muffins
    for breakfast. I want clarification on something:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Eat less protein in favor of more fat and take in less calories while
    increasing your exercise.

    Eat less protein... so less meat? but more fat... what type of fat?

  19. 1. It's spelled "advice".

    2. If you already know the answers, why are you asking the questions?

    3. Were you born this stupid, or were you in a terrible accident?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Crystal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    workdramas <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> Jesus ever-loving Christ. Now I see why JC gets so frustrated.

    What? You're kidding, right?

    I certainlly don't see JC's advise as GOOD advise.

  20. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Crystal <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :> news:[email hidden]...
    :>> Crystal <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :>> :> I admit I probably could up the exercise, but I really am not
    :>> :> eating that much. Maybe for an Atkins plan I should be eating
    :>> :> more. I'm doing the same thing I did the first time the diet
    :>> :> was successful
    :>> :> for me.
    :>>
    :>> You can't lose weight by eating more. Continue to eat less than
    :>> you're eating until you start losing weight. saying that you're
    :>> not eating that much doesn't mean you're not eating too much to
    :>> lose weight.
    :>
    :>
    :>
    :> see my other message for how much I eat on a typical day.... and
    :> from what I learned on Atkins the first time I was on it, the more I
    :> upped my fat from sausage and bacon, the more I lost... this is
    :> something I'm not doing this time around

    You don't need to avoid fat....in fact, you may want to eat more fat and
    less protein, depending on where you are exactly. Are you using
    fitday.com?

    no, I'm not with fit day. protein is meat, so less meat? but then eat more
    fat, but what FAT? I always think of meat as fat AND protein, I'm confused

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