Shimano again

Simon Mason said:

Mine say Mirage on the brake hoods.

Technically, "hood" just means the rubber cover. Bit it goes on is the
body.

Quoted message said:

Is it likely that I've got
Mirage hoods, but Veloce levers? Do they get mixed up like that?

Most unlikely. I think you must have an old model if the levers are
alloy. 2000-2004 have "MIRAGE" on the actual lever blades.

By the way, if your Ergo isn't marked "9 SPEED" you'll need a pre 2001
rear mech for best results, if you ever want to replace it.

~PB

"Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Most unlikely. I think you must have an old model if the levers are
alloy. 2000-2004 have "MIRAGE" on the actual lever blades.

By the way, if your Ergo isn't marked "9 SPEED" you'll need a pre 2001
rear mech for best results, if you ever want to replace it.

They have nothing on them at all, so must be pre-2000 vintage levers.

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Simon M.

Pete Biggs <[email hidden]> wrote:

: By the way, if your Ergo isn't marked "9 SPEED" you'll need a pre 2001
: rear mech for best results, if you ever want to replace it.

Have you come across any actual problems from mixing and matching
pre/post 2001 ergos and shifters? I haven't seen any from running
a 2000 rear mech with 2003 shifters.

Arthur

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Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org
"Technolibertarians make a philosophy out of a personality defect"
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Arthur Clune said:

Quoted message said:

By the way, if your Ergo isn't marked "9 SPEED" you'll need a pre
2001 rear mech for best results, if you ever want to replace it.

Have you come across any actual problems from mixing and matching
pre/post 2001 ergos and shifters? I haven't seen any from running
a 2000 rear mech with 2003 shifters.

I personally had indexing problems when using 2001 9-speed shifters with
an 8-speed mech--which I believe has the same geometry as pre 2001 9-speed
mechs, and I know 9sp cable pull and ratio changed in 2001 (hard fact).
Various subtle factors will affect how well combinations work, including
condition of mech.

Note I say "for best results" rather than claiming it being /essential/ to
match mech to shifter.

~PB

"Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Mine say Mirage on the brake hoods. Is it likely that I've got Mirage
hoods, but Veloce levers? Do they get mixed up like that?

Maybe when your bike was being built they still had stocks of alloy
Mirage levers in the factory to use up - it's not unheard of for bikes
to change spec. from that in the current catalogue during the course
of the year, or even between individual batches.

David E. Belcher

Pete Biggs <[email hidden]> wrote:

: I personally had indexing problems when using 2001 9-speed shifters with
: an 8-speed mech--which I believe has the same geometry as pre 2001 9-speed
: mechs, and I know 9sp cable pull and ratio changed in 2001 (hard fact).

I know the cable pull etc changed, but I've never had any problems mixing
9-speed rear mechs and shifters. I have known problems mixing 8 speed mechs
and 9 speed shifters but I really couldn't say what year each of the bits
was from.

Arthur

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Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org
"Technolibertarians make a philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook