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  1. I was out on a trail ride with my SH MUni recently reassembled with a
    splined 17-4PH heat treated stainless steel axle that Steve Howard
    built. He broached a pair of red Kookas to go onto the axle. The crank
    bolts and pinch bolts all needed tightening twice during the ride. At
    the end of the ride I mounted on a huge, bear proof garbage container.
    It was a small area and a difficult mount for me. The container was two
    tiered with the first tier at about four feet and the second at five. I
    mounted to the crank on the top tier, which is very stable and easy, on
    my first attempt and did about a four foot drop to flat. Then, I went
    from the crank to rubber on the top on my second attempt so was able to
    do about a five foot drop to flat on that try. The cranks didn't bend or
    loosen and the axle didn't twist. I got Kris to do the same drop but
    he's much lighter than I am and lands like a cat, not like a
    hippopotamus as do I. My test was probably the more stringent but Kris
    was able to ride out of the drop. I wasn't.

    Steve does outstanding work. I will try hard to break this axle but I
    see myself being injured many times before the axle gives out. For some
    reason Kris thought it was odd that I was TRYING to break the axle. He
    thinks like a geologist, I guess.

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  2. The hub that Harper is using is the 'KH style 8 spline hub with
    scalloped flanges' (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/KH_style_hub) by Steve
    Howard. See page 2 of the gallery to see the hub with the customized
    red Kooka cranks.

    I can see I'm going to have a lot of entertainment on our future Seattle
    muni rides as Harper tries to break the hub. 🙂

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  3. Is "broaching" the process of cutting internal grooves by pressing a
    multi-faceted cutter through a hole? Cool. A new term.

    Steve, you have a really cool job. AWESOME work. I particularly like
    the fact that the flanges are fat, have a lot of meat outside the spoke
    holes, and are bead blasted. There is no way those will fail, even on a
    U-turn tensioned Coker wheel that gets stomped.

    How do you keep the flanges from coming together on the spindle? The
    grooves in the spindle are rounded at the ends, so there is either a
    tiny contact point from a sharp-edged flange nubbin (all-purpose
    technical term), or the nubbins are rounded and will try to ride up on
    the ramps.

    Elegant design work, whoever did it. Custom flange spacings look trivial
    to do. Perfect for everything, including U-turn style Coker wheels.

    Tim

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  4. I was on pins and needles reading Harper's post until I got to this
    sentence:

    harper said:

    *The cranks didn't bend or loosen and the axle didn't twist. *

    I was expecting to read:

    "The axle snapped like a twig and I was rushed to the hospital for an
    emergency saddle-extract-ectomy. Steve will be hearing from my lawyers
    soon."

    It took Harper about a 1.5 years to twist the first square taper axle I
    made him. It took about 1.5 seconds to snap the second one. This new
    splined axle should be considerably stronger that either of them ...
    we'll see.

    cyberbellum - The flanges are kept from sliding together exactly the way
    you thought - the end of the splines in the flange "bottom out" in the
    rounded grooves of the axle. In addition to that I made the splined
    hole in the flanges undersize and used Loctite as a lubricant when I
    pressed the flanges on to the axle. The axle actually removed (or
    broached) a slight amount of material from the flange hole when they
    were pressed on.

    I fully intend to make a wide hub like this and build myself a Coker.

    SH

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  5. A photo of the 'test' drop is here:

    Kris:

    http://byronwatt.com/sfu_june26_28.html

    Gregs fancy 'foot stall' on his frist attempt:

    http://byronwatt.com/sfu_june26_27.html

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  6. Quoted message said:

    -originally posted by JamesH- A photo of the 'test' drop is here:

    I got one drop off to the right side of the container where I wanted it.
    The drop was steeper on that side and the landing was flatter. The mount
    was to the crank on the upper tier on the garbage can which is an easy
    and stable mount. I went from the crank to rubber on the top, then did
    the drop to the right side of the container. Lots of impact, very little
    grace or form. I think the photo James Hargrave shows is me failing to
    go from the crank to rubber on top on the first attempt.

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  7. It's so cool that Greg is willing to test this hub. The first of my
    hubs that he rode finally twisted after about a year. The next one he
    tried failed right away. From those two failures I think I learned
    something ... and that's the point.

    I built two hubs - Greg has one and I just assembled the other one into
    a ridable MUni. Just for fun I tried a spoke lacing other than the
    standard 3 cross pattern. I think it's called "three leading, three
    trailing". I'm sure it's not as strong as a 3x pattern but it looks
    pretty swank, especially with the slightly weird "scalloped" hub
    flanges. I'm keeping this one and will do my best to abuse it.
    However, I'm not anywhere near doing big drops like Greg is ... but I'm
    not as old as he is either.

    SH

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  8. Steve,

    nice looking modification to the bearing holders.

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  9. showard said:

    *It's so cool that Greg is willing to test this hub. The first of my
    hubs that he rode finally twisted after about a year. The next one he
    tried failed right away. From those two failures I think I learned
    something ... and that's the point.*

    No, the point was to build Harper's trust in your equipment while
    simultaneously working to minimize the time needed before catastrophic
    failure so he'd be caught unawares. You were making such great progress
    with your second hub, and I fear you've now set your research back
    significantly. On the positive side, Harper clearly has short-term
    memory challenges, since the first thing he did with Hub 3 was start
    jumping off trashcans.

    Let's again enjoy the final moments of Hub 2's life:

    http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albux49/IMG_0426

    Unless you do something quick to compromise the quality of your work
    with Hub 3, the shot below may be a once-in-a-lifetime moment.

    http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albux49/IMG_0432

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