see someone with a flat? no worries... just keep riding.

[Donga]

asterope wrote:
> BIG THUMBS DOWN to all those mean rude cyclists who passed me in
> paddington this morning and didnt stop to ask if i needed help.
>
> the one day i didnt have a spare, i get a flat... at least 5 cyclists
> passed me while i was trying to locate the problem... some slowed down
> and had a good geezer, others just flew straight by.
>
> nice one... theres 3 rapists out and about attacking women in the
> paddington area... the least they could have done was asked if i needed
> a hand/patch/tube... or maybe its the done thing now to ignore girls on
> the sidewalk in full cycling garb looking for punctures and just hope
> they will be ok on the walk home.
>
> GRRRRRRRRRR and curses for those a**holes... but its not going to stop
> me offering a hand to a cyclist in need in the future. Theres etiquette
> to be upheld and its good karma to help out one of your own.

Sorry to hear this Asterope, but one incident does not a trend make. As
a Briz cyclist I routinely offer help and have received it more than
once when needed. There certainly is a 'collegiality' amongst Brisbane
riders - (nearly) always willing to nod hello, have a quick chat or
offer help (OK, perhaps not if you are on a rec . Perhaps there's an
explanation for your incident: they were in a hurry to meet up with the
5.45 bunch ride at Milton? Didn't see you in the dark? Didn't realise
you were wanting help? Some reasons might be less forgiveable than
others, but don't lose faith in your fellow rider over this.

Donga

 

[Donga]

Peter McCallum wrote:
> Hitchy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > what goes around comes around, I always give a "you right mate"? to any
> > lone cyclist stopped on the side of the road...maybe one day I'll be in
> > 'need'....maybe it was just a 'sin city' thing?
>
> Could be but I'd be surprised if anyone stopped and asked in the
> godfearing north.
>
> The other issue is why we have so much broken glass on the roads? I've
> seen the fire brigade (they do the rescue work at traffic accidents up
> here) sweep broken glass from accidents into the gutter so cyclists can
> clean it up later. I'm sure that if we had some deposits on glass
> bottles then there'd be far fewer tossed in the gutter.
>

As an ex-South Aussie I've got to agree with you on the virtue of
bottle deposits.
One good thing about having the biggest local government in the
country/southern hemisphere/world or whatever, is you know who to ring
about broken glass, potholes etc. Briz City Council responds very well
to a report of a hazard to bikes. Glass would be swept away in a short
while. Try it on your local council - you never know. I keep the 24/7
number in my mobile and must come up on the call centre's screens as a
serial PITA.

Donga

 

[Plodder]

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"Duracell Bunny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Artoi wrote:
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>,
> > Duracell Bunny <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't see it as a good deed at all - it's the right thing to do. I
stop for
> >> any cyclist I see by the roadside, except those who are clearly sorting
the
> >> situation out competently.
> >
> > Isn't that the point? I would also stop without question if the dame or
> > gent in distress is wearing casual gear and not an obvious avid sporting
> > cyclist and fumbling with the wheel. But given OP's dress code and
> > appearance, I would not know exactly how I would react at the spot. If
> > there's indication that assistance is needed, then I would stop.
> > --
> "except those who are clearly sorting the situation out competently."
> I take that as seeing a tube being repaired or replaced, in this instance.
>
> She had no spare tube, and so qualified for help. What she was wearing is
> irrelevant, as is whether she was an avid cyclist or a gumby.
>
> --
> Karen
>
> If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible
warning.'
> Catherine Aird

I generally just sing out, "Need a hand?" and stop if they say yes... not
hard. I stopped the other day when driving to work. Cyclist on the roadside
with his bike upside down. I happened to have a tube and track pump in the
car, so an easy fix. Hopefully someone will stop when I'm in the poo. Karma
and all that, although with my karma something horrible is bound to happen


me
me

 

[Plodder]

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> asterope wrote:
>
> > Claude Wrote:
> > > "asterope" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > or maybe its the done thing now to ignore girls on
> > > > the sidewalk in full cycling garb looking for punctures and just
hope
> > > > they will be ok on the walk home.
> > >
> > > Maybe the blokes feel they'll be 'dissed' if they stop?
> > >
> > > http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=4907
> > a good deed is a good deed regardless of what the sex/gender of the
> > person that offers it is.
> >
> > gender equality is just that... equality. i dont believe in dissing
> > anyone just because they ended up with a Y-chromosome.
> >
> >
> > --
> > asterope
>
> Last time I tried to help a "damsel in distress" with a broken down car
> I got my head bitten off verbally for assuming she needed help. From
> then on, their on their own.

Nah - I'm not about to lump everyone into a "them" just because of one
incident. I've got broad shoulders - if I'm told to fcuk off, off I fcuk
Won't stop me stopping next time.

me

 

[Plodder]

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"Surly Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > This is getting dangerously close to accusing a potential victim of
encouraging an attack.
> > Don't be so quick to blame.
>
> No, it's not. I'm saying don't make yourself a victim. If it's really
> that dangerous, take sensible precautions. I'm saying if you don't look
> after yourself, you shouldn't whine that others won't look after you.
>
> > Use situational awareness.
>
> Ok, from this moment forth.

Wow - you've got the "surly" bit right!

Same old same old - nobody is perfect. We all forget stuff sometimes. We all
make a wrong risk calculation sometimes. I sincerely hope taht part of
looking after myself involves looking after others, who will look after me
in return. A bit idealistic, perhaps, but it's got to start somewhere...

me (usually surly, but not today)

 

[Plodder]

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"Surly Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> OK, I agree with you: there's no question that the people who rode past
> you are all arseholes for not offering to help when it should have been
> obvious to the casual observer that you or may not be in trouble and
> may or may not have have wandered unprepared into a dangerous, or not
> dangerous, or dangerous situation.
>
> But then, three of the five could have been rapists and you might be
> better off.
>
> I would have stopped.

I've missed something - where in Perth is this? Just so I can make others
aware of rapists on the loose...

me

 

[PiledHigher]

asterope wrote:
> BIG THUMBS DOWN to all those mean rude cyclists who passed me in
> paddington this morning and didnt stop to ask if i needed help.
>
> the one day i didnt have a spare, i get a flat... at least 5 cyclists
> passed me while i was trying to locate the problem... some slowed down
> and had a good geezer, others just flew straight by.
>
> nice one... theres 3 rapists out and about attacking women in the
> paddington area... the least they could have done was asked if i needed
> a hand/patch/tube... or maybe its the done thing now to ignore girls on
> the sidewalk in full cycling garb looking for punctures and just hope
> they will be ok on the walk home.
>
> GRRRRRRRRRR and curses for those a**holes... but its not going to stop
> me offering a hand to a cyclist in need in the future. Theres etiquette
> to be upheld and its good karma to help out one of your own.
>
>
> --
> asterope

Who's to say that the rapists aren't cyclists, do you think it would
make you any safer to have some random stranger stop to 'help'?

Cyclist suprisingly does not equal perfect....

 

[monsterman]

Last time I tried to help a "damsel in distress" with a broken down car
I got my head bitten off verbally for assuming she needed help. From
then on, their on their own.

don't hang them all on one rude one. 1 Ar@ehole doesn't make me give up hope on all of humanity. The very reason you stopped still holds valid the next time you come across it

 

[Resound]

"Dave Hughes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:51:59 +1000, Adam F wrote:
>
>> Actually, I'm pretty sure it is different in Perth - and Melbourne, and
>> Canberra - I've seen many ppl offering help to strangers in all sorts of
>> situations all 3 but Sydney? Never...and I lived there for 15 years!
>
> I've always offered help to those I saw stopped - even car drivers
> sometimes (depends if I can stop safely there). As Abby said, tap brakes,
> "you right mate", zoom off when they say yes.
>
> One day it'll be you who's down, and that's when you hope you've spread
> enough good feeling that someone will stop for you.
>
> Dave - who had a run in with a bus this morning, but got an apology at the
> next stop. Chasing buses on a 52" gear is a bit of a spin though.
>
It would be...was that the tallest appropriate gear for an uphill grade or
have you built a ridiculously relaxed SS?

 

[Dave Hughes]

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:42:18 +1000, Resound wrote:

> It would be...was that the tallest appropriate gear for an uphill grade or
> have you built a ridiculously relaxed SS?

I keep meaning to put a speedo on just so I can work out my cadence. I
think I max out pedalling around 40ish, though I can't hold that
particularly long.

It's standard 32:16 mountain bike SS (ie 2:1). I can ride most of the
hills around here on it, though some hurt lots. 2:1 is a handy ratio,
because there are several combinations of gears that are identical.

Of course, only a very silly person would run more than one of these at a
time...

http://hired-goons.net/2x2/

--
Dave Hughes | [email protected]
"Forty-two" - Deep Thought

 

[Graeme Dods]

I once stopped to help someone at the side of a cycle path who was
obviously struggling to get a tyre off to fix a puncture.

"Need any help?"
"Yeah, got any tyre levers?"
"No" and just before I added "but I can get tyres off and on without
them" he said "Well you're no f***ing use then!"
So rather than help, I pedalled off hoping it would rain on him, it
didn't - it snowed :-D

And contrary to what some of you may be expecting, I still stop for
cyclists in distress, be they dreadlocked hippies or geared up
pro-wannabes, and I still get the occasional grumpy reply (though not
as bad as the one above).

Graeme

 

[asterope]

plodder... these sick f*ckers are in brisbane... so just warn your friends if they come here for a visit.

donga: dont worry, im not going to let this one day ruin my impression of brisbane cyclists, most of the cyclists ive ever asked if they needed/received help from are a pretty kindly bunch. thinking back on it, it was probably a wrong place at the wrong time thing. *shrug* it happens.

just this afternoon i stopped to see if a fellow rider needed a hand, he seemed to be having a bit of problems with the chain... i got a 'no, its ok, thanks!' and was back on my merry way to get completely drenched in what was one of the nicest rainy afternoons ever.

not everyones perfect, but its good to look out for eachother nonetheless.

 

[Artoi]

In article <[email protected]>,
asterope <[email protected]> wrote:

> just this afternoon i stopped to see if a fellow rider needed a hand,
> he seemed to be having a bit of problems with the chain... i got a 'no,
> its ok, thanks!' and was back on my merry way to get completely drenched
> in what was one of the nicest rainy afternoons ever.

Aren't you in Sydney? It was a sunny Saturday today, where did you get
the rain?
--

 

[dave]

Jono L wrote:
> Did these cyclists have telepathic powers? If you asked then maybe....
>
> Generally, I just make eye contact and nod, if they heed help then all
> they need to do is ask.
>
>
I,ll always ask. Unless its absolutely clear they are fine.
Happy to stop and help. I did yesterday in fact

Dave

 

[dave]

Absent Husband wrote:
> Abby's approach:
>
> 1. Tap the brakes to slow down from 'warp speed' (*haha*)
>
> 2. Yell out, "You right mate?";
>
> 3. If 'no', stop. If 'yes', re-accelerate back to warp speed.
>
> How fscking easy is that. No excuses for not helping someone out - its
> da code, homies...
>
> Cheers,
> Abby (who thinks he may have taken too many antihistamine tablets...)
>


For warp speed insert fast amble speed.

Otherwise same

Dave

 

[asterope]

In article <[email protected]>,
asterope <[email protected]> wrote:

> just this afternoon i stopped to see if a fellow rider needed a hand,
> he seemed to be having a bit of problems with the chain... i got a 'no,
> its ok, thanks!' and was back on my merry way to get completely drenched
> in what was one of the nicest rainy afternoons ever.

Aren't you in Sydney? It was a sunny Saturday today, where did you get
the rain?
--

Artoi: im in Brisbane, which has finally been getting some rain.
theres a paddington in brisbane too... funnily enough, around the same distance from the city centre as the paddington in sydney. just as posh, but with far less good clothes stores, but more cafes and antique stores, and nowhere near as close to the beach.

 

[Artoi]

In article <[email protected]>,
asterope <[email protected]> wrote:

> Artoi: im in Brisbane, which has finally been getting some rain.
> theres a paddington in brisbane too... funnily enough, around the same
> distance from the city centre as the paddington in sydney. just as
> posh, but with far less good clothes stores, but more cafes and antique
> stores, and nowhere near as close to the beach.

Oh I see...

All along, I've been thinking all along that you were in Sydney. There
are so many cyclists around Paddington due to its proximity to
Centennial Park.
--

 

[Zebee Johnstone]

In aus.bicycle on Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:28:24 +1000
Duracell Bunny <[email protected]> wrote:
>> --
> "except those who are clearly sorting the situation out competently."
> I take that as seeing a tube being repaired or replaced, in this instance.

I had several riders pass me when I got a puncture on the way to work
last week. I presume they looked, saw I was in the middle of dealing
with it, hoped I'd taken the heat for them and went on their way.

I've run out of patches though, ahve to remember to stop at City Bike
on the way in tomorrow and get some more.

Reminds me of Mum saying that she got a flat tyre on the car in a
suburban shopping street and was putting the spare wheel on, wondering
why no helpful man stopped to ask if she needed help. "Then I saw the
biceps I was sporting under the t-shirt[1] and figured they probably
thought I could do it better than they could."


Zebee

[1] at the time she was dealing with 10 acres of stonefruit and 4
horses, with just a lazy teenaged me to help.

 

[rooman]

for those occasions when you've used up your tube stock on a previous puncture on the ride , use a five dollar bill wrapped around the tube at the puncture site, it will be enough hold the pressure to get you out of trouble....
inflate to a serviceable pressure and ride on.

anyway...brickbats to those who ignored the plight of a lady in need.....stopping and offering a hand is good network building, and barrier breaking...we all belong to the same family... its good karma, good for the soul and , never know, might be the start of some great times, laughs and friendships... !

 

[Jono L]

for those occasions when you've used up your tube stock on a previous puncture on the ride , use a five dollar bill wrapped around the tube at the puncture site,

If you convert it to Vietnamese curency you'll have enough to do the entire tube, twice.