Second-hand frames

On 14 Jan, 14:56, David Damerell <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

So, as part of my ongoing adventures, I'm looking to scrounge up one of
those old road frames which there must be millions of out there somewhere
- but where should I be looking?

Quoted message said:

I was wondering if urc have any suggestions.

eBay.

Marlboro Ultralight, Reylolds 531c: £26 plus shipping (last November,
been riding it ever since). Raleigh Equipe, £16+shipping, made of old
gas pipe but works as a winter hack- should be riding this instead of
the good one at the moment!

Worth watching Freecycle, too, and maybe stick a card up in your LBS
asking if anyone has a frame in the shed that they'd like to move on?
Ask around your local roadie club?

Cheers,
W.

David Damerell said:

So, as part of my ongoing adventures, I'm looking to scrounge up one of
those old road frames which there must be millions of out there somewhere
- but where should I be looking? The LBSes deny the very existence of
second-hand road bikes (not quite); Brick Lane [1] apparently sell only
racing frames and braze-ons are the work of Stan.

I was wondering if urc have any suggestions.

My garage. There's a Raleigh frame, um, ovalised tubes made of not
very exciting steel, built for 27 inch as opposed to 700C wheel.
complete with (I think) shonky chainset, a probably handlebars.

I'll try and get a photo tonight.

Free to a good home. Crawley, W Sussex, but I do travel a bit for
work.

--

Tim

fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.

Tim Hall said:

David Damerell said:

So, as part of my ongoing adventures, I'm looking to scrounge up one of
those old road frames which there must be millions of out there somewhere
- but where should I be looking? The LBSes deny the very existence of
second-hand road bikes (not quite); Brick Lane [1] apparently sell only
racing frames and braze-ons are the work of Stan.

I was wondering if urc have any suggestions.

My garage. There's a Raleigh frame, um, ovalised tubes made of not
very exciting steel, built for 27 inch as opposed to 700C wheel.
complete with (I think) shonky chainset, a probably handlebars.

I'll try and get a photo tonight.

Free to a good home. Crawley, W Sussex, but I do travel a bit for
work.

if no one else is intrested i'd very happy to give it a good home, i
don't live that far away (nr kingston) my partners sister lives in east
grinstead.

roger
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www.rogermerriman.com

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<[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Worth watching Freecycle, too, and maybe stick a card up in your
LBS asking if anyone has a frame in the shed that they'd like to
move on? Ask around your local roadie club?

Talk to your local bin men - you'll probably get 10 for £20.

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On 14 Jan, 14:56, David Damerell <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

So, as part of my ongoing adventures, I'm looking to scrounge up one of
those old road frames which there must be millions of out there somewhere
- but where should I be looking?
I was wondering if urc have any suggestions.

eBay.

Marlboro Ultralight, Reylolds 531c: £26 plus shipping (last November,
been riding it ever since). Raleigh Equipe, £16+shipping, made of old
gas pipe but works as a winter hack- should be riding this instead of
the good one at the moment!

Forget the equipe. Made from gas pipe, and about as brittle. I had one
of these 15 years ago, and it went through 3 broken frames and a
broken fork before Raleigh fixed it with somethng better. Readers with
long memories may remember the sorry tale of the broken bike and the
shocking incompetence of a "bike shop" near Cambridge.

TL

Well, there's one chained outside our local Sainsburys that's been there for
a while, so obviously nobody wants it.... already stripped for you, no
handlebars, wheels, chain, etc. etc. ;-)

Barb

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Tim Hall said:

David Damerell said:

So, as part of my ongoing adventures, I'm looking to scrounge up one of
those old road frames which there must be millions of out there
somewhere
- but where should I be looking?

In article <7fc435e1-24f8-4e58-b046-f321c7850e82
@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, The Luggage
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Quoted message said:

Forget the equipe. Made from gas pipe, and about as brittle. I had one
of these 15 years ago, and it went through 3 broken frames and a
broken fork before Raleigh fixed it with somethng better.

Was it the dropouts that broke? ISTR seeing quite a lot of that on
cheap Raleigh road bikes.

Barb said:

Well, there's one chained outside our local Sainsburys that's been there for
a while, so obviously nobody wants it.... already stripped for you, no
handlebars, wheels, chain, etc. etc. ;-)

Barb

snips

well there is old bike chained up in kingston for at least a year, but
regardless can't say i'm tempted.

roger
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:25:10 +0000, [email hidden] (Roger

Merriman) said:

Tim Hall said:

On 14 Jan 2008 14:56:30 +0000 (GMT), David Damerell

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My garage. There's a Raleigh frame, um, ovalised tubes made of not
very exciting steel, built for 27 inch as opposed to 700C wheel.
complete with (I think) shonky chainset, a probably handlebars.

I'll try and get a photo tonight.

Still no photo. And now the garage has two inches ofwater across the
floor.

I'll try (yet again) tomorrow. And to wield a tape measure.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Free to a good home. Crawley, W Sussex, but I do travel a bit for
work.

if no one else is intrested i'd very happy to give it a good home, i
don't live that far away (nr kingston) my partners sister lives in east
grinstead.

David D. has been a bit quiet. (PING). It's yours if he hasn't
answered by, say, Thursday evening, 19:00.

My sister lives in Kingston. Spooky, innit.

Tim
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Tim

fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.

Rob Morley said:

In article <7fc435e1-24f8-4e58-b046-f321c7850e82
@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, The Luggage
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Forget the equipe. Made from gas pipe, and about as brittle. I had one
of these 15 years ago, and it went through 3 broken frames and a
broken fork before Raleigh fixed it with somethng better.

Was it the dropouts that broke?  ISTR seeing quite a lot of that on
cheap Raleigh road bikes.

two dropouts, one downtube

TL

Hi,

The Luggage said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Forget the equipe. Made from gas pipe, and about as brittle. I had one
of these 15 years ago, and it went through 3 broken frames and a
broken fork before Raleigh fixed it with somethng better.

two dropouts, one downtube

Yep, it's bottom end stuff, though I think the name's been used on
some slightly better frames than this one, too. It came pretty much
complete for £16, so I didn't need to source any parts (bar the fixed
cog and a more suitable rear wheel) to get it rolling.
The difference in weight alone between this & the 531c is
spectacular. Combined with the low-grade brazing, nasty pressed
dropouts and brittle paint, it doesn't inspire.

Rides OK, though, and I don't worry about getting it covered in salty
road grime (I feel guilty when the nice one gets all cruddy!). Under
£30 for a winter hack that's quite fun to ride and theft-resistant
(not much demand for 25" fixies round here).

Cheers,
W.

Quoting Tim Hall <[email hidden]>:

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David D. has been a bit quiet. (PING). It's yours if he hasn't
answered by, say, Thursday evening, 19:00.

Roger's nearer, so if he wants it I'm quite happy for him to have it. I
was waiting for the photo, but I won't be upset if Roger gets first dibs.
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David Damerell said:

Quoting Tim Hall <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

David D. has been a bit quiet. (PING). It's yours if he hasn't
answered by, say, Thursday evening, 19:00.

Roger's nearer, so if he wants it I'm quite happy for him to have it. I
was waiting for the photo, but I won't be upset if Roger gets first dibs.

with out divulging into a you sir no your sir.

I'm also i going down to wales for the next few weekends (back to wales
to sort things and waiting to be a uncle) and you did ask first! so feel
free,

roger
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(Roger Merriman) said:

David Damerell said:

Quoting Tim Hall <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

David D. has been a bit quiet. (PING). It's yours if he hasn't
answered by, say, Thursday evening, 19:00.

Quoted message said:

Roger's nearer, so if he wants it I'm quite happy for him to have it. I
was waiting for the photo, but I won't be upset if Roger gets first dibs.

with out divulging into a you sir no your sir.

I'm also i going down to wales for the next few weekends (back to wales
to sort things and waiting to be a uncle) and you did ask first! so feel
free,

OK, photos are now on Flickr at <http://www.flickr.com/photos/
timintheshed/sets/72157603736890890/>

It's dirty but no major rust (apart from the headset). Paint is very
shonky, so for a fixie conversion I'd get it respayed/powder coated/
Hammerited once you know it works. It's 23 inches C-C.

Tim, on google groups.

Quoting Tim Hall <[email hidden]>:

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OK, photos are now on Flickr at <http://www.flickr.com/photos/
timintheshed/sets/72157603736890890/>

Pursuing by email, to unclutter the group.
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David Damerell <[email hidden]> Distortion Field!
Today is Tuesday, January.

"Tim Hall" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

Quoted message said:

OK, photos are now on Flickr at

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/timintheshed/sets/72157603736890890/>

My old Record Sprint was very similar, but built with better (501) tubing.

That short right-hand rear dropout is less than ideal for a fixie. I found I
needed a half link to get proper chain tension. Though of course there's
enough metal there to extend the slot rearward, I'm not sure that the frame
really justifies the effort.

The thin stays and (I presume from the front derailleur braze-on) oval tubes
also make for quite a flexible frame. The rear brake (I was running a
freewheel for a while) would often rub the rim on stiff climbs.

Those Thun cranks are quite fragile - I managed to tear the pressed-on
spider loose from mine after very few miles.

Cycle jumbles can be good sources of cheap, fixable frames and parts:

http://www.campyoldy.co.uk/events.htm

James Thomson

James Thomson writtificated

Quoted message said:

That short right-hand rear dropout is less than ideal for a fixie. I
found I needed a half link to get proper chain tension. Though of
course there's enough metal there to extend the slot rearward, I'm not
sure that the frame really justifies the effort.

I used an angle grinder to lengthen the slot on mine - possibly not the
best way to do it but as it was an old, battered and bent 18-23 hi-ten
steel jobbie I won't cry if (when...) it breaks. Playing with an angle
grinder was definately worth the effort 😉

On 18 Jan, 13:42, Mark T
<pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com.invalid>

Quoted message said:

I used an angle grinder to lengthen the slot on mine - possibly not the
best way to do it but as it was an old, battered and bent 18-23 hi-ten
steel jobbie I won't cry if (when...) it breaks.  ...

<AOL mode>

Me too!

</AOL mode>

I needed a long dropout to let me run a double chainset- this gives
me a choice of 64" (52x22) or 59" (48x22) gears depending on what I'm
using the bike for. Like using a flip-flop hub but closer ratios and
less faff to swap over.

Cheers,
W.

Quoting Tim Hall <[email hidden]>:

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My garage. There's a Raleigh frame, um, ovalised tubes made of not
very exciting steel, built for 27 inch as opposed to 700C wheel.
complete with (I think) shonky chainset, a probably handlebars.

Tim just dropped this off (annoyingly, just as work grabbed me for
something that was resolved five minutes later, so I had to sort of rush
out and rush back in again). Thanks.

Is Frank Coopers an acceptable substitute for Marmite, when it's done?
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