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You can't walk without pain because you're obese.

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

Also, this is exactly the reason you shouldn't be giving diet advice. Seems
like common sense, but in your case it needs to be directly stated.

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"FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No, I don't exercise. I have back problems and can't walk without pain.
I
hate to exercise also. I feel better from the weight I have lost already
and am pretty happy, JC is the one who is unhappy with my weight, not I.

In news:[email hidden],
Clark Mertz <[email hidden]> stated
| FOB wrote:
|| I don't eat ice cream, even before LC I rarely ate ice cream so it
|| couldn't possibly make me fat. And I don't weigh 250 either, I am
|| down to 226.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
||| It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+
||| pounds, either.
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| Are you exercising? I do not take off any weight unless I exercise
| regularly so I do every day. low carb or not there is no substitute
| (you'll feel better too)
|
| -Mertz

Twice a year doesn't make you fat.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| You stated that you rarely ate it, which means you did eat it.
|
| No wonder you're obese.
|
|

If you lied about eating ice cream, what else have you lied about?

No wonder you're obese.

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Twice a year doesn't make you fat.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| You stated that you rarely ate it, which means you did eat it.
|
| No wonder you're obese.
|
|

Why do you care how fat I am?

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| If you lied about eating ice cream, what else have you lied about?
|
| No wonder you're obese.
|
|
| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
|| Twice a year doesn't make you fat.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
||| You stated that you rarely ate it, which means you did eat it.
|||
||| No wonder you're obese.

I only care that you give terrible diet advice.

Is your obesity and idiocy linked? Probably so.

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"FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Why do you care how fat I am?

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| If you lied about eating ice cream, what else have you lied about?
|
| No wonder you're obese.
|
|
| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
|| Twice a year doesn't make you fat.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
||| You stated that you rarely ate it, which means you did eat it.
|||
||| No wonder you're obese.

Nicky said:

"yuluwirri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I wonder if the nuts are causing me not to lose weight?

Well, it depends how big your bowls are - but what you listed sounds very
sensible to me, low carb and not silly on the calorie front either. Two
possible thoughts; could you try eating the same amount but over, say, 5
meals in the day, to give your metabolism a boost? Or try shaking up your
calorie count - if you really are eating pretty well the same amount of
caolories every day, try going 200 up for a couple of days. Sounds wierd,
but it's broken stalls for me! Ah - thought 3 - do you like green tea?
That's supposed to be another metabolism booster.

And unless you feel you're pigging out, I'd stick to the nuts. There's lots
of studies that say that people who snack on a handful of good, healthy nuts
(not peanuts, but almonds or walnuts generally) eat less calories than
people who don't.

I doubt that any study will show that regular consumption of a food as
high in calories as most nuts will assist in weight loss. A very small
handful of nuts, walnuts for instance, will run to three or four hundred
calories. A bowl full sounds excessive.

Low carb eating is simply a way in which to allow a person to consume
less calories with less difficulty. The total calorie consumption is
what actually counts.

Those tiny (75gram) packets of nuts that they pass out on airlines
contain more than four hundred calories. How many of those packets fit
into a bowl?

Regards

David
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JC Der Koenig said:

You can't walk without pain because you're obese.

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

Also, this is exactly the reason you shouldn't be giving diet advice. Seems
like common sense, but in your case it needs to be directly stated.

You seem to be a little more acerbic than usual JC.

Pre menstrual? Someone hide the remote control and you can't remember
how to change channels manually? Boyfriend give you a knock-back?

Whatever it is, your pain shows. You have my sympathy.

(BTW did I tell you that I am often less than honest regarding how
sympathetic I really feel when addressing people like you? I just can't
seem to help myself.) <g>

Regards

David

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I doubt that any study will show that regular consumption of a food as
high in calories as most nuts will assist in weight loss.

http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v27/n11/abs/0802411a.html;jsessionid=C53BC9C30734AD317E87FED83FDFF05E

http://intl.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/78/3/647S

The first 2 links I googled. You could also try the Portfolio Diet - my link
has suffered abstract-only rot : (

Nicky.

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1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
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"J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

You can't walk without pain because you're obese.

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

Also, this is exactly the reason you shouldn't be giving diet advice.
Seems like common sense, but in your case it needs to be directly stated.

You seem to be a little more acerbic than usual JC.

I seem to be more acerbic because you are pre menstrual? Someone hide the
remote control and you can't remember
how to change channels manually? Boyfriend give you a knock-back?

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

You don't mention your exercise plan. What is it?

JC Der Koenig said:

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Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

You can't walk without pain because you're obese.

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

Also, this is exactly the reason you shouldn't be giving diet advice.
Seems like common sense, but in your case it needs to be directly stated.

You seem to be a little more acerbic than usual JC.

I seem to be more acerbic because you are pre menstrual? Someone hide the
remote control and you can't remember
how to change channels manually? Boyfriend give you a knock-back?

Come on JC, you can do better than this. Most people decide that
repeating someone loses its appeal by the time they get past five or six
years of age.

Quoted message said:

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

I couldn't do that JC, in fact I am trying very hard to eat more and cut
back on my exercise. I have been getting stronger but not putting on
much size. Need to rest on alternate days. Besides, with the warm
weather I am spending more time out on the water, kayaking and
windsurfing and less time in the gym. I have under five percent body fat
- what is yours like?

I have a sneaking suspicion that although you might take comfort in not
being obese, that you are in fact not as slim or as fit as you would
like people to believe. Your obsession with abusing people you perceive
as overweight and your constant failure to understand what is meant by
low card dieting seems to support such a probability. Your posts appear
spiteful and resentful. Unless you were unsuccessful in controlling your
own fitness and weight, you would have little reason to resent those who
are making an effort to control their own weight.

Either that or your own life is so lacking in successful endeavour that
mocking those heavier than yourself is the only way you can feel
superior. Either way it is rather pathetic.

Regards

David

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Prove it.

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I have under five percent body fat

JC Der Koenig said:

Prove it.

Why?

Do you really think that I am in the slightest bit concerned about
whether you agree with me or not?

You are taking yourself far too seriously.

Regardless, a photograph would only show that I am thin, too thin, and
not indicate a true body fat percentage. Unless you would like to
provide airfares and arrange an immersion test in Texas, then it is
unlikely to happen.

Of course if you are keen enough about seeing proof and are prepared to
provide the airfares etc., I wouldn't object. I haven't spent time in
Texas since the seventies and I quite enjoyed my last visit. I am fairly
resilient and could probably even manage to put up with your company. <g>

Regards

David
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I seriously doubt that you are at 5%, which also throws into doubt most of
your other dubious advice.

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JC Der Koenig said:

Prove it.

Why?

Do you really think that I am in the slightest bit concerned about whether
you agree with me or not?

Regardless, a photograph would only show that I am thin, too thin, and not
indicate a true body fat percentage. Unless you would like to provide
airfares and arrange an immersion test in Texas, then it is unlikely to
happen.

JC Der Koenig said:

I seriously doubt that you are at 5%, which also throws into doubt most of
your other dubious advice.

It nice to know that I can cause you serious doubt.

I do wonder why you are even interested, but I guess that in order to
understand that I would probably need to know more about you than I
would like to. You can regard me as fat or thin, short or tall, whatever
you wish. I have my own agenda, you don't figure in it.

I find it interesting that you seem to delight in attacking those you
deem to be overweight, plus apparently, those who are trying to gain
weight while remaining low carb. What is missing in your life that
causes you to haunt newsgroups at all hours hoping to offend people?

Why do you think that I would be concerned with your impression of me? I
suppose that it is because that when bored I will sometimes respond to
you - most seem to ignore you. I am insomniac, (narcolepsy, also, like
the diabetes, medically induced) so I often become a little bored during
the night. You offer a (very slight) diversion on occasion.

You miss your mark with me, I have a bullet-proof ego, enough arrogance
for any two people and contempt for anyone who appears intelligent but
acts dumb. As is your wont.

I might have some degree of concern regarding the way someone that I
respected regarded me, but a troll of limited intellect, or at least of
limited repertoire? (You do realise that you are boringly repetitive and
noticeably lacking in wit and humor?) Why don't you work on your
"schtick"? It couldn't hurt.

Regards

David

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You must be concerned, given the amount of response you feel is needed.

Again: you are not at 5% bodyfat, and eating several meals per day has no
advantage over a few.

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JC Der Koenig said:

I seriously doubt that you are at 5%, which also throws into doubt most
of your other dubious advice.

It nice to know that I can cause you serious doubt.

I do wonder why you are even interested, but I guess that in order to
understand that I would probably need to know more about you than I would
like to. You can regard me as fat or thin, short or tall, whatever you
wish. I have my own agenda, you don't figure in it.

I find it interesting that you seem to delight in attacking those you deem
to be overweight, plus apparently, those who are trying to gain weight
while remaining low carb. What is missing in your life that causes you to
haunt newsgroups at all hours hoping to offend people?

Why do you think that I would be concerned with your impression of me? I
suppose that it is because that when bored I will sometimes respond to
you - most seem to ignore you. I am insomniac, (narcolepsy, also, like the
diabetes, medically induced) so I often become a little bored during the
night. You offer a (very slight) diversion on occasion.

You miss your mark with me, I have a bullet-proof ego, enough arrogance
for any two people and contempt for anyone who appears intelligent but
acts dumb. As is your wont.

I might have some degree of concern regarding the way someone that I
respected regarded me, but a troll of limited intellect, or at least of
limited repertoire? (You do realise that you are boringly repetitive and
noticeably lacking in wit and humor?) Why don't you work on your
"schtick"? It couldn't hurt.

Regards

David

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"yuluwirri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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First two weeks, I did the same thing but without the nuts and low
carb ice-cream.

Can you see anywhere I could be mucking up the Atkins plan?

I eat a lot more veggies. I do best with weight loss when I really
incorporate veggies into most meals. There's such a huge variety to try.

While I believe that nuts, cream, and cheese are all good things... be
careful about your quantity.
I think Atkins suggests limiting cheese to 4? ounces a day. I love cheese
also, especially tasty cheese. 🙂
Make sure you know what an ounce of nuts looks like. I eat nuts daily when
I have them, but I've gotten good at knowing exactly how much one ounce
looks like because that is a lot of calories. Cheese is full of calories
also. While I don't count calories on a daily basis, every now and then
I'll enter what I've eaten into Fitday to get a count. I'm eating about
1800 - 2000 calories when losing weight... and I'm young, tall, and
physically active.

If you're feeling not hungry, I'm wondering if you're overdoing the calories
and that's why your body is telling you that you're full.

So I would suggest... measure your cheese and nuts. Try making scrambled
eggs with water instead of cream, or measure your cream. After measuring
everything you've eaten, enter it all into Fitday and see what you come up
with. You could be fine, I certainly don't see any "red flags" but this is
just an idea. I'm thinking there's probably nothing wrong with your carb
count, but if you have too many high-calorie foods your body can only burn
off so much.
How much do you need to lose? Are you exercising?

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