Buud said:<MJuric> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Do you have any papers/Studies/articles on this? My understanding of asthma is that it is
primarily caused by an inflamation in the lungs. I've never heard anyone suffereing from CO2
induced asthma.Do a search for Buteyko - a Russian Doctor. He discovered that LACK of CO2 (by fractions of a
percent) causes the breathing system to try to correct the problem by cutting down on breathing.
First your nose blocks, then you get wheezy etc.
I will do that. I also hope that Josh will comment on you statements here.
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[Very little support for his theories in the West with the notable exception of Australia. Indeed
there is a lot of hostility from the Asthma charities - usually a sign you are on the right track
in my view. Indeed it exposes the corruption of the charities that are funded by drug companies -
the Buteyko method requires no or substantially reduced drugs. ]
It can also be a sign of just plain old quackery. Just because someone says that "science"
doesn't support something does not mean they are trying to protect there cash flow.
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If you have exercise induced asthma it is well worth trying - I know of noone who has tried it who
has had no success. I know of cases where it works for other types of asthma although the success
rate seems to be less.Quoted message said:With this quote:
"On the other hand, there is no evidence that a person with stable asthma is constantly
overbreathing."Indeed there is evidence - Buteyko did studies. You can do it yourself - watch any asthmatic - they
tend to gulp in air, the yawn a lot as well.
Well My wife is an asthmatic. At one time getting very severe. Using the "emergency",
Ibutural<SP> inhaler up to 4-5 times a day just to get air. I never really noticed her
"gulping" for air. And she yawns much less than I do. Since that tiem she has seen a
specialist and is now on some "longer term" control she uses 2X a day and rarely has to use
teh "Emergency" one now, maybe 2-3 x a week.
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As I said. Nose breathing obviously works, but not for CO2 reasons. Breathing thru the nose
allows the air to warm longer and add moisture and causes less irritation to the lining of the
lungs. The same goes for covering the mouth, which allows a greater retention of moisture and
warmer air temps.Your view is the view put out by the traditional Western medics but there is very little evidence
that this is a fundamental reason - it may assist once you have it but there is no evidence that
people living in warm dry climates have less asthma than those in wet and cold. But, if it works
why not use it.
I can't say that there is or isn't evidence, I would guess there is as a proffesed MD,
posted nearly identical opinion. OTOH experiance has shown this to be true for me and I
don't have asthma. If I run in extremely cold weather without cover my mouth and or
breathing thru my nose, my throat gets irritated and I eventually end up coughing. I would
suspect that an ashmatic, whom I'm assuming has a more "sensitive" tissue lining, woudl be
more suseptable to this effect. Just guessing though.
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However according to Buteyko it is more than that and he bases his approach on a rigorous approach
of breath control - by doing that, there are even greater benefits. The scientific evidence is
clear - as any biologist knows, CO2 aids the transfer of O2 to the muscles and as someone else
noted, CO2 is what causes you to breathe in the first place.
Another question "CO2 helps the transfer fo O2 to the muscle"? How does that work? Yes CO2
is the "Take a breath indicator" however it is a waste product is it not? Again how is it
taht it help in transfering O2?
Quoted message said:Overbreathing reduces
CO2.
Not breathing increases CO2, does that cause and ashmatic attack?
Quoted message said:The easiest way to control breathing is to use the nose. However to get the maximum benefit you
need to do more than that.
I believe the easiest way to control breathing is to simply not breath so much. Second I
believe we have a tendancy to breath thru the nose at various time for other reason that
"breath control". Better, moisture adn temperature control come to mind. None the less I
will make an attempt to look up the studies you have suggested and see what I can find out.
I am as usual very skeptical though.
~Matt