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  1. I just started running in races and ran a 1:29 Half Marathon (pretty
    good for a 43 yr old) among other trail races. I've noticed that some
    really fast runners have flabby or seemingly unfit bodytypes. I myself
    have a sprinters type lean, muscular body.

    For instance a guy who placed 2nd in a hard hilly 10 mile trail run is
    a slighty flabby 52 year old with no muscle tone! How is this
    possible??? He says he runs a 3:10 marathon!

    Also, I've started training with some ultra-runners who are older
    50-ish types and many are overweight and definitely do not look like
    athletes. How can you run serious mileage and not look fit??? Some of
    these people have run the Western States 100!?!?!

  2. When it comes to runners, some look like they couldn't outrun a turtle,
    yet they fly.
    In running looks mean nothing.

  3. troll

    Quoted message said:

    I just started running in races and ran a 1:29 Half Marathon (pretty
    good for a 43 yr old) among other trail races. I've noticed that some
    really fast runners have flabby or seemingly unfit bodytypes. I myself
    have a sprinters type lean, muscular body.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I just started running in races and ran a 1:29 Half Marathon (pretty
    good for a 43 yr old) among other trail races. I've noticed that some
    really fast runners have flabby or seemingly unfit bodytypes. I myself
    have a sprinters type lean, muscular body.

    For instance a guy who placed 2nd in a hard hilly 10 mile trail run is
    a slighty flabby 52 year old with no muscle tone! How is this
    possible??? He says he runs a 3:10 marathon!

    Also, I've started training with some ultra-runners who are older
    50-ish types and many are overweight and definitely do not look like
    athletes. How can you run serious mileage and not look fit??? Some of
    these people have run the Western States 100!?!?!

    I havent found running to have much impact on appearance at all.
    I think weightlifting would be a lot better for that.

  5. Quoted message said:

    I just started running in races and ran a 1:29 Half Marathon (pretty
    good for a 43 yr old) among other trail races. I've noticed that some
    really fast runners have flabby or seemingly unfit bodytypes. I myself
    have a sprinters type lean, muscular body.

    For instance a guy who placed 2nd in a hard hilly 10 mile trail run is
    a slighty flabby 52 year old with no muscle tone! How is this
    possible??? He says he runs a 3:10 marathon!

    How it's possible is that he's potentially a sub-3-hour marathoner who
    likes to stuff his face and loathes going to the track.

    Some runners think that they can eat whatever the heck they want. Oops,
    not true. Running doesn't eat that many calories. If you run 50 miles
    per week, that's only on the order of 5000 calories. A trucker's
    breakfast at some greasy diner can load you up with 1800 calories in
    one sitting.

    Running is good for fat loss only when it's intense. Intense exercise
    brings about endocrinological changes that tune the body toward a
    leaner composition with more muscle mass.

    Long, steady endurance exercise ``locks in'' adipose tissue; that fat
    under your skin is unavailable during endurance exercise. The type of
    exercise which mobilizes adipose fat is the intermitent, high-intensity
    type. The intermittent nature of the exercise tricks the ``adipose fat
    lock'' into releasing.

    There is in fact a form of nervous system exhaustion from high
    intensity exercise which is linked to the release of fat into the blood
    stream. Free fatty acids are carried in the bloodstream bound to the
    protein albumin. The neurotransmitter tryptophan is carried by the same
    protein, and the liberation of these fatty acids competes for transport
    with tryptophan. The tryptophan that is unable to bind to the albumin
    that is occupied by fatty acids remains free, and that free tryptophan
    can be readily taken up by the brain, where it turns to serotonin,
    giving rise to sleepiness and lethargy! This is one reason why you can
    feel like being horizontal after a hard interval training session. It's
    evidence that fat was released. You also might not feel hungry; the
    release of fat kind of feels to your body like you've eaten a meal.
    Your tissue can't tell that it didn't come from digestion. I can't even
    look at food after a hard interval session.

    One more thing: growth hormone. Growth hormone is responsible for
    changes in body composition toward more muscle, less fat. The release
    of GH is linked to the /mental/ effort required to perform high
    intensity exercise. Slow, long running does not produce that mental
    effort, and so does not release GH. There is an adaptation that takes
    place; as you improve in sport, you have to work harder and harder to
    develop the psychological intensity that will release GH. This is one
    possible reason why running newbies see early body composition
    improvements which then taper off, usually well before achieving a
    ripped state. When they start, going just half a mile at a moderate
    pace may represent a significant psychological challenge, causing GH to
    be released. A few years later, they can practically snooze through a
    daily 8 mile run. Also when you're both overweight and inefficient, you
    do burn a lot more calories per mile.

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    Also, I've started training with some ultra-runners who are older
    50-ish types and many are overweight and definitely do not look like
    athletes.

    They are probably still eating like when they were 30, haven't been on
    a track in years, and have no clue what a 4-6 mile tempo run is.

    In general, the runner who have great bodies, first of all, are the
    ones who /care/ about having great bodies. They take fitness and body
    image seriously and work on it. They study, they manipulate their
    diets, they set ambitious performance goals and put together programs
    to reach them, etc. They aren't running just to meet people, feel
    great and whatever.

    Quoted message said:

    How can you run serious mileage and not look fit???

    Just a guess: by crawling through most of it at 8 minute per mile pace,
    while regularly stuffing your face at International House of Pancakes
    under the excuse of ``refueling''?

  6. Quoted message said:

    I just started running in races and ran a 1:29 Half Marathon (pretty
    good for a 43 yr old) among other trail races. I've noticed that some
    really fast runners have flabby or seemingly unfit bodytypes. I myself
    have a sprinters type lean, muscular body.

    For instance a guy who placed 2nd in a hard hilly 10 mile trail run is
    a slighty flabby 52 year old with no muscle tone! How is this
    possible??? He says he runs a 3:10 marathon!

    Also, I've started training with some ultra-runners who are older
    50-ish types and many are overweight and definitely do not look like
    athletes. How can you run serious mileage and not look fit???

    By running over 10 hours per week at a low intensity.

    Quoted message said:

    Some of
    these people have run the Western States 100!?!?!

    I imagine training for that involves lots of low-intensity running.
    Over the long term, that probably just makes some people more hungry
    and gives them a metabolism that is too efficient for their stomach.

    If you want to look good, you must use the right supplements, eat
    right, train at a high intensity, and possibly get a good plastic
    surgeon when you get older. Liposuction will solve a lot of problems
    that running just won't touch.

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