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TBF said:

upper stretch with no problems. Lot's of fallen trees and
new single track that people made as a detour around
them. Everything was going fine, well except for a major
lack of fitness on my part, and I suspect a few extra
pounds. Too much surf and turf, sushi, and french bread
all Winter for sure.

That spring windfall is always an annoyance. A lot of
stopping. Hope your crews are as good about cleaning them
out as they are where I live.

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I look down and I see this!
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Holy [censored]! I've never had an FS so I'm not sure, but that
looks like something that should almost never happen. Good
thing it happened on an easy section!

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My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't
do jumps or downhill, strictly XC.

What, you thought people would blame YOU for it? ;-)

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Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

How do you happen to have a swingarm of all things lying
around? :-)

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Wonder if Jamis is gonna replace the part ??!! Well this
will be a good test of the warranty/customer service of
the company.

Good luck!

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address, at least)

TBF said:

I look down and I see this!
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Yikes!

but.....

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Too much surf and turf, sushi, and french bread all Winter
for sure.

Any connection? Hmmmmm.....

;-)

Steve

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I look down and I see this!
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My swingarm is destroyed.

Hahahaha...how many people told you to stay away from Jamis
when you were pimping the hell out of that frame?

Cambria is having a sale on Titus frames, and you can get a
Turner Burner from Supergo for under a grand. Tell that kid
to forget videogames for a while - Daddy needs a new frame.

At least you didn't hurt yourself. Don't tell Jamis that,
though...tell them the failure caused you to wreck hard, and
you ended up smacking your head against a rock and bruising
your shoulder really bad. That way, they'll send you
whatever their "team" frame is, which you can Ebay for a
boatload, then apply said windfall to NRB (new real bike).

Chris

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How do you happen to have a swingarm of all things lying around? :-)

I'm just one of those dudes man...I think of the worst
possible scenario and plan for it. When I bought the frame,
I ordered a spare swingarm...just in case [censored] happens. Was
beginning to think I had wasted my money, but now that I
compare the new part with the old, I can see that the
section that broke was much thinner on the old part.

TBF said:

When I bought the frame, I ordered a spare swingarm...just
in case [censored] happens.

Is it common for swingarms to break?

BTW, checked out the website. Meaningless comments:
- Much humbler than I recall. ;-) Humility is a
virtue.
- Great pic at the top, but what are you dropping
off of? Almost looks like you just "happen" to be
perched on the front wheel!
- Looks like your main interest is why that damned
swingarm broke! (clicking on "Interests" links)
- Nice page about the music. No mention of Billie
Holliday? The pic on the top-left is awful fuzzy -
camera next to the amp? :-)

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I look down and I see this!
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My swingarm is destroyed.

Hahahaha...how many people told you to stay away from
Jamis when you were pimping the hell out of that frame?

c'mon be nice!

The frame is awesome man, no complaints until now. But your
damn right, I'm definitely getting a replacement at least
without paying for it.

I figure the frame has about 1 season left on it anyway,
then I'm buying a Blur (ya ya...go ahead and rant on that
one fellas. I rode one today and it's da [censored]!)

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TBF said:

When I bought the frame, I ordered a spare
swingarm...just in case [censored] happens.

Is it common for swingarms to break?

Well a buddy told me a few minutes ago that the Dakar Comps
had a swingarm recall early in 2002. The part was snapping
right where mine did whenever you were breaking hard. I
usually don't ram on the brakes but today I recall now that
my girl had to dab on one spot and I was caught off-guard
and yank on the rear brake like a hack.

Then again, I've riddent he fram two seasons almost and I'm
sure I've had to reach for a handful before now.

Oh well, I had a RM7 b4 and the swingarm gave me some
issues, after that I always bought an extra swingarm so I
don't miss weeks of riding waiting for a replacement part.

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I look down and I see this!
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It was probably already cracked part way through and
something just finished it off. If you look at the exposed
surfaces, there might be a dark part and a light part - the
dark part is what was already cracked (dark from oxidation
and dirt) and light is the fresh crack. Like in the pictures
of broken cranks at pardo.netFAILOpen ↗
001.html

Here's a particularly good shot of the light/dark feature:
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TBF said:

I look down and I see this!
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It was probably already cracked part way through and
something just finished it off. If you look at the exposed
surfaces, there might be a dark part and a light part -
the dark part is what was already cracked (dark from
oxidation and dirt) and light is the fresh crack. Like in
the pictures of broken cranks at pardo.netFAILOpen ↗
001.html

Here's a particularly good shot of the light/dark feature:
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Dang, that's nuts! (both (TBF's and the crank)

Didn't know Campy stuff was breakable.
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Slacker

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First ride of the season for us blokes in Southern
Ontario. It's been pissing rain and blowing snow for so
long now we were wondering when Spring would finally
arrive. Today it was 9 degrees and I planned to do an easy
ride to see about fitness and trail changes.

Been a long winter on the whole left side of the
continent, eh what?

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Got the bike, girl and car ready and headed off to the DVP
trail. Did the upper stretch with no problems. Lot's of
fallen trees and new single track that people made as a
detour around them. Everything was going fine, well except
for a major lack of fitness on my part, and I suspect a
few extra pounds. Too much surf and turf, sushi, and
french bread all Winter for sure.

Man, I hear you. My rides have hurt. Too much time on the
couch, and never even cracked out the trainer.

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I get to the end of the upper trail and meet my girl in
the parking lot at the bottom. Ya know...the usual how
have you been, anything new, kiss there, feel there. 20
minutes later off to do the lower loop. We start out slow
(she's not as confident on the lower part) and get about
halfway. She's in front of me dabbing and I'm checking out
her butt...(much better than I remember it last season,
god I'm a lucky [censored]!) when I hear a loud crack.
Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I
notice the rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.

I look down and I see this!
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Wow! Now that's amazing. And you "just happened to have
another?" That's almost equally amazing.

paladin

TBF said:

First ride of the season for us blokes in Southern
Ontario. It's been pissing rain and blowing snow for so
long now we were wondering when Spring would finally
arrive. Today it was 9 degrees and I planned to do an easy
ride to see about fitness and trail changes.

The "season" is just about to finish up for us hosers in
Central Arizona. We were hitting the mid to high 90's two
weeks ago and we were wondering why Spring was ending so
soon. It has cooled off this week a bit, but soon the full-
blown heat will arrive.

Enjoy.

John Morgan

Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have 3 FS bikes,Proflex
856, Proflex / K2 2000,and a K2 Attack 3.0. I keep them well
greased & lubed and never had any problems. They all have
been upgraded and all work done by myself.

I MTB 2004

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Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have 3
FS bikes,Proflex 856, Proflex / K2
2000,and a K2 Attack 3.0. I keep them well
greased & lubed and never had any
problems. They all have been upgraded and
all work done by myself.

I MTB 2004

Sealed bearings man, no lube needed

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Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have
3 FS

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Sealed bearings man, no lube needed

ROTFLMAO!

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Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have
3 FS bikes,Proflex 856, Proflex / K2
2000,and a K2 Attack 3.0. I keep them
well greased & lubed and never had any
problems. They all have been upgraded
and all work done by myself.

I MTB 2004

Sealed bearings man, no lube needed

Sealed bearings man, no rocks or sticks contaminate
your bearing.

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Did you ever lube that swingarm? I
have 3 FS

Sealed bearings man, no lube needed

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ROTFLMAO!

I don't believe in sealed bearings either. But how would
lubing the bearings keep the swingarm from cracking in the
middle? Could there possibly be enough stiction to stress
the swingarm?

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> Did you ever lube that swingarm? I
> have 3 FS
Sealed bearings man, no lube needed

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ROTFLMAO!

I don't believe in sealed bearings either. But how would
lubing the bearings keep the swingarm from cracking in the
middle? Could there possibly be enough stiction to stress
the swingarm?

I really really really doubt it.

Greg

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I don't believe in sealed bearings either. But how would
lubing the bearings keep the swingarm from cracking in
the middle? Could there possibly be enough stiction to
stress the swingarm?

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I really really really doubt it.

I didn't think so either - seems like the pivot would stop
functioning long before that became an issue (e.g. one
bearing fully seized). But I've never owned an FS so
wanted to avoid the syndrome of pontificating without
experience. On the other hand, this is Usenet - what could
I have been thinking?

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when I hear a loud crack. Thinking it was a branch or
twig, I keep riding until I notice the rear wheel is doing
a crab-walk.

I look down and I see this!
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My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't
do jumps or downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills
and an 8 year old to keep in XBOX and Gamecube games to be
risking time off work. I've ridden it about 1
1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to
fetch the car, and a half hour later I'm heading home in
disbelief wondering what it could have been like if that
had happend on a fast descent.

Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

From: TBF ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: Opinions for
the noob Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike Date: 2004-03-14
11:39:04 PST "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs
of other high end manufacters."

Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that
swingarm tells a different story.

From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden]) Subject: Re:
What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12
PST "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up
properly. I've been riding mine for months now and it's
tight and fast..."

..and broken.

From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden]) Subject: RR:
Riding in the rain Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike Date: 2003-04-
18 19:56:17 PST "The linkages on the Jamis are starting to
loosen up finally, so the ride is smooth but without any
"bobbing" for a change."

Looks like the linkages are not the issue, but shoddy
materials/workmanship. Funny how you had a spare swingarm
laying around for your "rock solid" bike.

From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden]) Subject: Re:
Gary Fisher Sugar 4 or Trek Fuel 80? Newsgroups: alt.mountain-
bike Date: 2003-04-13 17:41:06 PST "GF between the two, but
I would get a Jamis dakar for $750 and spend the rest of the
cash on gear"

Great advice for someone who wants a broken bike.

From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden]) Subject: Re:
Custom Jamis Dakar or Diamondback from LBS? Newsgroups: alt.mountain-
bike Date: 2003-04-01 17:43:22 PST "Jamis is the better deal
and the 15" may fit you but you should try one on for size
first. I have the Dakar Comp and it rocks!"

Yeah, it "rocks" alright, rocks to pieces.

From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden]) Subject: Re:
Entry level FS XC bike recommendation? Newsgroups: alt.mountain-
bike Date: 2003-03-27 14:21:38 PST "Jamis Dakar"

Blind brand loyalty is a funny thing.

From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden]) Subject: Re:
Ellsworth Truth versus Santa Cruz Blur Newsgroups: alt.mountain-
bike Date: 2003-03-23 07:23:23 PST "Jamis Dakar Comp XC
or Expert"

Hmmm, someone asks about smellsworthless and santa crud and
you go one lower. How entertaining.

From: TBF ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: BR: Built
up my Jamis Dakar Comp Frame Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-01-28 04:34:01 PST "I happen to have ridden a
number of other Jamis bikes over the years, the Comp is just
a new experience, and i can tell you, they are far from
crappy, otherwise I wouldn't have wasted my cash on it."

So far from crappy that they break often enough to keep a
spare swingarm around?

You're a riot.

JD