RR: FR1

"DaveB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Geoff said:

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Dutchy & Geoff must repeat 10x

I will not chase triatheletes
I will not chase triatheletes

Can I change that to " I will not upset triathletes by passing them as
they go up small rises in the road"

Geoff would it be safe to assume your missus doesn't read this? 😉

DaveB "dying to use the 'r' word"

Dave,

The missus does actually read this occasionally so I best watch what I say.
;-)
She's not the blinkered triathlete type. Thankfully she does realise there
other activities that involve bikes. How else do you think I personally get
away with having 3 bikes that live inside the house (I think I would be
pushing it if I slipped an off-roader in there as well, but the thought has
crossed my mind).

She has also riden my fixie (back in the days when it had gears) in quite a
few Triathlons.
Yes, I confess, my fixie in a prior life has participated in triathlons. Is
that bad???

Geoff

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Geoff said:

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What was that comment as you past the Tri-hardletes geoff?
somethin like "What's with the funny bikes?"

For those not there here's the long version..

[snip]

Geoff

I was sure there would be a long story - otherwise it would have just
been a troll. Evidently, the attitude of Beach Rd riders extends to
triathletes as well, sadly. I say sadly because there is a huge
contingent of triathletes that also happen to ride in road cycling
clubs - the display of derision by the particular triathletes in the
FR1 story is an example of those who just do one or the other. They
give us a bad name in the same way that aggressive road bunches on
Beach Rd gives roadies a bad name.

Hopefully their encounter with FR1 has caused them enlightenment and they
now know that "silly" bikes aren't so silly after all.

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I'd love to have a go at a fixie, but I'm only allowed to have one bike
by She Who Must Be Obeyed - I can't road race, commute and train for IM
on a fixie only...

Is it an expense issue? Surely it could not be a space issue could it?
Converting a servicable old road bike to a fixie is dirt cheap to do. In
your case, if the road bike rear hub was not suitable, re-lacing the back
wheel with a track hub would only set you back the cost of the hub and maybe
spokes if required. Don't worry about the weight of the bike either as
you're not going to be racing it. Mine comes in at around the 12kg mark

- You can use it for both commuting and some training.
- Commuting on it will save you $$$ (ie you won't be damaging or wearing out
the expensive tyres, running gear etc on your good race bike instead you'll
be able to use cheaper, heavier, longer lasting tyres and there no cassettes
to replace).
- You will develop a more efficient pedal stroke.
- You can leave the good bike at home on days when it's raining and get the
fixie dirty instead.
- It's less attractive to bike theives.
- It will be much more fun to ride
- It will "freak out" the die-hard roadies and triathletes when you ride
past them.
- It will go faster up hills than your road bike.

Has anyone else got anything to add to this list of "Reasons why Ritcho
should bring a fixie into his household?"

Geoff

Geoff said:

Has anyone else got anything to add to this list of "Reasons why Ritcho
should bring a fixie into his household?"

Geoff

Dunno about reasons for, but a reason against would be trouble coming up
with the right front/back combo. Damn the hills around here. I've been
trying to ride my MTB and road bike in one gear wherever possible to
work out what chainring/sprocket combination I should use on SS. Would
be fairly straightforward if I lived on Beach Rd, but struggling to work
it out on the hills. I want to force myself to spin more but don't want
it so low that I have no speed at all. Dutch what do you use on High St
for your commute?

DaveB

DaveB said:

Dunno about reasons for, but a reason against would be trouble coming up
with the right front/back combo. Damn the hills around here. I've been
trying to ride my MTB and road bike in one gear wherever possible to
work out what chainring/sprocket combination I should use on SS. Would
be fairly straightforward if I lived on Beach Rd, but struggling to work
it out on the hills. I want to force myself to spin more but don't want
it so low that I have no speed at all. Dutch what do you use on High St
for your commute?

I've got 32/15 on mine at the mo' Dave. You might need to take an "it's
just a cruise" attitude until you can spin like crazy chasing all the
roadies.. 🙂

Up hill, you're gonna have to get out of the saddle and do all of that
evil 'grinding' those roadies have been trying to avoid for years :S

You've got me worried about taking the ss on BR SE. I don't know the
roads out there so I'm gonna have to take a 'bailout map'.. or just
slick the gearie up..

I think the headset on the SS is finally trashed. The bike steers by
itself now 🙂

hippy

Geoff said:

[snip]

- You can use it for both commuting and some training.
- Commuting on it will save you $$$ (ie you won't be damaging or wearing out
the expensive tyres, running gear etc on your good race bike instead you'll
be able to use cheaper, heavier, longer lasting tyres and there no cassettes
to replace).
- You will develop a more efficient pedal stroke.
- You can leave the good bike at home on days when it's raining and get the
fixie dirty instead.
- It's less attractive to bike theives.
- It will be much more fun to ride
- It will "freak out" the die-hard roadies and triathletes when you ride
past them.
- It will go faster up hills than your road bike.

Has anyone else got anything to add to this list of "Reasons why Ritcho
should bring a fixie into his household?"

Geoff

It isn't really a space or a money issue - it is some kind of undefinable restriction, which makes it difficult to get around. I agree that it would be better for commuting. In Sydney, I have a few rolling hills on my commute, but nothing steep enough that I can't ride up in a 53/19. A 42/15 or 16 would probably work nicely.

I wonder how cheap I really _could_ do it? 🙂

Cheers,
Ritch

ritcho said:

Geoff said:

Has anyone else got anything to add to this list of "Reasons why
Ritcho should bring a fixie into his household?"

I wonder how cheap I really _could_ do it? 🙂

You need to start taking every duplicated item of your wife's and
throwing it in the bin.
"Shampoo AND conditioner? Not in this house missy!"
"TWO romantic comedy dvds.. not in here little lady"

As for 'how cheap', speak to Shabby when he's finished his 'Beer Fix' 🙂

hippy

Koon Yong said:

Aw shucks ...

In my 15 years of riding bikes, I've never owned a computer so I never really know how fast I'm going.

I had also never ridden in a bunch and probably pushed too much at the start of the ride with the headwind. But I recovered once we turned back and could at least stay with the bunch.

I've got a 16T cog handy so I'll be trying 44x16 for the next couple of days to see if i like it (rode 44x18 on the FR).

cheers
koon

Hey Koon. what/where/how much was that cule lil brake lever you had on 'the tops' ?

flyingdutch said:

Hey Koon. what/where/how much was that cule lil brake lever you had on 'the tops' ?

they're cyclocross levers and i don't know the brand dutchy. nick helped to get them for me through some UK online store. i think i paid $20 for one side and he kept the other. it's good in that it has a hinge clamp so you can remove the lever without sliding it out of the drops or have to remove your bar tape.

i have seen something like that by specialized at the "new" freedom machine on chapel st (used to be spin cycle) couple of months back. went for ~$40/pair but the hinge system wasn't very impressive.

shifter bikes has a very nice paul components one but very pricey at $125. but they come in 2 sizes (fit to regular or oversized bars)

shifterbikes.homestead.comPaulComponents.htmlOpen ↗

Koon

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 at 09:19 GMT, Geoff (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

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"flyingdutch" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What was that comment as you past the Tri-hardletes geoff?
somethin like "What's with the funny bikes?"

The two tri types catch up to me
and as they pass me one of them asks "what's with the silly bikes you guys
are riding?".

Oh! I thought you guys were asking *them* what were *they* riding the
funny bikes for. Bloody tri-hards 🙂

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

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DaveB said:

Dunno about reasons for, but a reason against would be trouble coming up
with the right front/back combo. Damn the hills around here. I've been
trying to ride my MTB and road bike in one gear wherever possible to
work out what chainring/sprocket combination I should use on SS. Would
be fairly straightforward if I lived on Beach Rd, but struggling to work
it out on the hills. I want to force myself to spin more but don't want
it so low that I have no speed at all. Dutch what do you use on High St
for your commute?

I've got 32/15 on mine at the mo' Dave. You might need to take an "it's
just a cruise" attitude until you can spin like crazy chasing all the
roadies.. 🙂

Up hill, you're gonna have to get out of the saddle and do all of that
evil 'grinding' those roadies have been trying to avoid for years :S

You've got me worried about taking the ss on BR SE. I don't know the
roads out there so I'm gonna have to take a 'bailout map'.. or just
slick the gearie up..

I think the headset on the SS is finally trashed. The bike steers by
itself now 🙂

hippy

Dave....I am running a 38/16 at the moment on my SS for commuting along the
Yarra Trail and it is not too bad. I did a similar thing to what you were
talking about and rode my mountain bike in one gear for a few commutes so
that I could work out roughly the ratio I was after. I find that it is not
too bad unless I am going hard on the flats where I "max out" pretty easily
and have to pedal like a mad man for 10 pedals or so and then glide for a
bit. The only hill that I have problems with on the commute in is the dirt
trail that runs next to the stairs at the Chandler Hwy. I do manage to get
up it but it is a pretty big effort and I usually nearly come to a complete
stop on the steepest bit.

Over the weekend I replaced my stem on the SS with a shorter one (110mm to
95mm) and I put on a set of riser bars that are about 30mm wider on each
side than the previous bars (gotta remember before splitting traffic or
bollards). I am now planning on changing the rear cog to make it 38/14 so
that I can go a bit quicker on the flats. (This will be about 12.5% higher
ratio).

I currently have the 27spd mtb in the shop getting my new rims laced up and
the LX hydraulic discs put on......can't wait to get it back for a
fang......

Ride On,

Gags

Rod said:

What was so special about the muffin? An added herbal ingredient?

nah. just fresh (still warm), big and a wicked mix. not too fluffy and lotsa 'stuff' inside

F "still dreamin(?) of amsterdam" Dutch

Gags said:

Over the weekend I replaced my stem on the SS with a shorter one (110mm to
95mm) and I put on a set of riser bars that are about 30mm wider on each
side than the previous bars (gotta remember before splitting traffic or
bollards).

How wide are they in total?

Quoted message said:

I am now planning on changing the rear cog to make it 38/14 so
that I can go a bit quicker on the flats. (This will be about 12.5% higher
ratio).

That hill you mentioned is gonna hurt 🙂

Quoted message said:

I currently have the 27spd mtb in the shop getting my new rims laced up and
the LX hydraulic discs put on......can't wait to get it back for a fang...

I ordered a DeoreLX groupset today. The GT SS is gonna be gear-a-fied!
It's also getting a new/rebuilt front wheel. I'm hoping to have separate
brake and shifter pods rather than the combo units. The groupset is
going to look WAAAY too good for the bike.. I'll need to coat it with
dust and [censored] before I take it OS! 🙂

hippy

hippy said:

ritcho said:

I wonder how cheap I really _could_ do it? 🙂

Quoted message said:

As for 'how cheap', speak to Shabby when he's finished his 'Beer Fix' 🙂

whats a rear hub cost? 'tis prolly all i need to make a spare 27" mungrel into a fixie 😉
that and a new chain...

cheers,

kim

aeek said:

Gemma_k said:

Buy a Suzue flip-flop hub, fixed/free. Track cog one side - freewheel
single-speed on the other. Turn/flip the wheel around, and bob's your
uncle
(i know, not as good as a switch!)

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Safer but. Imagine freewheeling and brainlessly flicking the switch.

doesn't that shimano nexus 7 speed internal have a "neutral"?

same problem?

cheers,

kim

Gemma_k said:

Buy a Suzue flip-flop hub, fixed/free. Track cog one side - freewheel
single-speed on the other. Turn/flip the wheel around, and bob's your uncle
(i know, not as good as a switch!)
Met a guy Neal in Las Vegas late last year. Has an incredible collection of
track p0rn, including some ultra-nice Suzue Promax sealed bearing hubs that
are fixed/free for sale. Now has an ebay store, tell him I sent you and you
want your stuff posted in a USPS prepaid $9 envelope... these are the nice
p0rn hubs, with a fancy sparkly label
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58099&item=7144425174&tc=photo

at 150$US these suckers are a tad on the spensive side! (for the 36 hole ones)

what other hubs are available local in AU?

cheers,

kim

kim said:

hippy said:

As for 'how cheap', speak to Shabby when he's finished his 'Beer Fix' 🙂

whats a rear hub cost? 'tis prolly all i need to make a spare 27" mungrel into a fixie 😉
that and a new chain...

You could pay "bugger all" to "fark!" for a proper track hub or you
could convert one of the older style screw-on hubs for the cost of a
track cog and some locktite.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/deakins/how-to-fixed-conversion.html#replace

If it's 27", it's highly likely to use the scew-on type hubs so you
could be in luck. I think Geoff's fixie uses this method?

hth
hippy

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In attendance:
Koon Yong
Flyingdutch
Geoff
PiledHigher
and me.

My total ended up at 61km - my longest fixie ride yet, by about 10kms.

Highlights:
Nasty headwind on the way out
Nice tailwind on the way home
Silly triathletes
The biggest collection of fixies in one place I've ever seen
and the apple and cinnamon muffin.

Thanks for a great ride guys. Hope you had a good time.
Next time, I'm hoping to have a few more inches, so to speak.

For the commemorative pic, see http://www.users.on.net/angrydwarf/fr1.jpg

Cheers.
-Nick

What was so special about the muffin? An added herbal ingredient?

hippy said:

Gags said:

Over the weekend I replaced my stem on the SS with a shorter one
(110mm to
95mm) and I put on a set of riser bars that are about 30mm wider on each
side than the previous bars (gotta remember before splitting traffic or
bollards).

How wide are they in total?

Quoted message said:

I am now planning on changing the rear cog to make it 38/14 so
that I can go a bit quicker on the flats. (This will be about 12.5%
higher
ratio).

That hill you mentioned is gonna hurt 🙂

Quoted message said:

I currently have the 27spd mtb in the shop getting my new rims laced
up and
the LX hydraulic discs put on......can't wait to get it back for a
fang...

I ordered a DeoreLX groupset today. The GT SS is gonna be gear-a-fied!
It's also getting a new/rebuilt front wheel. I'm hoping to have separate
brake and shifter pods rather than the combo units. The groupset is
going to look WAAAY too good for the bike.. I'll need to coat it with
dust and [censored] before I take it OS! 🙂

hippy

Get the factory dust finish. Doesn't cost much more 😉

--
Nick

hippy said:

kim said:

hippy said:

As for 'how cheap', speak to Shabby when he's finished his 'Beer Fix' 🙂

whats a rear hub cost? 'tis prolly all i need to make a spare 27"
mungrel into a fixie 😉
that and a new chain...

You could pay "bugger all" to "fark!" for a proper track hub or you
could convert one of the older style screw-on hubs for the cost of a
track cog and some locktite.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/deakins/how-to-fixed-conversion.html#replace

If it's 27", it's highly likely to use the scew-on type hubs so you
could be in luck. I think Geoff's fixie uses this method?

right then. theres no excuse then is there...

cheers,

kim
~ /me heads to shed to get hands dirty.

quote='hippy'ritcho said:

Geoff said:

Has anyone else got anything to add to this list of "Reasons why
Ritcho should bring a fixie into his household?"

I wonder how cheap I really _could_ do it? 🙂

You need to start taking every duplicated item of your wife's and
throwing it in the bin.
"Shampoo AND conditioner? Not in this house missy!"
"TWO romantic comedy dvds.. not in here little lady"

As for 'how cheap', speak to Shabby when he's finished his 'Beer Fix' 🙂

hippy[/QUOTE]
DANGER, DANGER....this is the point at which one husband may be considered to be one husband too many 😄

Only one way to safely increase the bike limit. Pay cash. Buy the new bike when there is a hard rubbish collection under way in your area. When introducing the new bike to the house, announce "You wouldn't believe what I just found!! How could someone throw something like this out? Unbelievable. I'm glad I came along in time to pick it up before someone else did."

Steve(3 Bike Limit at The Moment)A