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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bobo Bonobo(R) said:
    Mark Thorson said:
    MOMPEAGRAM said:

    Well it wasn't a happy 4th for us!

    Quoted message said:

    Our place in Texas was broken into and robbed as well as ransacked!

    The time to commit a crime is when the police
    are overloaded with other activities. Holidays
    and major natural disasters (earthquakes, forest
    fires, etc.) are examples.

    The time to commit a crime with a gun is when
    there's lots of other explosions to cover up
    the sound of gunfire, New Year's Eve and
    4th of July in the U.S.

    Here in St. Louis, we have a real problem with folks in low income
    neighborhoods firing guns up into the air to celebrate the New Year.
    Every year for several days before New Years Eve they run commercials
    discouraging it. The bullets don't just stay up. They eventually
    come down.

    --Bryan

    They usually come down within seconds, but it's still a very bad
    practice. :-P I may consider it with blanks but never with live rounds.

    It's idiots like that that give responsible gun owners a bad rap.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  2. Omelet said:

    Triple tap is even better...

    2 to center of mass and one to the head in case they are wearing body
    armor. I've seen more than one cop practicing those at the pistol
    range.

    It's almost scary.

    Hmm, David has just explained that.. in detail!!

    I am about to make dinner too🙁

  3. Sheldon said:


    Crank calls aren't nearly so serious as being published permitting the
    crooks and nutcases from knowing where you live... and today most
    crank calls are computer generated anyway (just a roulette wheel),
    there is no real malice or intent directed at a particular individual,
    telemarketers and crank callers are equal opportunity pests. I really
    don't see any security connection between caller ID and being
    unpublished; apples and oranges. Having to make a choice I'd always
    choose unpublished, I can hang up on a crank call but it's not so easy
    to prevent someone who knows how to physically find you from menacing
    you in a real way. Telemarketers/cranks are not seeking to burglarize
    your house. I've always maintained an unpublished number, since long
    before caller ID was a dream. Anyone who gives up their unpublished
    status because they think caller ID is a substitute is a fool.

    Oh, good grief! Does the word paranoia ring a bell?
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ophelia said:
    Omelet said:

    Triple tap is even better...

    2 to center of mass and one to the head in case they are wearing body
    armor. I've seen more than one cop practicing those at the pistol
    range.

    It's almost scary.

    Hmm, David has just explained that.. in detail!!

    I am about to make dinner too🙁

    Relax. :-)

    You are not a criminal so you will never have to worry about it!
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  5. Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ophelia said:
    Omelet said:

    Triple tap is even better...

    2 to center of mass and one to the head in case they are wearing
    body armor. I've seen more than one cop practicing those at the
    pistol range.

    It's almost scary.

    Hmm, David has just explained that.. in detail!!

    I am about to make dinner too🙁

    Relax. :-)

    You are not a criminal so you will never have to worry about it!

    <G>

  6. "Virginia Tadrzynski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    FBS had a stalker and that's how we knew who it was, an old girlfriend,
    all of 17 at the time, who was harassing him since the breakup. Like,
    yeah, I'll make your life miserable until we get back
    together..........one little visit from the police and lo and behold, no
    more calls in the middle of the night.
    -g

    Similar situation some years ago when we moved from Philly to CT. Caller ID
    was not invented yet and we got lots of hang up calls. They stopped
    abruptly when the kids parents got the phone bill listing all those long
    distance calls.

  7. "Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Kent said:

    I looked for instructions like that on their site and didn't find them.
    The
    above URL does give instructions about cooking a raw ham. It isn't at all
    clear on their product list "what cooked and is what isn't". The bottom
    line
    is that you should cook raw ham to an internal temp. of about 155-160F.
    You
    really can't do that with a 250F oven unless you're willing to sit about
    a
    very long time. Sorry for the confusion.

    Plus this term into Google: "Focus on Ham".

    Then after you read it, come back and revise or clarify
    everything you've said.

    -sw


    From the site:

    "TIMETABLE FOR COOKING HAM

    NOTE: Set oven temperature to 325 °F. Both cook-before-eating cured and
    fresh hams should be cooked to 160 °F. Reheat cooked hams packaged in
    USDA-inspected plants to 140 °F and all others to 165 °F."

    One doesn't cook an uncooked ham at 250F, and one does cook it to 155-160F.

    Kent

  8. Becca said:

    About every 2 weeks, I buy a spiral sliced ham at the supermarket. I
    bring it home and I cut the ham off the bone. I put the ham in one of
    those square, plastic Glad tupperware-type containers and I refrigerate
    it. I freeze the bone and I use that to cook beans, or cabbage, etc.
    Maybe I have been lucky, but the ham never seems to try out.

    You buy a ham 2x month? I buy this 1x year at the most. Just
    interesting...

    Karen

  9. Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ophelia said:
    Omelet said:

    Triple tap is even better...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2 to center of mass and one to the head in case they are wearing body
    armor. I've seen more than one cop practicing those at the pistol
    range.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's almost scary.

    Quoted message said:

    Hmm, David has just explained that.. in detail!!

    Quoted message said:

    I am about to make dinner too🙁

    Relax. :-)

    You are not a criminal so you will never have to worry about it!

    Unless the police have the wrong address ?

    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

  10. "John Kane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ophelia said:

    Omelet wrote:
    > Triple tap is even better...

    Quoted message said:

    > 2 to center of mass and one to the head in case they are wearing body
    > armor. I've seen more than one cop practicing those at the pistol
    > range.

    Quoted message said:

    > It's almost scary.

    Quoted message said:

    Hmm, David has just explained that.. in detail!!

    Quoted message said:

    I am about to make dinner too🙁

    Relax. :-)

    You are not a criminal so you will never have to worry about it!

    Unless the police have the wrong address ?

    <G>

  11. Kent said:

    "Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Kent said:

    I looked for instructions like that on their site and didn't find them.
    The
    above URL does give instructions about cooking a raw ham. It isn't at all
    clear on their product list "what cooked and is what isn't". The bottom
    line
    is that you should cook raw ham to an internal temp. of about 155-160F.
    You
    really can't do that with a 250F oven unless you're willing to sit about
    a
    very long time. Sorry for the confusion.

    Plus this term into Google: "Focus on Ham".

    Then after you read it, come back and revise or clarify
    everything you've said.


    From the site:

    "TIMETABLE FOR COOKING HAM

    NOTE: Set oven temperature to 325 °F. Both cook-before-eating cured and
    fresh hams should be cooked to 160 °F. Reheat cooked hams packaged in
    USDA-inspected plants to 140 °F and all others to 165 °F."

    One doesn't cook an uncooked ham at 250F, and one does cook it to 155-160F.

    250F works just fine for reheating a cooked ham to 130-140F.
    Otherwise you'd dry out the outside before the inside gets warm.
    That happens to be the same temperature I cook whole shoulders
    and butts either in the oven or the smoker.

    Regardless, I wasn't arguing the temperature. I'm arguing your
    perpetual, pig-headed ignorance towards learning to distinguish
    between cooked, uncooked (but still cured and smoked), and
    wet-cured (city) vs dry-cured (country)hams.

    -sw

  12. "Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    MOMPEAGRAM said:

    Well it wasn't a happy 4th for us!

    Our place in Texas was broken into and robbed as well as ransacked!

    I'm sorry. :-(
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack
    Nicholson

    Thanks Om!

    Helen

  13. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MOMPEAGRAM said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 5, 11:44?am, "kilikini" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > MOMPEAGRAM wrote:
    > > Well it wasn't a happy 4th for us!

    Quoted message said:

    > > Our place in Texas was broken into and robbed as well as
    > > ransacked!

    Quoted message said:

    > Oh, how lovely. :-( I am so sorry to hear this. Have you made a
    > list of
    > what is missing? It may be difficult to determine, I know. When I
    > was
    > broken into, I'd still find things missing up to a few weeks later.
    > I
    > just
    > kept calling the police to add the items to the report.

    Quoted message said:

    > Good luck and I hope they catch the guys who did this.

    Quoted message said:

    Geeze, that sucks.

    Quoted message said:

    Chances are they won't catch the thieves, not unless there was
    anything valuable and out of the ordinary taken, something that would
    send up a red flag when it was attempted to be disposed of. Everyone
    should take lots of pictures of everything they own, all valuables,
    room by room, wall by wall, open each closet, each dresser drawer,
    every cabinet... basement, attic, garage, everything outdoors, even
    inside your car trunk. Then upload all your pics to a photo website,
    there are plenty of free ones. And take tons of pictures, with
    digicams it's easy, it's free.

    Quoted message said:

    I hope they catch the thief, but don't hold your breath... your stuff
    is probably all gone by now, traded for drugs.

    Quoted message said:

    Sheldon

    That's what we do but the dumbest was not listening to my inner voice
    to
    insure before we left. And I know it was dumb!

    What do you mean by "insure before we left"? So now I'm assuming you
    rent. Everyone who rents needs renter's insurance, from day one.
    Renter's insurance is very inexpensive (less than $1/day). It's very
    good that you didn't take out a policy just before you left on your
    trip. Had you done that you very likely would have been arrested on
    suspician of commiting or orchestrating that burglary.

    Btw, the vast majority of rental burglaries are inside jobs... odds
    are 999 to 1 that you or someone in your household knows the
    burglar(s). The fact that the burglary just happened to occur during
    a planned trip increases those odds a thousand fold.

    Right now (today!) call your insurance company and take out a renter's
    policy... your auto ins company can handle it. No one should ever
    advertise that they are going away (especially not on the net), tell
    your friends after you return.

    Sheldon


    No we don't rent Sheldon. We own the place. That's why I feel so dumb!

    MoM

  14. "MOMPEAGRAM" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    No we don't rent Sheldon. We own the place. That's why I feel so dumb!

    Have you been able to find out more of how much you lost?
    It really stinks that this happened to you.

    nancy

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