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  1. Nice work...and in Canada, too!

    Excuse me judge, I would like to call your attention to Quebec Vs Murde
    Mental....

    We'll be walking (riding) away free from all offenses now!

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  2. congrats! if you hadn't won, i think i woulda driven up to canada or
    wherever you are and protested by riding around infront of the station.

    -grant

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  3. The judge agreed 100% with me and the prosecutor had nothing to say!
    NOTHING!... No cross-examination! nothing!

    If he decides to pick on me again...I just might laugh....i
    shouldn't....but I'll probably end up doing something like that...

    Well, I'm glad to have my freedom back...and my squeaky-clean
    record....and my honnor.....and most of all....my...umm...my.... I think
    I pretty much said it all....

    (Man this unicyclist community thing is awesome!)

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  4. Murde Mental said:

    *You see my dads a Lawyer and has lawyer contacts that are looking for
    a little fun..... *

    Ah! A secret weapon. 😄

    So what was the argument? Was it that unicycles are not defined in the
    law so cannot be lumped in with the bicycling laws? Or was it that
    unicycles are not defined in the law so you cannot lump them in with
    bicycle laws in one situation or skateboard laws in a different
    situation just to suit the mood of the police officer?

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  5. Congrats. If only this could be useful in the future somehow... Maybe
    keep a good record of the court? Share them with us so it won't get
    lost.

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  6. Murde Mental said:

    *Well, I'm glad to have my freedom back...and my squeaky-clean
    record....and my honnor.....and most of all....my...umm...my.... I
    think I pretty much said it all....*

    You may take our freedom... but you'll never take our UNICYCLES!!!

    Erm...

    Phil

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  7. I too have been harassed by Omaha police as well as campus security that
    I cannot unicycle in public parks or on campus at Nebraska at Omaha.

    When I was in NYC a few months back I found this article in Time Out New
    York about the NY Unicycle Club.

    The owner of the NYCUC fought and won a ticket he received for
    unicycling on the city street.

    http://tinyurl.com/26tz2

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  8. Owen aren't you only around about 15 or 16, a record wouldnt have been
    anything you would have recieved, it would have just been that fine. I
    believe

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  9. Owen aren't you only around about 15 or 16, a record wouldnt have been
    anything you would have recieved, it would have just been that fine. I
    believe

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  10. In britain it seems we now have to abide by all the laws regarding
    bicycles.

    All the sites I have found before said that a unicycle was not mentioned
    under the law, but according to the 'UUU,'
    (http://www.unicycle.org.uk/thelaw.html) the law changed in 1994, and
    now it is. Although I did persuade a policeman to leave me alone last
    year by quoting the old law!

    I suppose being regulated by the law is the price we have to pay for the
    sport growing in popularity, but it would be nice if some of the laws
    were a little more sensible

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  11. In my own experience, I have been threatened by security guards in a
    mall because I was juggling. Being a generally non-confrontational
    person, I acquiesced to their demands and left as soon as I could.

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  12. theamazingmolio said:

    *

    I suppose being regulated by the law is the price we have to pay for
    the sport growing in popularity *

    Not growing in popularity, per se, but having more and more people
    ruining public things with pedal grabs, or falling in front of
    pedestrians, etc... would be a much larger concern, I think

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  13. (Sorry, but I've been out of it lately...)
    Congratulations Owen! I'm glad that it all turned out for the best. It
    really was unfair.

    Now, for a word of warning: They can't prosecute you for the things
    mentioned. Yet. If you cause too many troubles and laugh at the
    security guards, they can change the law to include unicycles. It
    sounds like they are pretty uptight as they are, and I wouldn't do
    anything to provoke them if you can help it, because they just might try
    and change things specifically to include you. But as long as you keep
    a low profile, you should be invicible for now.

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  14. (Mind the implied use of the f**** word)

    WHAT THE F***!!!??
    You call THIS freedom!?
    This is SERIOUSLY getting out of hand!

    ok, here's the deal: I'm out enjoying a beautifull sunshinny day on my
    unicycle for the first time in weeks...boy, it's getting hot...maybe I
    should grab a slush-puppy..so I did..Here I am riddin' infront of the
    7eleven with my slush...the owner is standing next to me smoking a
    cigarette, all is good...So I ride off to the park on the other side of
    the road...I sit down, enjoying every sip of my slush, yup, life is
    good.....

    I get back up, I guess I'll find somewhere to ride.... BEEEEEP!....?
    what's that?... BEEEEEEP! I turn around. I see a line up of not one, not
    two but THREE public security vans! they all park their cars, get out
    and kinda encircle me.

    turns out they got a call from the 7 eleven sayin there was some
    teenager messing around infront of his store...

    What an A**-HOLE!!! He could've just TOLD ME!! F***ing hypocrite!

    So yeah, I got off (again) with another warning but if I use my 20"
    TRIALS unicycle for anything but getting from A to B they're gonna get
    me for disturbing the peace, destroying public property (which I NEVER
    did. I am NOT a vandal!) or simply change the by-laws to include
    unicycles (which is clearly against my rights, you can't change laws
    just to atttack a minority)

    So yeah, I'm screwed...

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  15. Oh, and I NEVER laugh or disrespect figures of authority...
    exept when they're not there to do anything about it...

    Oh, and I'm not allowed to climb trees either!? What the hell?
    what CAN I do then?

    The reason for not being allowed to climb trees is because they don't
    want me to injure myself (how thoughtfull of them....a**-holes... ) and
    then sue the city..

    all this seems anti-democratic.... they're inventing laws to protect the
    system and not the people's freedom...

    This is not how it's goin down...oh no...I guaranty you that... This is
    NOT how it's goin down!

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  16. Murde Mental said:

    *they're gonna get me for disturbing the peace, destroying public
    property (which I NEVER did. I am NOT a vandal!)*


    Am I just being naive if I point out that they can threaten that, but to
    actually charge you with anything they would have to prove it to a
    sufficient standard. Not sure what though. It's 'beyond all reasonable
    doubt' here but it's probably a bit different for different places. The
    principal should still hold though.

    John

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  17. Murde Mental said:

    *all this seems anti-democratic.... they're inventing laws to protect
    the system and not the people's freedom...
    *

    Dude, You live in Canada. They are approaching communism as fast as
    they can. When people embrace security more than freedom what can you
    expect? That's why you have national healthcare. Security>Freedom

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  18. Just so you don't feel bad Murde, i'm not sure that uni's are allowed
    at cookie faces park either, cause it says no bikes, but I guess the
    interpratation on thats up to the police.

    I've been to the park in Denver, be carefull the police make regular
    stops there I think, it's kinda fun to see all the kids scrambling for
    helmets, but I don't think it's asking too much. I kinda wonder if maybe
    we should see if unicycles would be allowed, and tell them that it's not
    as dangerous as it looks, it would be cool to play around on that stuff.

    Oh yeah, the one day I did have my uni there, back when I could ride it
    pretty decent, but not well in stones. A couple of the skaters tried it,
    that was cool.

    anyways, I was gonna say something else I think, but I forget now.

    Andrew

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  19. KJ-52 said:

    *it would be cool to play around on that stuff.

    *

    It definetly was... looks like I'm luckey I didn't get kicked out of 2
    places by the police yesterday...

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