Re: Squirrels - can't kill 'em (pass the beer nuts).

[Bill H.]

On Apr 19, 12:01 pm, Camilo <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 9:22 am, bdbafh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-11/117695948626448...
>
> > Student aims gun at squirrels and is arrested
>
> > "Two days after the massacre at Virginia Tech, a student at an elite
> > New Jersey boarding school was arrested yesterday after he was seen
> > aiming what appeared to be a handgun from the window of his campus
> > residence.
>
> > The weapon, authorities said, was later determined to be a plastic
> > pellet gun. The student's target: squirrels. "
>
> I try to exterminate every squirrel I see around my house. To me they
> have the same staus as other vermin such as rats and mice,
>
> That said, It seems obvious that anyone brandishing a weapon for any
> reason, however harmless, at a school should be immediately called on
> it. The guy is going to find another way to kill the furry rats -
> maybe a powerful sling shot with a couple of 00 buck shot pellets.

I don't care for squirrels very much myself. But as long as they
leave me alone, I'll leave them alone.

Oh, and I don't necessarily know that I trust that this kid was
shooting at squirrels. He could have been shooting at
anything...light bulbs....windows....other students. In any event,
he's a moron, and a swift trip to the pokey might be enough to knock
some sense into him.

 

[Bill]

Bill H. wrote:
> On Apr 19, 12:01 pm, Camilo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Apr 19, 9:22 am, bdbafh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-11/117695948626448...
>>> Student aims gun at squirrels and is arrested
>>> "Two days after the massacre at Virginia Tech, a student at an elite
>>> New Jersey boarding school was arrested yesterday after he was seen
>>> aiming what appeared to be a handgun from the window of his campus
>>> residence.
>>> The weapon, authorities said, was later determined to be a plastic
>>> pellet gun. The student's target: squirrels. "
>> I try to exterminate every squirrel I see around my house. To me they
>> have the same staus as other vermin such as rats and mice,

That puts you on my vermin list. I make pets out of them and they are
very friendly once they get to know you. The local squirrels chatter a
bit much, but they have a right to 'talk'.
>>
>> That said, It seems obvious that anyone brandishing a weapon for any
>> reason, however harmless, at a school should be immediately called on
>> it. The guy is going to find another way to kill the furry rats -
>> maybe a powerful sling shot with a couple of 00 buck shot pellets.

Yeah, the kid was/is an idiot and should be shot in the ass with a few
of his own pellets.
>
> I don't care for squirrels very much myself. But as long as they
> leave me alone, I'll leave them alone.

I had a lot of them in Minnesota since I had a house in the woods.
My wife set up a feeder for the squirrels and birds just outside the
kitchen window and I got some great shots with my 35mm. She also managed
to befriend a raccoon family to the point where the babies would eat out
of her hand. This is in line with my make friends with the dogs policy,
so at least I know when they come out to me on my bike it is for petting
and not chasing. What goes around usually comes back.
>
> Oh, and I don't necessarily know that I trust that this kid was
> shooting at squirrels. He could have been shooting at
> anything...light bulbs....windows....other students. In any event,
> he's a moron, and a swift trip to the pokey might be enough to knock
> some sense into him.
>
Nah.
Strip him down to his shorts and let him be a paint ball target for a
while. He'll get the point after a shot or two.
We had some idiot in my town today call and threaten to make the
shootings a few days back look small. Exciting day around here, with the
police (all of them, I think) driving around looking for him.
Just proves there are more idiots in this world than you think.
Bill Baka
Multiple gun owner, haven't shot one in 20 years.
Nice decorations though.
Peace!

 

[Curtis L. Russell]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:13:52 GMT, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>That puts you on my vermin list. I make pets out of them and they are
>very friendly once they get to know you. The local squirrels chatter a
>bit much, but they have a right to 'talk'.

I'm from farm country and squirrels are large rodents with bushy
tails. Not much for cute rabbits either. OTOH, with two Scotties, I
don't really need a air rifle - the vermin are on borrowed time.

Had a Spitz that killed his first rabbit on Easter. It wasn't cool
that he was parading around our back yard with the dead rabbit just as
the kids next door did their Easter egg hunt. I know they weren't too
sure if it was the last egg hunt or what...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

 

[Bill]

Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:13:52 GMT, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That puts you on my vermin list. I make pets out of them and they are
>> very friendly once they get to know you. The local squirrels chatter a
>> bit much, but they have a right to 'talk'.
>
> I'm from farm country and squirrels are large rodents with bushy
> tails. Not much for cute rabbits either. OTOH, with two Scotties, I
> don't really need a air rifle - the vermin are on borrowed time.

I should have known, a farmer. You guys live in a different world where
if it can't be butchered and sold it is vermin. I visited my dad in
Arkansas and the end result of killing off the 'vermin' was that the
only wildlife left was an occasional Armadillo road kill. Damned Arkies
extinctified every thing else.
>
> Had a Spitz that killed his first rabbit on Easter. It wasn't cool
> that he was parading around our back yard with the dead rabbit just as
> the kids next door did their Easter egg hunt. I know they weren't too
> sure if it was the last egg hunt or what...

I am definitely NOT on you side here.
Bill Baka
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...

 

[Bill]

Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:13:52 GMT, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That puts you on my vermin list. I make pets out of them and they are
>> very friendly once they get to know you. The local squirrels chatter a
>> bit much, but they have a right to 'talk'.
>
> I'm from farm country and squirrels are large rodents with bushy
> tails. Not much for cute rabbits either. OTOH, with two Scotties, I
> don't really need a air rifle - the vermin are on borrowed time.

I should have known, a farmer. You guys live in a different world where
if it can't be butchered and sold it is vermin. I visited my dad in
Arkansas and the end result of killing off the 'vermin' was that the
only wildlife left was an occasional Armadillo road kill. Damned Arkies
extinctified every thing else.
>
> Had a Spitz that killed his first rabbit on Easter. It wasn't cool
> that he was parading around our back yard with the dead rabbit just as
> the kids next door did their Easter egg hunt. I know they weren't too
> sure if it was the last egg hunt or what...

I am definitely NOT on your side here.
Bill Baka
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...

 

[Curtis L. Russell]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:02:39 GMT, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I should have known, a farmer. You guys live in a different world where
>if it can't be butchered and sold it is vermin. I visited my dad in
>Arkansas and the end result of killing off the 'vermin' was that the
>only wildlife left was an occasional Armadillo road kill. Damned Arkies
>extinctified every thing else.

Mostly grain, actually and long ago. More reason to dislike rodents.
And just a service to all of you out there that hate rodent droppings
in your bread.

And I don't much like armadillos, either. But the one you don't want
to hit on a hot Texas summer day is one of those big vultures, like
right after they've lifted off from fine dining. Make you forget all
about the day the skunk got wrapped up in the ventilator.

Never understood what it was about Texas - the road is wide open, the
air is (generally) clear, yet all sorts of wildlife insist on being
nailed. Maybe going 100 mph in the slow lane was the problem. Around
here in Maryland, about all you CAN hit are turtles, snakes and deer
in the season. You even have to drive into DC to get a real shot at
hitting a squirrel.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

 

[Camilo]

On Apr 19, 9:13 pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nah.
> Strip him down to his shorts and let him be a paint ball target for a
> while. He'll get the point after a shot or two.
> We had some idiot in my town today call and threaten to make the
> shootings a few days back look small. Exciting day around here, with the
> police (all of them, I think) driving around looking for him.
> Just proves there are more idiots in this world than you think.
> Bill Baka
> Multiple gun owner, haven't shot one in 20 years.
> Nice decorations though.
> Peace!

Yea, peace indeed. You're a real humanitarian, protecting wild
vermin, but torturing a kid. Yes, there are more idiots in this world
than maybe you think, but I'm never surprised at how many idiots there
are.

Do you feed and cuddle with rats and mice? Wtat's the difference with
squirrels -they're nothing but destructive pests. But I hear they can
be tasty if prepared properly. I suppose that as is true with all
wild food, it depends on what they've been eating.

 

[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
Camilo <[email protected]> writes:
> On Apr 19, 9:13 pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Nah.
>> Strip him down to his shorts and let him be a paint ball target for a
>> while. He'll get the point after a shot or two.
>> We had some idiot in my town today call and threaten to make the
>> shootings a few days back look small. Exciting day around here, with the
>> police (all of them, I think) driving around looking for him.
>> Just proves there are more idiots in this world than you think.
>> Bill Baka
>> Multiple gun owner, haven't shot one in 20 years.
>> Nice decorations though.
>> Peace!
>
> Yea, peace indeed. You're a real humanitarian, protecting wild
> vermin, but torturing a kid.

That's okay; here he talks about making friends with
doggies, but in the guns thread he talks about packing
a .22 to shoot 'em.

> Yes, there are more idiots in this world
> than maybe you think, but I'm never surprised at how many idiots there
> are.
>
> Do you feed and cuddle with rats and mice? Wtat's the difference with
> squirrels -they're nothing but destructive pests. But I hear they can
> be tasty if prepared properly. I suppose that as is true with all
> wild food, it depends on what they've been eating.

Squirrels are especially cute when they start
nesting in your attic where they hold nightly
bocci tournaments with acorns rolling across
the ceiling right over your bed, and gnaw
through your wiring.


cheers,
Tom

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[Brian Huntley]

On Apr 20, 12:13 am, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My wife set up a feeder for the squirrels and birds just outside the
> kitchen window and I got some great shots with my 35mm.

That's one HUGE caliber! I've never fired anything larger than about
12mm, myself.

(Not counting 3"/50 guns, which are only used against flying
squirrels.)

 

[Camilo]

On Apr 20, 5:03 pm, [email protected] (Tom Keats) wrote:

>
> Squirrels are especially cute when they start
> nesting in your attic where they hold nightly
> bocci tournaments with acorns rolling across
> the ceiling right over your bed, and gnaw
> through your wiring.
>
> cheers,
> Tom

That's exactly why I consider them pests - destruction of walls and
wiring. Yes, there's nothing that makes my blood boil more than being
woke up by a squirrel in the wall or ceiling.

 

[Bill]

Camilo wrote:
> On Apr 19, 9:13 pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Nah.
>> Strip him down to his shorts and let him be a paint ball target for a
>> while. He'll get the point after a shot or two.
>> We had some idiot in my town today call and threaten to make the
>> shootings a few days back look small. Exciting day around here, with the
>> police (all of them, I think) driving around looking for him.
>> Just proves there are more idiots in this world than you think.
>> Bill Baka
>> Multiple gun owner, haven't shot one in 20 years.
>> Nice decorations though.
>> Peace!
>
> Yea, peace indeed. You're a real humanitarian, protecting wild
> vermin, but torturing a kid. Yes, there are more idiots in this world
> than maybe you think, but I'm never surprised at how many idiots there
> are.

Perhaps you misinterpreted what I was actually aiming at. The profiles
of many murderers are that they start out shooting small animals and
then graduate to shooting people. If you punish the kid before the habit
becomes part of his personality then you have less chance of being the
parent that raised a rapist/murderer/whatever.
>
> Do you feed and cuddle with rats and mice?
My daughter had a pet rat that used to love getting rides on her
shoulder. I have had mice in my house in Minnesota that just barely
squeezed in through the oil tank fill hole for the main heater. The
squirrels were kind enough to stay outside and be fed.

Wtat's the difference with
> squirrels -they're nothing but destructive pests. But I hear they can
> be tasty if prepared properly. I suppose that as is true with all
> wild food, it depends on what they've been eating.
>
I've eaten squirrel and rabbit and neither impressed me as gourmet.
I shot down a duck with my .22 rifle about 20 years ago, freak lucky
shot, and it tasted too tough since it was a flying bird. The how I shot
it down is the weird part. I told my stepson I could take out a bird
with the .22 and he laughed at that. I just swiveled the gun straight up
while walking and looking ahead and damned if I didn't actually nail a
duck about 300 feet over our heads. Even if I had aimed I don't think I
could have hit it, so it was just blind luck that we had duck for dinner.

I like squirrels for pets since they can just climb up your pants
without shredding you, like my cat tries to do once in a while.
Bill Baka

 

[Bill]

Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Camilo <[email protected]> writes:
>> On Apr 19, 9:13 pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Nah.
>>> Strip him down to his shorts and let him be a paint ball target for a
>>> while. He'll get the point after a shot or two.
>>> We had some idiot in my town today call and threaten to make the
>>> shootings a few days back look small. Exciting day around here, with the
>>> police (all of them, I think) driving around looking for him.
>>> Just proves there are more idiots in this world than you think.
>>> Bill Baka
>>> Multiple gun owner, haven't shot one in 20 years.
>>> Nice decorations though.
>>> Peace!
>> Yea, peace indeed. You're a real humanitarian, protecting wild
>> vermin, but torturing a kid.
>
> That's okay; here he talks about making friends with
> doggies, but in the guns thread he talks about packing
> a .22 to shoot 'em.

That would be reserved for the really big ones who don't want to get petted.
>
>> Yes, there are more idiots in this world
>> than maybe you think, but I'm never surprised at how many idiots there
>> are.
>>
>> Do you feed and cuddle with rats and mice? Wtat's the difference with
>> squirrels -they're nothing but destructive pests. But I hear they can
>> be tasty if prepared properly. I suppose that as is true with all
>> wild food, it depends on what they've been eating.
>
> Squirrels are especially cute when they start
> nesting in your attic where they hold nightly
> bocci tournaments with acorns rolling across
> the ceiling right over your bed, and gnaw
> through your wiring.

That doesn't bother me as much as having cat fights on the roof at 3:00 A.M.
>
>
> cheers,
> Tom
>
We have about 20 cats and three squirrels in my 'hood.
Bill Baka

 

[Bill]

Camilo wrote:
> On Apr 20, 5:03 pm, [email protected] (Tom Keats) wrote:
>
>> Squirrels are especially cute when they start
>> nesting in your attic where they hold nightly
>> bocci tournaments with acorns rolling across
>> the ceiling right over your bed, and gnaw
>> through your wiring.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Tom
>
> That's exactly why I consider them pests - destruction of walls and
> wiring. Yes, there's nothing that makes my blood boil more than being
> woke up by a squirrel in the wall or ceiling.
>
It sounds like your house is in need of repair. You can keep a squirrel
out (too big for a small hole) but the mice can get into anything they
can squeeze into.
Bill Baka

 

[Bill]

Brian Huntley wrote:
> On Apr 20, 12:13 am, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My wife set up a feeder for the squirrels and birds just outside the
>> kitchen window and I got some great shots with my 35mm.
>
> That's one HUGE caliber! I've never fired anything larger than about
> 12mm, myself.
>
> (Not counting 3"/50 guns, which are only used against flying
> squirrels.)
>
>
>
My dad used to command a howitzer 150mm group but he never let me play
with them, darn. The biggest thing I have fired is a .60 caliber ball
shot 1820's replica, or my 12 gage.
Bill Baka