More On Squirrels (OT for some)

[Bill Sornson]

"Pat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>>
>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on
>> the one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry
>> guns just to even it up for you.
>
> For Your info, Diablo was the one with the vegetables. I kill or trap
> squirrels because I have two pecan trees and I am tired of not getting a
> single pecan from them! The squirrels take the pecans while still in the
> green husk stage. AND, I have two mature Red Oak trees in the yard with
> jillions of acorns but the squirrels take only the pecans. Enough is
> enough!

Yeah, that excuses killing them or trapping (injuring no doubt) them and
releasing them on a nearby golf course.

Selfish and cruel much?

 

[Bill Sornson]

"Pat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>>
>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on
>> the one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry
>> guns just to even it up for you.
>
> For Your info, Diablo was the one with the vegetables. I kill or trap
> squirrels because I have two pecan trees and I am tired of not getting a
> single pecan from them! The squirrels take the pecans while still in the
> green husk stage. AND, I have two mature Red Oak trees in the yard with
> jillions of acorns but the squirrels take only the pecans. Enough is
> enough!

Yeah, that excuses killing them or trapping (injuring no doubt) them and
releasing them on a nearby golf course.

Selfish and cruel much?

 

[Bill Sornson]

"Pat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>>
>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on
>> the one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry
>> guns just to even it up for you.
>
> For Your info, Diablo was the one with the vegetables. I kill or trap
> squirrels because I have two pecan trees and I am tired of not getting a
> single pecan from them! The squirrels take the pecans while still in the
> green husk stage. AND, I have two mature Red Oak trees in the yard with
> jillions of acorns but the squirrels take only the pecans. Enough is
> enough!

Yeah, that excuses killing them or trapping (injuring no doubt) them and
releasing them on a nearby golf course.

Selfish and cruel much?

 

[Diablo Scott]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> "Pat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on
>>> the one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry
>>> guns just to even it up for you.

>> For Your info, Diablo was the one with the vegetables. I kill or trap
>> squirrels because I have two pecan trees and I am tired of not getting a
>> single pecan from them! The squirrels take the pecans while still in the
>> green husk stage. AND, I have two mature Red Oak trees in the yard with
>> jillions of acorns but the squirrels take only the pecans. Enough is
>> enough!
>
> Yeah, that excuses killing them or trapping (injuring no doubt) them and
> releasing them on a nearby golf course.
>
> Selfish and cruel much?
>
>


I do kill the rats that get into my garden (traps not poison), I'm an
animal lover but rats just don't count; especially when they're getting
into my food supply. They come from the big empty field behind my
neighbor's house. The rats tend to go for the squashes and the grapes.

We'll always loose some crops to critters; coons, birds, bugs. The
squirrels eat the immature tomatoes and cherries; they really can wipe
out a lot of fruits and vegetables. They don't seem to be too
traumatized by spending some time in the trap, and only one had a minor
injury from trying to get out. So far, none of them have turned to
attack me on release. I sincerely hope they find new living
accommodations at the open space where I drop them off - and sometimes
ride my bike!

Also, I ran over a squirrel on my bike once, at slow speed, both wheels
(unavoidable). He kind of made a pitiful little squeak but then ran off
the road without visible sign of damage.

 

[Diablo Scott]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> "Pat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on
>>> the one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry
>>> guns just to even it up for you.

>> For Your info, Diablo was the one with the vegetables. I kill or trap
>> squirrels because I have two pecan trees and I am tired of not getting a
>> single pecan from them! The squirrels take the pecans while still in the
>> green husk stage. AND, I have two mature Red Oak trees in the yard with
>> jillions of acorns but the squirrels take only the pecans. Enough is
>> enough!
>
> Yeah, that excuses killing them or trapping (injuring no doubt) them and
> releasing them on a nearby golf course.
>
> Selfish and cruel much?
>
>


I do kill the rats that get into my garden (traps not poison), I'm an
animal lover but rats just don't count; especially when they're getting
into my food supply. They come from the big empty field behind my
neighbor's house. The rats tend to go for the squashes and the grapes.

We'll always loose some crops to critters; coons, birds, bugs. The
squirrels eat the immature tomatoes and cherries; they really can wipe
out a lot of fruits and vegetables. They don't seem to be too
traumatized by spending some time in the trap, and only one had a minor
injury from trying to get out. So far, none of them have turned to
attack me on release. I sincerely hope they find new living
accommodations at the open space where I drop them off - and sometimes
ride my bike!

Also, I ran over a squirrel on my bike once, at slow speed, both wheels
(unavoidable). He kind of made a pitiful little squeak but then ran off
the road without visible sign of damage.

 

[Diablo Scott]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> "Pat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on
>>> the one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry
>>> guns just to even it up for you.

>> For Your info, Diablo was the one with the vegetables. I kill or trap
>> squirrels because I have two pecan trees and I am tired of not getting a
>> single pecan from them! The squirrels take the pecans while still in the
>> green husk stage. AND, I have two mature Red Oak trees in the yard with
>> jillions of acorns but the squirrels take only the pecans. Enough is
>> enough!
>
> Yeah, that excuses killing them or trapping (injuring no doubt) them and
> releasing them on a nearby golf course.
>
> Selfish and cruel much?
>
>


I do kill the rats that get into my garden (traps not poison), I'm an
animal lover but rats just don't count; especially when they're getting
into my food supply. They come from the big empty field behind my
neighbor's house. The rats tend to go for the squashes and the grapes.

We'll always loose some crops to critters; coons, birds, bugs. The
squirrels eat the immature tomatoes and cherries; they really can wipe
out a lot of fruits and vegetables. They don't seem to be too
traumatized by spending some time in the trap, and only one had a minor
injury from trying to get out. So far, none of them have turned to
attack me on release. I sincerely hope they find new living
accommodations at the open space where I drop them off - and sometimes
ride my bike!

Also, I ran over a squirrel on my bike once, at slow speed, both wheels
(unavoidable). He kind of made a pitiful little squeak but then ran off
the road without visible sign of damage.

 

[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] aka Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On Nov 9, 12:36 pm, "smn" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on the
>> one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry guns just
>> to even it up for you.
>
> I don't have much sympathy for the "never harm a living thing" crowd.
> Squirrels and chipmunks have invaded our house over the years.
> They've chewed through wood to get access. They're known to chew
> through electrical wires and burn houses down. I shoot them or trap
> them.

Building houses out of wood is silly, when reinforced concrete is
available. (I do not work for the Portland Cement Association, but maybe
I should.)

If one is nice to the squirrels, they will trust you enough to take food
directly from your hand.

> Regarding the vegetables: My wife stopped vegetable gardening because
> of losses to animals - deer and groundhogs, mostly. They're
> tremendously overpopulated here. Last month, a deer died about 30
> feet into the woods behind our property line, probably from an
> overpopulation-aided disease. Horrible stench, until the village
> buried it, and probably a very unpleasant death for the deer.
>
> ISTM the options are a) keep the population down by killing the pretty
> animals, or b) introduce predators to kill the pretty animals. Both
> involve the pretty animals dying.
>
> And when you think about it, all the animals we normally think of as
> "pretty" are the prey animals. I believe that when God created the
> earth, he used "pretty" to signal "tasty." That's just the way it is.

This "kitty cat" is NOT pretty? Not a prey animal, is it?
<http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Snow_leopard_sleeping_-_Buffalo_Zoo.jpg/800px-Snow_leopard_sleeping_-_Buffalo_Zoo.jpg>

> If you ever get to design your own universe, you can do it
> differently.

Bicycles will spend more time going downhill than uphill and downwind
than upwind.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Tradition is the worst rational for action.

 

[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] aka Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On Nov 9, 12:36 pm, "smn" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on the
>> one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry guns just
>> to even it up for you.
>
> I don't have much sympathy for the "never harm a living thing" crowd.
> Squirrels and chipmunks have invaded our house over the years.
> They've chewed through wood to get access. They're known to chew
> through electrical wires and burn houses down. I shoot them or trap
> them.

Building houses out of wood is silly, when reinforced concrete is
available. (I do not work for the Portland Cement Association, but maybe
I should.)

If one is nice to the squirrels, they will trust you enough to take food
directly from your hand.

> Regarding the vegetables: My wife stopped vegetable gardening because
> of losses to animals - deer and groundhogs, mostly. They're
> tremendously overpopulated here. Last month, a deer died about 30
> feet into the woods behind our property line, probably from an
> overpopulation-aided disease. Horrible stench, until the village
> buried it, and probably a very unpleasant death for the deer.
>
> ISTM the options are a) keep the population down by killing the pretty
> animals, or b) introduce predators to kill the pretty animals. Both
> involve the pretty animals dying.
>
> And when you think about it, all the animals we normally think of as
> "pretty" are the prey animals. I believe that when God created the
> earth, he used "pretty" to signal "tasty." That's just the way it is.

This "kitty cat" is NOT pretty? Not a prey animal, is it?
<http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Snow_leopard_sleeping_-_Buffalo_Zoo.jpg/800px-Snow_leopard_sleeping_-_Buffalo_Zoo.jpg>

> If you ever get to design your own universe, you can do it
> differently.

Bicycles will spend more time going downhill than uphill and downwind
than upwind.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Tradition is the worst rational for action.

 

[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] aka Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On Nov 9, 12:36 pm, "smn" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
>> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on the
>> one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry guns just
>> to even it up for you.
>
> I don't have much sympathy for the "never harm a living thing" crowd.
> Squirrels and chipmunks have invaded our house over the years.
> They've chewed through wood to get access. They're known to chew
> through electrical wires and burn houses down. I shoot them or trap
> them.

Building houses out of wood is silly, when reinforced concrete is
available. (I do not work for the Portland Cement Association, but maybe
I should.)

If one is nice to the squirrels, they will trust you enough to take food
directly from your hand.

> Regarding the vegetables: My wife stopped vegetable gardening because
> of losses to animals - deer and groundhogs, mostly. They're
> tremendously overpopulated here. Last month, a deer died about 30
> feet into the woods behind our property line, probably from an
> overpopulation-aided disease. Horrible stench, until the village
> buried it, and probably a very unpleasant death for the deer.
>
> ISTM the options are a) keep the population down by killing the pretty
> animals, or b) introduce predators to kill the pretty animals. Both
> involve the pretty animals dying.
>
> And when you think about it, all the animals we normally think of as
> "pretty" are the prey animals. I believe that when God created the
> earth, he used "pretty" to signal "tasty." That's just the way it is.

This "kitty cat" is NOT pretty? Not a prey animal, is it?
<http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Snow_leopard_sleeping_-_Buffalo_Zoo.jpg/800px-Snow_leopard_sleeping_-_Buffalo_Zoo.jpg>

> If you ever get to design your own universe, you can do it
> differently.

Bicycles will spend more time going downhill than uphill and downwind
than upwind.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Tradition is the worst rational for action.

 

[Pat]

>
> We'll always loose some crops to critters; coons, birds, bugs. The
> squirrels eat the immature tomatoes and cherries; they really can wipe out
> a lot of fruits and vegetables. They don't seem to be too traumatized by
> spending some time in the trap, and only one had a minor injury from
> trying to get out.


I once caught a baby possum in my trap. I felt really bad about that. He
looked stressed out. However, I harbor no such tender feelings toward
squirrels. None, whatsoever.

Pat in TX

 

[Pat]

>
> We'll always loose some crops to critters; coons, birds, bugs. The
> squirrels eat the immature tomatoes and cherries; they really can wipe out
> a lot of fruits and vegetables. They don't seem to be too traumatized by
> spending some time in the trap, and only one had a minor injury from
> trying to get out.


I once caught a baby possum in my trap. I felt really bad about that. He
looked stressed out. However, I harbor no such tender feelings toward
squirrels. None, whatsoever.

Pat in TX

 

[Pat]

>
> We'll always loose some crops to critters; coons, birds, bugs. The
> squirrels eat the immature tomatoes and cherries; they really can wipe out
> a lot of fruits and vegetables. They don't seem to be too traumatized by
> spending some time in the trap, and only one had a minor injury from
> trying to get out.


I once caught a baby possum in my trap. I felt really bad about that. He
looked stressed out. However, I harbor no such tender feelings toward
squirrels. None, whatsoever.

Pat in TX

 

[Roger Zoul]

"smn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Pat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>>
>>>> I started trapping the little bastards this year because in previous
>>>> years they've eaten most of my garden fruits and vegetables. As clever
>>>> as they can be they're pretty easy to catch. Never had one die before
>>>> I released him, although one looked like he'd broken his nose trying to
>>>> ram his way out... he was in there for about a day and a half... I
>>>> didn't feel too sorry for him.
>>>
>>> The kits are easy enough to trap if you get 'em in the early spring. I
>>> have to poison the older ones. I take the kits over to a nearby golf
>>> course and turn them loose. Turf managers hate squirrels because they
>>> "plant" trees on the greens....
>>>
>>> Pat in TX
>>
>> You'd better watch it then, Pat. The turf managers might set a trap for
>> you!
>>
> You could put a wire cover over your veggies and stop killing animals.
> besides birds, rabbits and rats do the same thing. you are picking on the
> one nice spirit that is easy to kill. typical Deers should carry guns
> just to even it up for you.

They got into my attic twice and that cost $800. Then, they got into the
sprinkler box and chewed that up, costing another $200. Two traps cost $50.
End of story.
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