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  1. Guy said:

    This is a buzz word. It does not mean much.
    We need to look a lot deeper and correlate
    the data from many sources. Finding real
    answers is difficult. Is it a cold exact report
    , a sales brochure, or some new
    "religion". That is one reason I am very
    skeptical of books that are to make money.

    The advantage of living long is you see the ideas
    rotate and rotate.

    As far as the 2PD diet, It much more correct than some
    of the touted things. It is only a general indicator but it
    comes close to fitting what I see in the real world.
    Guess it is not suitable to make a bundle.

    You guess right. God's Love is free.

    Quoted message said:

    When you read very technical reports it requires some
    background to read them correctly. The more I read,
    the more ignorant I become.
    Guy

    At least you admit it.

  2. MU said:

    You guess right. God's Love is free.

    Except for the whole burning in hell part.

  3. Kevin Hill said:


    MU said:

    You guess right. God's Love is free.

    Except for the whole burning in hell part.

    That happens when you reject Christ, Who is the embodiment of His love.

    Some would say that what you describe would be the price of satan's
    love.

    Hope the above information enlightens you.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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  4. Kevin Hill said:
    MU said:

    You guess right. God's Love is free.

    Except for the whole burning in hell part.

    Naw, that's free too.

  5. Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

    That happens when you reject Christ, Who is the embodiment of His love.

    Some would say that what you describe would be the price of satan's
    love.

    When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    forever? Good parenting skills. That's true love. We actually call
    that stimulus-response training and it has nothing to do with love.

    Quoted message said:

    Hope the above information enlightens you.

    Information rarely enlightens. Sincere example does. So
    i am very safe from being enlightened by you.

    Quoted message said:


    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    What would a humble person care about your vain efforts
    for their glory?

  6. MU said:


    Kevin Hill said:
    MU said:

    You guess right. God's Love is free.

    Except for the whole burning in hell part.

    Naw, that's free too.

    It is.

    May this enlighten those who need enlightening.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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  7. Kevin Hill said:


    Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

    That happens when you reject Christ, Who is the embodiment of His love.

    Some would say that what you describe would be the price of satan's
    love.

    When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    forever?

    No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    Christ.

    Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    watch them drown.

    Quoted message said:

    Good parenting skills. That's true love. We actually call
    that stimulus-response training and it has nothing to do with love.

    Would suggest you make up your mind. It seems that in rejecting the
    love that is Christ, you now are unable to understand love.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hope the above information enlightens you.

    Information rarely enlightens. Sincere example does. So
    i am very safe from being enlightened by you.

    Your choice. God did give you His gift of free will.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    What would a humble person care about your vain efforts
    for their glory?

    Vanity exclusively resides in those who worship themselves.

    Still hope the above information enlightens you.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048

    What is all this about?
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    Is this spam?
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  8. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1103732014.eaf09232d5ffad0678e2d0de6a343a76@teranews...

    Quoted message said:
    Kevin Hill said:


    Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

    That happens when you reject Christ, Who is the embodiment of His


    love.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Some would say that what you describe would be the price of satan's
    love.

    When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    forever?

    No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    Christ.

    Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    watch them drown.

    Even if you could, by merely raising a finger, save their lives? That's
    pretty cold. Is your god really that vain ("Love me, or burn in hell!"😉?
    Sounds like your god has some anger management and rejection issues...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Good parenting skills. That's true love. We actually call
    that stimulus-response training and it has nothing to do with love.

    Would suggest you make up your mind. It seems that in rejecting the
    love that is Christ, you now are unable to understand love.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hope the above information enlightens you.

    Information rarely enlightens. Sincere example does. So
    i am very safe from being enlightened by you.

    Your choice. God did give you His gift of free will.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    What would a humble person care about your vain efforts
    for their glory?

    Vanity exclusively resides in those who worship themselves.

    Still hope the above information enlightens you.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048

    What is all this about?
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A

    Is this spam?
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?D13B21FF9

  9. Kevin Hill said:
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Quoted message said:

    When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    forever?

    No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    Christ.

    Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    A convenient definition don't you think? Doesn't it bother you
    how easily you have accepted mass murder?

    Quoted message said:

    If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    watch them drown.

    That certainly squares with the teachings of christ. You should feel
    proud.

    Quoted message said:

    Would suggest you make up your mind. It seems that in rejecting the
    love that is Christ, you now are unable to understand love.

    Quoted message said:

    Your choice. God did give you His gift of free will.

    If you don't use free will to make a particular conclusion
    then you will burn forever in hell? Rationally, does
    that sound like free will to you?

  10. Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Quoted message said:

    When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    forever?

    No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    Christ.

    Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    A convenient definition don't you think? Doesn't it bother you
    how easily you have accepted mass murder?

    Quoted message said:

    If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    watch them drown.

    That certainly squares with the teachings of christ. You should feel
    proud.

    Quoted message said:

    Would suggest you make up your mind. It seems that in rejecting the
    love that is Christ, you now are unable to understand love.

    Quoted message said:

    Your choice. God did give you His gift of free will.

    If you don't use free will to make a particular conclusion
    then you will burn forever in hell? Rationally, does
    that sound like free will to you?

  11. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fihyd.38290> >

    Quoted message said:

    Even if you could, by merely raising a finger, save their lives? That's
    pretty cold. Is your god really that vain ("Love me, or burn in hell!"😉?
    Sounds like your god has some anger management and rejection issues...

    Excellent point. 🙂

    Gary 1
    Chung 0

  12. Kevin Hill said:


    Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Quoted message said:

    When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    forever?

    No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    Christ.

    Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    A convenient definition don't you think? Doesn't it bother you
    how easily you have accepted mass murder?

    It seems you believe that the dead could be murdered.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    watch them drown.

    That certainly squares with the teachings of christ. You should feel
    proud.

    Such are the teachings of God. Many drowned during the great flood in
    Noah's time after rejecting Noah's efforts to save them.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Would suggest you make up your mind. It seems that in rejecting the
    love that is Christ, you now are unable to understand love.

    Quoted message said:

    Your choice. God did give you His gift of free will.

    If you don't use free will to make a particular conclusion
    then you will burn forever in hell? Rationally, does
    that sound like free will to you?

    Yes.

    It seems you are unable to distinguish between free will and
    consequence.

    Hope what I have written enlightens you and others.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

    **
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    Is this spam?
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  13. GaryG said:


    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1103732014.eaf09232d5ffad0678e2d0de6a343a76@teranews...

    Quoted message said:
    Kevin Hill said:


    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    > That happens when you reject Christ, Who is the embodiment of His


    love.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > Some would say that what you describe would be the price of satan's
    > love.

    When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    forever?

    No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    Christ.

    Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    watch them drown.

    Even if you could, by merely raising a finger, save their lives?

    If I could then I would be God and I would do what He has done... give
    up my life to save yours:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A

    Hope what I have written enlightens you and others.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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  14. Tom said:


    "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fihyd.38290> >

    Quoted message said:

    Even if you could, by merely raising a finger, save their lives? That's
    pretty cold. Is your god really that vain ("Love me, or burn in hell!"😉?
    Sounds like your god has some anger management and rejection issues...

    Excellent point. 🙂

    Gary 1
    Chung 0

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A

    Hope the above information enlightens you.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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  15. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1103736810.f4a62a72b0838f2e2c1cd93ac2fd97f2@teranews...

    Quoted message said:
    Kevin Hill said:


    Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

    >When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    >forever?

    No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    Christ.

    Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    A convenient definition don't you think? Doesn't it bother you
    how easily you have accepted mass murder?

    It seems you believe that the dead could be murdered.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    watch them drown.

    That certainly squares with the teachings of christ. You should feel
    proud.

    Such are the teachings of God. Many drowned during the great flood in
    Noah's time after rejecting Noah's efforts to save them.

    Perhaps Noah was to busy and tired by the labors of having to build
    such a huge boat. You would think that he would have been rewarded for being
    such a good man, rather than having these extra duties imposed on him on top
    of a life of subsistance living, as was common in those days. A snap of
    God's fingers would have gone a long ways to help Noah with his efforts.
    Seems like if you are not a good person, you get punished. I'm ok with that.
    If you are a good person, then you are singled out and your life is made
    into hell. Thanks for nothing.
    By the way. What did they feed the lions?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Would suggest you make up your mind. It seems that in rejecting the
    love that is Christ, you now are unable to understand love.

    Quoted message said:

    Your choice. God did give you His gift of free will.

    If you don't use free will to make a particular conclusion
    then you will burn forever in hell? Rationally, does
    that sound like free will to you?

    Yes.

    It seems you are unable to distinguish between free will and
    consequence.

    Hope what I have written enlightens you and others.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

    **
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  16. Tom said:


    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1103736810.f4a62a72b0838f2e2c1cd93ac2fd97f2@teranews...

    Quoted message said:
    Kevin Hill said:


    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    >>When your child rejects you will you poor gas on them and burn them,
    >>forever?
    >
    > No. Those who are children to the ways of the world have not rejected
    > Christ.
    >
    > Your rejection of Christ is proof of your being an adult.

    A convenient definition don't you think? Doesn't it bother you
    how easily you have accepted mass murder?

    It seems you believe that the dead could be murdered.

    Quoted message said:

    > If a drowning adult rejects my efforts to help them, then yes, I will
    > watch them drown.

    That certainly squares with the teachings of christ. You should feel
    proud.

    Such are the teachings of God. Many drowned during the great flood in
    Noah's time after rejecting Noah's efforts to save them.

    Perhaps Noah was to busy and tired by the labors of having to build
    such a huge boat.

    That does not explain the unwise choice of those who rejected Noah's
    efforts to save them.

    Hope what I have written enlightens you and others.

    Such is the work being done here for Christ's glory
    (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

    **
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    Is this spam?
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  17. GaryG said:

    Is your god really that vain ("Love me, or burn in hell!"😉?
    Sounds like your god has some anger management and rejection issues...

    Sounds like you want to humanize God. Won't work.

  18. "MU" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    GaryG said:

    Is your god really that vain ("Love me, or burn in hell!"😉?
    Sounds like your god has some anger management and rejection issues...

    Sounds like you want to humanize God. Won't work.

    LOL - as if "God the Father" and his "son" Jesus Christ are not humanized
    points of view!

    GG

  19. Dr. Chung

    My only problem with you is that it seems you want to defend God without
    really listening (or reading in this case) what the people say. In my
    opinion that is not humble. It appears that you are offended too easily.

    Personally I believe that if a religeon/faith/God is worth believing in,
    then it is not necessary to defend Him/it. I mean, if you know you are a
    doctor, and you have no poor self-esteem, would you expect people to defend
    your title (as a doctor) to everyone thinking you are NOT a doctor? (Did
    that make sense?)

    So, just relax and if people have questions about God/religeon/faith answer
    them. If not, do what you are required to do- Love them.

    My opinion.

    Not-Dr. J S

  20. "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Chung

    My only problem with you is that it seems you want to defend God without
    really listening (or reading in this case) what the people say. In my
    opinion that is not humble. It appears that you are offended too easily.

    Personally I believe that if a religeon/faith/God is worth believing in,
    then it is not necessary to defend Him/it. I mean, if you know you are a
    doctor, and you have no poor self-esteem, would you expect people to


    defend

    Quoted message said:

    your title (as a doctor) to everyone thinking you are NOT a doctor? (Did
    that make sense?)

    So, just relax and if people have questions about God/religeon/faith


    answer

    Quoted message said:

    them. If not, do what you are required to do- Love them.

    Unfortunately, Chung will never "relax"...he truly believes that he has been
    granted special powers of "truth discernment". He also seems to believe
    that he is on a mission from God, and that he fulfills that mission by
    posting, and cross-posting, his religious ramblings on Usenet. It seems the
    more upset he gets, the more groups he adds to his cross-posts

    A Google groups search for Andrew Chung will quickly reveal that he is a
    persistent whacko of long standing, who is (as you have noted) easily
    offended, but who covers it up with passive-agressive language and
    cross-posting. You'll also note that he has a burning need to always get in
    the last word.

    Quoted message said:


    My opinion.

    Not-Dr. J S

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