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  1. Peter Cole said:
    Tom Sherman said:

    The system does not exist to serve the little guy - Alan Greenspan
    even admitted as much.

    "WASHINGTON — In pointed exchanges with Congressional lawmakers Friday,
    three prominent financial executives defended the multimillion-dollar
    pay packages they received even as their companies were brought to their
    knees by the spreading credit crisis."

    "The questioning mainly fell along party lines, with Republicans
    ****apologizing for bringing distinguished corporate officials****
    before the panel, and Democrats questioning everything from the income
    gap in America to the particular bonuses, stock sales and compensation
    the executives were awarded."

    "Mr. Mozilo’s (Countrywide, the nation’s largest mortgage lender
    )* pay drew the most scrutiny from the House committee. He has taken
    home more than $410 million since becoming chief executive in 1999"

    "Mr. O’Neal retained more than $161 million after he was ousted in
    October on top of the $70 million he took home during his four-year
    tenure. Merrill Lynch, meanwhile, has announced write-offs totaling more
    than $10.3 billion, and its stock price has fallen sharply."

    "Mr. Prince collected $110 million while presiding over the evaporation
    of roughly $64 billion in market value. He left Citigroup in November
    with an exit package worth $68 million"

    From August 1997:
    "*Last year, Countrywide had revenue of $11.4 billion and pretax income
    of $4.3 billion. Mortgage banking contributed mightily in 2006,
    generating $2.06 billion before taxes. In the last 12 months,
    Countrywide financed almost $500 billion in loans, or around $41 billion
    a month. It financed 177,000 to 240,000 loans a month during the last 12
    months."

    "As of June 30, almost one in four subprime loans that Countrywide
    services was delinquent, up from 15 percent in the same period last
    year, according to company filings. Almost 10 percent were delinquent by
    90 days or more,"

    "When borrowers tried to reduce their mortgage debt, Countrywide cashed
    in: prepayment penalties generated significant revenue for the company —
    $268 million last year, up from $212 million in 2005. When borrowers had
    difficulty making payments, Countrywide cashed in again: late charges
    produced even more in 2006 — some $285 million."

    This is laissez-faire, deregulated capitalism at work. Banking is just
    one sector where the crooks are pilfering the country, energy markets
    are even worse (Exxon made $40B profit, still won't cough it up for the
    Valdez). When are people going to wake up and throw these bums
    (conservatives) out for good?

    Maybe when the mass media stops glorifying corporate parasites as some
    sort of overachieving heroes? Oh wait, guess who owns the mass media?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

  2. Peter Cole said:
    Tom Sherman said:

    The Federal Reserve and other similar banks were created to take
    control of the economy from the elected representatives of the people
    (or other political leadership) and put in the hands of a few hundred
    fantastically wealthy people.

    Actually, The Federal Reserve* was created to solve the problem of bank
    runs ("panics"😉. Hence, Friedman's expressed bewilderment over why they
    didn't act to do so in the Great Depression.


    That may be the official explanation.

    Some of the elites made out very well during the Great Depression,
    buying assets for pennies on the dollar.

    This pattern has been repeated with IMF/World Bank engineered financial
    crises, when the assets in a country are devalued, bought by foreign
    investors, and THEN the imposed "austerity" measures that led to the
    economic depression are lifted.

    Quoted message said:


    *"Progressive Democrats instead favored a reserve system owned and
    operated by the government and out of control of the "money trust",
    ending Wall Street's control of American currency supply. Conservative
    Democrats fought for a privately owned, yet decentralized, reserve
    system, which would still be free of Wall Street's control. The Federal
    Reserve Act passed Congress in late 1913 on a mostly partisan basis,
    with most Democrats in support and most Republicans against it."

    http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/aier_on_conspiracy_04.html

    There is no contradiction between what is reported there and what the
    real agenda of those lobbying Congress behind the scenes was.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

  3. On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.  It inspired me
    to try a couple, and I was hooked.  New favorite fireside beverage.
    So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
    here.  Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot.  I enjoyed it on tap over the
    weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME.  Great place, if you're
    even in the area go there.  Seriously.  Anyway, they had 2 barley
    wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot.  I've had
    the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new.  I'm
    so glad I did.  Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
    Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
    it and wonders.  It's got a firm recommendation from my camp.  Oh, and
    at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.

    Does barley wine qualify as beer?

    I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

    Its in the beer section around here.

  4. On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:18:47 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
    trolled yet again:

    Quoted message said:

    Even you must be bored with your lame trolling by now.

    Perhaps you can make up another personality that's more interesting.

  5. On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:13:14 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "still just me" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:18:47 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
    trolled yet again:

    ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS

    Very clear - it explains why you just top posted.

  6. Quoted message said:

    Nice try, but even your trolling has become lame.

    =x= "Has become?" When has it ever not been?
    <_Jym_>

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  7. Quoted message said:

    The envy of one's inferiors is ever a wonder to behold!

    =x= How would you know? Nobody envies you, and you have
    no inferiors.
    HTH, HAND,
    <_Jym_>

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