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Re: Making bacon safe to eat without overcooking

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  1. The pork industry has worked had and has almost eliminated the risks for
    trichinosis in the United States. It is recommended that pork be cooked to
    180 degrees in my smoker book.
    Jennifer S.

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    At the same time, I absolutely positively hate crispy cooked bacon, it
    does not taste like food and cannot be healthy due to high cooking
    temps. Plus, it wastes all that delicious fat.

    Is there some way of cooking bacon that kills possible parasites, and
    yet leaves bacon tasting like raw bacon or close?

    What about freezing it in the freezer for a week or so. That,
    supposedly, kills parasites. What about bacteria? Are regular bacteria
    present at meat packing plants killed by the process of "curing"?

    I am looking for some ideas...

    i

  2. Jennifer S. said:

    The pork industry has worked had and has almost eliminated the risks for
    trichinosis in the United States. It is recommended that pork be cookedto
    180 degrees in my smoker book.

    Trichina are dead at 145°F. So's pretty much everything else. That
    freezing thing can work, but it's a bit sketchy. Commercial pork has a
    very good record in recent years. Trichinae are still out there, but
    mostly in wild critters and mama-papa farm raised stock.

    If all you want to do is kill stuff without actually cooking the
    bacon, drop separated strips into boiling water for about 2 minutes.
    Drain. Let cool to suit you. Eat.

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    At the same time, I absolutely positively hate crispy cooked bacon, it
    does not taste like food and cannot be healthy due to high cooking
    temps. Plus, it wastes all that delicious fat.

    Is there some way of cooking bacon that kills possible parasites, and
    yet leaves bacon tasting like raw bacon or close?

    What about freezing it in the freezer for a week or so. That,
    supposedly, kills parasites. What about bacteria? Are regular bacteria
    present at meat packing plants killed by the process of "curing"?

    I am looking for some ideas...

    i

  3. Ignoramus7068 said:
    In article said:
    Jennifer S. said:

    The pork industry has worked had and has almost eliminated the risks for
    trichinosis in the United States. It is recommended that pork be cooked to
    180 degrees in my smoker book.

    Trichina are dead at 145°F. So's pretty much everything else. That
    freezing thing can work, but it's a bit sketchy. Commercial pork has a
    very good record in recent years. Trichinae are still out there, but
    mostly in wild critters and mama-papa farm raised stock.

    If all you want to do is kill stuff without actually cooking the
    bacon, drop separated strips into boiling water for about 2 minutes.
    Drain. Let cool to suit you. Eat.

    Quoted message said:

    How about this idea. Boil water. Turn off the burner. Drop UNOPENED
    package of bacon into water. Wait for say 10 minutes. Take out and let
    cool.

    That, to me, preserves flavor and does not let water in, and fat out,
    and yet, kills everything that needs to be killed.

    I'd say no. Several reasons: plastic wrap may (likely isn't) be
    designed for hot handling. Will most likely shrink and deform and you
    don't know what sorts of gasses it will release into the package. You
    can't know if all the bacon has been heated to a high enough point for
    absolute safety. More fat will be rendered by this approach than if
    it's dropped naked into the water and retrieved more quickly than your
    suggestion posits.

    Dropping bacon into water won't end up with some waterlogged meat. The
    fat won't take up any water at all, and the lean will only take enough
    in that time to make it a tad more tender. You'll lost a tad of the
    smoke flavor because it's not really smoke in most commercial bacon.
    It's part of the wet-cure process used to make bacon in hours instead
    of days or weeks. Liquid smoke. You could put a few drops of liquid
    smoke into the boiling water to intensify it enough to offset the lost
    flavor.

    If you buy a dry-cure smoked bacon (typically, butcher shops will
    carry it) the water immersion won't take much flavor out.

    Pastorio

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