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  1. 005 05-18-04 18:31
    Orac <[email hidden]> posted:
    or> Wrong. I don't hate "alternative medicine." Indeed, I
    or> occasionally even recommend one or two "alt" treatments
    or> to my patients.

    Orac, I hope the alt med / diet med treatments you tell
    your patients to give up the drinking of cow's milk &
    diary products. Many ear infections & strep throats
    may not happen. Cow's milk has a heavy casein content
    which is difficult to digest and "gums" up the human
    digestive system. Source: www.notmilk.com .

    Also, I hope you tell your patients the value of taking
    supplemental digestive enzymes.

    ___-----------
    btw, Orac, do pharm drug companies manufacture supplemental
    digestive enzymes, too?

    .... End of message 19 May 04 10:53
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  2. 006 05-18-04 19:27
    [email hidden] (DRCEEPHD) posted:
    Dr> Modern medicine is based upon scientific fraud. This keeps the little
    Dr> people from questioning your lies and the arrogant, [censored] docs in
    Dr> line as well. Modern medicine is a deception, and I think a deception
    Dr> perpetratred by the master of deception... Satan ( with an a ).

    IMHO, modern medicine is "incomplete" medicine.

    Modern medicine should use diet medicine techniques first;
    modern medicine should use nutritional medicine techniques
    second; and only lastly --->
    modern medicine should use as the last resort -> pharm drug
    medicine.

    Most M.D.s reverse this order of good medical techniques.

    Of course, most people, too, fail to follow (good) diet
    medicine.

    .... End of message 19 May 04 11:04
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  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: "lies" vs "errors"
    From: [email hidden] (George Lagergren)
    Date: 5/19/04 12:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    IMHO, modern medicine is "incomplete" medicine.

    It is only one theory of medicine. I have no problem with that except that
    they have now created a monopoly and will not allow any competition to threaten
    their strangle hold on American medicine.
    With fair and balanced competition the American people would figure out which
    theory was valid and which was bogus. Those with bogus credentianls would fail
    financially. The Phamas cannot allow this.

    Thomas Edison said it very well:

    The doctor of the future will nive no medicine, but will interest his patient
    in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause and prevention of
    disease.

    Thomas Edison 1847-1931.

    It would seem that we are not there yet.

    Our modern docs do have the understanding of the cause of disease and the
    prevention of disease that existed in 1850 in the US.

    DrC PhD

  4. Do you have studies, indicating in any way, you have the right to question
    this poster?

    "Coleah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:bPCqc.78127$iF6.6600942@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:


    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Modern medicine is a deception

    Specifics?

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    DRCEEPHD said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: "lies" vs "errors"
    From: [email hidden] (George Lagergren)
    Date: 5/19/04 12:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    IMHO, modern medicine is "incomplete" medicine.

    It is only one theory of medicine. I have no problem with that
    except that they have now created a monopoly and will not allow any
    competition to threaten their strangle hold on American medicine.

    Actually, you have a big problem with it, as you have told us over and
    over, since you think the theory is false.

    Quoted message said:

    With fair and balanced competition the American people would figure
    out which theory was valid and which was bogus.

    They already have. Yours is bogus.

    Quoted message said:

    Thomas Edison said it very well:

    The doctor of the future will nive no medicine, but will interest his
    patient in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause and
    prevention of disease.

    Thomas Edison 1847-1931.

    Why would anyone care what Thomas Edison said about medicine? He
    wasn't any sort of doctor or healer. He also thought you could
    insulate against gravity with some sort of alloy.

    Quoted message said:

    Our modern docs do have the understanding of the cause of disease and the
    prevention of disease that existed in 1850 in the US.

    Public health conditions are vastly better in the US than they were in
    1850. That's why life expectancy is so much higher.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  6. Oh sit on it, Grimmy!
    I don't NEED anything for the RIGHT to
    ask a question.

    DrC made a generalized statement. I
    asked for specifics to clarify his point of view.

    What the [censored] IS your problem Slimmy?
    Too many big words for you to understand?????

    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Do you have studies, indicating in any way, you have the right to question
    this poster?

    "Coleah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:bPCqc.78127$iF6.6600942@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:


    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Modern medicine is a deception

    Specifics?

  7. [email hidden] (DRCEEPHD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: "lies" vs "errors"
    From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/17/04 9:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Made complete sense to me and I only read it once.

    Thanks Gymmy.

    We do need to be kind to those who only have the intelligence of a ripe
    cucumber like Coleah.

    On second thought, maybe that is a rotten cucumber like Coleah.

    DrC PhD

    Excuse me but are you a SILICONE OR SALINE BREAST VICTIM??? OR ARE YOU
    HERE TO JUST BE A PAIN IN THE ASS AND ASSULT PEOPLE VERBALLY????? NONE
    OF THIS [censored] YOU ARE POSTING HAS A DAMN THING TO DO ABOUT BREAST
    IMPLANTS OR THE DISEASES CAUSED BY THEM.

    NO MATTER WHAT YOUR PURPOSE IS TO BE HERE THE TRASH NEEDS TO STOP.
    THIS IS TO HELP AND SUPPORT SILICONE AND SALINE BREAST IMPLANT
    SURVIVORS...AND THEIR FAMILIES....NOT PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO FOLLOW
    FROM ANOTHER SITE AND MAKE NASTY COMMENTS ABOUT ANYONE...AND THAT
    INCLUDES IMPLYING JAN IS A LIAR OR A NUTCASE OR ANY OTHER NAME YOU
    CHOOSE TO PIN ON HER OR ANY OTHERS OF THIS BOARD. SO BEAT IT AND LEAVE
    THE SISTERS ALONE. JOYCE

  8. WTF does this thread have to do with Breast implant obsession?

    If you have extra large breasts please state size and address below.

    Size ______________________Qty.________
    Firmness____________ Nipple Direction_____
    Name ____XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX_________ (doesn't matter)
    Address________________________________
    City____________________________________
    Husband's working hours___________________

    "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (DRCEEPHD) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: "lies" vs "errors"
    From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/17/04 9:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Made complete sense to me and I only read it once.

    Thanks Gymmy.

    We do need to be kind to those who only have the intelligence of a ripe
    cucumber like Coleah.

    On second thought, maybe that is a rotten cucumber like Coleah.

    DrC PhD

    Excuse me but are you a SILICONE OR SALINE BREAST VICTIM??? OR ARE YOU
    HERE TO JUST BE A PAIN IN THE ASS AND ASSULT PEOPLE VERBALLY????? NONE
    OF THIS [censored] YOU ARE POSTING HAS A DAMN THING TO DO ABOUT BREAST
    IMPLANTS OR THE DISEASES CAUSED BY THEM.

    NO MATTER WHAT YOUR PURPOSE IS TO BE HERE THE TRASH NEEDS TO STOP.
    THIS IS TO HELP AND SUPPORT SILICONE AND SALINE BREAST IMPLANT
    SURVIVORS...AND THEIR FAMILIES....NOT PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO FOLLOW
    FROM ANOTHER SITE AND MAKE NASTY COMMENTS ABOUT ANYONE...AND THAT
    INCLUDES IMPLYING JAN IS A LIAR OR A NUTCASE OR ANY OTHER NAME YOU
    CHOOSE TO PIN ON HER OR ANY OTHERS OF THIS BOARD. SO BEAT IT AND LEAVE
    THE SISTERS ALONE. JOYCE

  9. "Coleah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:idWqc.26543$gr.2401756@attbi_s52...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh sit on it, Grimmy!
    I don't NEED anything for the RIGHT to
    ask a question.

    Specifics?

    Quoted message said:


    DrC made a generalized statement. I
    asked for specifics to clarify his point of view.

    Why?

    Quoted message said:


    What the [censored] IS your problem Slimmy?
    Too many big words for you to understand?????


    Examples?

    Quoted message said:

    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Do you have studies, indicating in any way, you have the right to


    question

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    this poster?

    "Coleah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:bPCqc.78127$iF6.6600942@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:


    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Modern medicine is a deception

    Specifics?

  10. Quoted message said:

    We experienced this in Canada back 5 years ago. They fought a legal battle
    with the doc until his funds ran out after ten years and he lost. No doc
    licence anymore and he is not a Naturopathic Doctor either...rotten
    [censored]. This guy helped many people with a combination of techniques.

    Does this former ND have a name? Is there any independent verification of your
    anecdote or is this like Rb's brother having an MI because he did forsake the
    healing power of Chelation?

    Quoted message said:

    "DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden].

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