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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. · 2003-12-05T11:28:01+00:00

Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..." In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite." Overbite and overjet? YES. If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite? This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same phonemes and same symbols etc. Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may be way over your head. > Joel Now that's news to me! I never head a Class III called an underbite. Joel Class III malocclusion, can and often does include an anterior crossbite, most of my patients will refer to this as an underbite. -- Joel M. Eichen, . Philadelphia PA DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS: ********* Dental health-related material is provided for information purposes only and does not necessarily represent endorsement by or an official position of the SciMedDentistry gang or any other official agency either actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso. Advice on the treatment or care of an individual patient should be obtained through consultation with a dentist who has examined that patient or is familiar with that patient's dental history. STANDARD DISCLAIMER

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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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5 December 2003, 11:28 UTC #1

Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..."
In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite."
Overbite and overjet? YES.
If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite?
This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both
parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same
phonemes and same symbols etc.
Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may
be way over your head. <<sorry>>
Joel
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. said:
Now that's news to me!
I never head a Class III called an underbite.
Joel
carabelli said:
Class III malocclusion, can and often does include an anterior crossbite,
most of my patients will refer to this as an underbite.
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
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carabelli
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5 December 2003, 13:05 UTC #2

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..."
In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite."
Overbite and overjet? YES.
If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite?
This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both
parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same
phonemes and same symbols etc.
Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may
be way over your head. <<sorry>>
Joel
It is not really a dental term but one that is understood by the
non-professional (with the exception listed above)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=underbite
carabelli

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Rich Shewmaker
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5 December 2003, 13:21 UTC #3

"carabelli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..."
In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite."
Overbite and overjet? YES.
If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite?
This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both
parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same
phonemes and same symbols etc.
Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may
be way over your head. <<sorry>>
Joel
It is not really a dental term but one that is understood by the
non-professional (with the exception listed above)
It is "underbite" if you are at the dog show; at the dentist's office, it's
"prognathic." Do I win a prize?
;o) Rich

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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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5 December 2003, 13:36 UTC #4

Good one!
TRUE!
I am a stickler for using the right word!
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:05:52 GMT, "carabelli" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..."
In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite."
Overbite and overjet? YES.
If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite?
This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both
parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same
phonemes and same symbols etc.
Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may
be way over your head. <<sorry>>
Joel
It is not really a dental term but one that is understood by the
non-professional (with the exception listed above)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=underbite
carabelli
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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5 December 2003, 13:37 UTC #5

Wow!
Live and learn.
You are precisely correct.
****
2 entries found for underbite.
un·der·bite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ndr-bt)
n.
Malocclusion in which the lower teeth protrude beyond the upper teeth.
[Buy it]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
****
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:05:52 GMT, "carabelli" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..."
In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite."
Overbite and overjet? YES.
If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite?
This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both
parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same
phonemes and same symbols etc.
Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may
be way over your head. <<sorry>>
Joel
It is not really a dental term but one that is understood by the
non-professional (with the exception listed above)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=underbite
carabelli
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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5 December 2003, 13:38 UTC #6

Yup, and in similar fashion to your reply, Jan Drew would be
retro-cephalic.
Rich Shewmaker said:

"carabelli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..."
In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite."
Overbite and overjet? YES.
If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite?
This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both
parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same
phonemes and same symbols etc.
Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may
be way over your head. <<sorry>>
Joel
It is not really a dental term but one that is understood by the
non-professional (with the exception listed above)
It is "underbite" if you are at the dog show; at the dentist's office, it's
"prognathic." Do I win a prize?
;o) Rich
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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5 December 2003, 13:41 UTC #7

Still, if it sticks out, how is that "under?"
Forward-bite ....... or something!
This must be why I refer out all orthodontic cases ,,,, I do not
understand the issues!
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. said:
Wow!
Live and learn.
You are precisely correct.
****
2 entries found for underbite.
un·der·bite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ndr-bt)
n.
Malocclusion in which the lower teeth protrude beyond the upper teeth.
[Buy it]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
****
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:05:52 GMT, "carabelli" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Next morning ... still about the word "underbite ..."
In fact standard textbooks, I believe, never use the word "underbite."
Overbite and overjet? YES.
If a guy's lower jaw sticks out, how is that an UNDERbite?
This is why language is standardized. We can communicate only if both
parties are speaking the same language. This means using the same
phonemes and same symbols etc.
Jan Drew please ask at the next gas station for directions, this may
be way over your head. <<sorry>>
Joel
It is not really a dental term but one that is understood by the
non-professional (with the exception listed above)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=underbite
carabelli
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
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David Ananas
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6 December 2003, 13:35 UTC #8

DOC.INTNET.CONT.ED.FEE.PERNL/EST.3DAYS: $798.00 (ka-Ching!) 😉
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Wow!
Live and learn.
You are precisely correct.
****
2 entries found for underbite.
un·der·bite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ndr-bt)
n.
Malocclusion in which the lower teeth protrude beyond the upper teeth.
[Buy it]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
****

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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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6 December 2003, 15:40 UTC #9

Thanks David,
We had someone using your name a few years back ....... let me see if
I can find it ........
***
Joel
***
On 6 Dec 2003 05:35:19 -0800, [email hidden] (David Ananas)
Quoted message said:
DOC.INTNET.CONT.ED.FEE.PERNL/EST.3DAYS: $798.00 (ka-Ching!) 😉
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Wow!
Live and learn.
You are precisely correct.
****
2 entries found for underbite.
un·der·bite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ndr-bt)
n.
Malocclusion in which the lower teeth protrude beyond the upper teeth.
[Buy it]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
****
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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6 December 2003, 15:43 UTC #10

Yeah here it is ,,,,, here is some fool using your name .......... six
year ago too!
*****
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Search Result 1
From: Joel M. Eichen ([email hidden])
Subject: Re: Anti-amalgamists!
View: Complete Thread (111 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry, alt.health.dental-amalgam
Date: 1998/08/18
PCSOL recommends outlawing ethylene glycol.
Ethylene glycol is "antifreeze." Of course, like the amalgam
issue, there's no need at all for driving in the winter. Once
the snow flies, just put "old Betsy" in the garage and walk
or take out your skates. Driving in the winter should be
completely banned.
"Wiley and associates reported inhalation studies on rats and
mice exposed eight hours a day for 16 weeks to concentrations
ranging from 0.35 to 3.49 mg/liter. Complaints among women
workers exposed to a solvent mixture containing 40% ethylene
glycol . . . . "
---Casarett and Doull's Toxicology.
No mention was made about the 12 sheep with amalgam
restorations who also used this ethylene glycol stuff for
mouthwash, but I just sense that this might have been part of
the problem.
In short, how about letting the dentists decide whether or
not they need to use amalgam, or am I comparing 'ananas and
cows again?
Cheers,
Joel
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
PS- My brother-in-law is in favor of outlawing anti-freeze
but only in Scandanavian countries. He lives in Florida. He
loves to compare 'ananas and cows, too.
******
Quoted message said:
On 6 Dec 2003 05:35:19 -0800, [email hidden] (David Ananas) wrote:
Quoted message said:
DOC.INTNET.CONT.ED.FEE.PERNL/EST.3DAYS: $798.00 (ka-Ching!) 😉
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Wow!
Live and learn.
You are precisely correct.
****
2 entries found for underbite.
un·der·bite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ndr-bt)
n.
Malocclusion in which the lower teeth protrude beyond the upper teeth.
[Buy it]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
****
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
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6 December 2003, 15:45 UTC #11

Wow!
Lots of "ananas" posts!
***
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From: Hans Lennros ([email hidden])
Subject: Re: Bacterias expand?
View: Complete Thread (33 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Date: 1998/10/04
Hi Joel
So someone else is writing parts of your posts?
Joke again, I guess.
Bye for now,
Hans
PS: The post went as following:
Hans Lennros said:
Hi Joel
I said:
Quoted message said:
You're mixing appels with peers. Above has nothing
to do with what we were talking about. You wrote:

I know. This is humor. By the way, what are peers?

Sometimes it is hard to know when you are joking or not.
But now I know when you are out of arguments a joke
can be expected.

No. I don't tire of rehashing the same old stuff, but I hear that most
people on this newsgroup gets tired of hearing us die-hards go at it
iver and over.
Quoted message said:
Still there are some unexplained (and
for me confusing) statements from you in this thread.
Bye for now,
Hans Lennros DDS
PS: Peers should be pears. Don't you say "mixing apples
with pears" in English ?

Oh, yeh. That is so.
Some guys say mixing cows and 'ananas, but not over here.
Cheers,
Joel
---------------
On 6 Dec 2003 05:35:19 -0800, [email hidden] (David Ananas)
Quoted message said:
DOC.INTNET.CONT.ED.FEE.PERNL/EST.3DAYS: $798.00 (ka-Ching!) 😉
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Wow!
Live and learn.
You are precisely correct.
****
2 entries found for underbite.
un·der·bite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ndr-bt)
n.
Malocclusion in which the lower teeth protrude beyond the upper teeth.
[Buy it]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
****
--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:
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or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
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of an individual patient should
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