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Re: Chocolate

Bob M · 2005-03-08T17:05:09+00:00

I happen to like chocolate. Lately, I have been eating unsweetened chocolate (from the baking secion of the store, 2 net carbs per ounce, no sugal alcohols etc), it does not seem to be doing any obvious harm. Usually, 1 oz a day is what I eat, if I eat it at all. Since it is concentrated, chocolate wise it may be equivalent to several ounces of diluted "milk" chocolate. My question is, am I somehow "setting myself up for failure", is there some good reason not to eat that chocolate? One of the reasons why I eat it is that I do not get enough sleep (due to having a certain project) and it keeps me up. Any thoughts? -- 223/173.2/180 From what I've heard, very dark chocolate, and, in your case, unsweetened chocolate, actually has health benefits because of its antioxidants. (Even milk chocolate does, but we all know how much more "fattening" it is, so you can't eat as much at one time). I don't know anything about low-carbing but I don't see how 2 net carbs could hurt you-- I'm sure you add them into your daily count. It's really the extra sugar that's detrimental, which your chocolate doesn't have. Sara I think it's way higher than 2 net carbs. According to the Scharffen Berger website, 40g of 99% chocolate has about 14g of carbs with less than 1g of fiber. So, we're talking about 20g of carbs, which may or may not be bad depending on (1) the cravings induced by chocolate, if any, and (2) the stage of the low carb diet. -- Bob in CT

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Bob M
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8 March 2005, 17:05 UTC #1

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Ignoramus2605 said:
I happen to like chocolate. Lately, I have been eating unsweetened
chocolate (from the baking secion of the store, 2 net carbs per

ounce,
Quoted message said:
no sugal alcohols etc), it does not seem to be doing any obvious
harm. Usually, 1 oz a day is what I eat, if I eat it at all. Since it
is concentrated, chocolate wise it may be equivalent to several

ounces
Quoted message said:
of diluted "milk" chocolate. My question is, am I somehow "setting
myself up for failure", is there some good reason not to eat that
chocolate? One of the reasons why I eat it is that I do not get

enough
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sleep (due to having a certain project) and it keeps me up. Any
thoughts?
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223/173.2/180
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From what I've heard, very dark chocolate, and, in your case,

unsweetened chocolate, actually has health benefits because of its
antioxidants. (Even milk chocolate does, but we all know how much more
"fattening" it is, so you can't eat as much at one time). I don't know
anything about low-carbing but I don't see how 2 net carbs could hurt
you-- I'm sure you add them into your daily count. It's really the
extra sugar that's detrimental, which your chocolate doesn't have.
Sara
I think it's way higher than 2 net carbs. According to the Scharffen
Berger website, 40g of 99% chocolate has about 14g of carbs with less than
1g of fiber. So, we're talking about 20g of carbs, which may or may not
be bad depending on (1) the cravings induced by chocolate, if any, and (2)
the stage of the low carb diet.
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Bob in CT

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Mogget
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8 March 2005, 17:47 UTC #2

In message <[email hidden]>, Ignoramus2605
<[email hidden]> writes
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I am highly doubtful that that 99% chocolate is really 99% chocolate.
I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have ever tasted.
Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a block.
If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything approaching
pleasure, I would be astonished.
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

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greg
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8 March 2005, 17:52 UTC #3

Mogget said:
In message <[email hidden]>, Ignoramus2605
<[email hidden]> writes
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I am highly doubtful that that 99% chocolate is really 99% chocolate.
I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have ever tasted.
Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a block. If
anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything approaching pleasure,
I would be astonished.
The 85% chocolate bars are good and it doesn't take a lot to feel satisfied.

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Opinicus
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8 March 2005, 18:04 UTC #4

"Mogget" <[email hidden]> wrote
[Talking about unsweetened baker's chocolate]
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If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything
approaching pleasure, I would be astonished.
Us chocolate freaks do it all the time...
(It's what's called "an acquired taste".)
I discovered the stuff as a kid. Whenever my mother muttered
"But I'm *sure* I bought baker's chocolate..." I would put
on my very best halo of innocence. It never occurred to her
that I was pilfering squares of it. The thought of eating
unsweetened chocolate is inconceivable to a non-chocolate
freaks. Yet at one time there was a civilization that
thrived on the stuff.
Note: A little goes a LONG way.
--
Bob
Kanyak's Doghouse
http://www.kanyak.com

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Crafting Mom
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8 March 2005, 18:10 UTC #5

Opinicus said:
Note: A little goes a LONG way.
An ounce of the stuff gives me the amount of pure chocolate that I'd
need to eat over a dozen hershey bars to obtain, I am sure.

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9 March 2005, 03:38 UTC #6

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 20:04:33 +0200, "Opinicus" <[email hidden]>
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The thought of eating
unsweetened chocolate is inconceivable to a non-chocolate
freaks. Yet at one time there was a civilization that
thrived on the stuff.
Yes, and that civilization (the Aztec and, it now appears, Maya) also
thrived on the eating of hearts ripped from the chests of human
beings.

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Cubit
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9 March 2005, 12:43 UTC #7

Organ meats are supposed to have lots of vitamins.
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 20:04:33 +0200, "Opinicus" <[email hidden]>
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The thought of eating
unsweetened chocolate is inconceivable to a non-chocolate
freaks. Yet at one time there was a civilization that
thrived on the stuff.
Yes, and that civilization (the Aztec and, it now appears, Maya) also
thrived on the eating of hearts ripped from the chests of human
beings.

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rosie read n' post
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9 March 2005, 15:09 UTC #8

: I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have ever
tasted.
: Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a
block.
: If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything approaching
mixed with melted butter, whole cream, and splenda?
YUM!

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Bob M
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9 March 2005, 15:24 UTC #9

rosie read n' post said:
: I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have ever
tasted.
: Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a
block.
: If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything approaching
mixed with melted butter, whole cream, and splenda?
YUM!
The one and only time I tried to make that, it separated. There must be a
trick to it.
--
Bob in CT

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Black Metal Martha
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9 March 2005, 16:17 UTC #10

Bob M said:
rosie read n' post said:
: I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have ever
tasted.
: Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a
block.
: If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything approaching
mixed with melted butter, whole cream, and splenda?
YUM!
The one and only time I tried to make that, it separated. There must

be a
Quoted message said:
trick to it.
--
Chocolate seizes up if it's not prepared at the right temperature. I
don't have my chocolate book at work, but if you like, I can get some
more concrete info for you.
Martha

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Bob M
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9 March 2005, 16:31 UTC #11

On 9 Mar 2005 08:17:42 -0800, Black Metal Martha <[email hidden]>
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Bob M said:
rosie read n' post said:
: I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have ever
tasted.
: Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a
block.
: If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything approaching
mixed with melted butter, whole cream, and splenda?
YUM!
The one and only time I tried to make that, it separated. There must

be a
Quoted message said:
trick to it.
--
Chocolate seizes up if it's not prepared at the right temperature. I
don't have my chocolate book at work, but if you like, I can get some
more concrete info for you.
Martha
Do you prepare this? When I made it (a long while ago), I melted the
chocolate in a double boiler, then took the chocolate off the boiler and
added the ingredients, then spread the ingredients on foil and put in the
fridge. This didn't work. Perhaps I should've waited for the chocolate
to cool?
As for looking this up, that's ok -- I try to avoid eating chocolate, as I
tend to eat too much. If I want chocolate, I'll go to the mall and buy a
few pieces of good chocolate there.
--
Bob in CT

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None Given
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9 March 2005, 16:51 UTC #12

"Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Do you prepare this? When I made it (a long while ago), I melted the
chocolate in a double boiler, then took the chocolate off the boiler and
added the ingredients, then spread the ingredients on foil and put in the
fridge. This didn't work. Perhaps I should've waited for the chocolate
to cool?
As for looking this up, that's ok -- I try to avoid eating chocolate, as I
tend to eat too much. If I want chocolate, I'll go to the mall and buy a
few pieces of good chocolate there.
I need to find out about this, too. My husband likes chocolate almond bars
so I need to make some that is low carb and won't come apart all over his
hands.
--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

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Black Metal Martha
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9 March 2005, 17:17 UTC #13

Bob M said:
On 9 Mar 2005 08:17:42 -0800, Black Metal Martha

<[email hidden]>
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Bob M said:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:09:11 GMT, rosie read n' post
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
> : I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have

ever
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> tasted.
> : Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a
> block.
> : If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything

approaching
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>
>
> mixed with melted butter, whole cream, and splenda?
> YUM!
>
>
The one and only time I tried to make that, it separated. There

must
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be a
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trick to it.
--
Chocolate seizes up if it's not prepared at the right temperature.

I
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don't have my chocolate book at work, but if you like, I can get

some
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more concrete info for you.
Martha
Do you prepare this? When I made it (a long while ago), I melted the
Quoted message said:
chocolate in a double boiler, then took the chocolate off the boiler

and
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added the ingredients, then spread the ingredients on foil and put in

the
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fridge. This didn't work. Perhaps I should've waited for the

chocolate
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to cool?
As for looking this up, that's ok -- I try to avoid eating chocolate,

as I
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tend to eat too much. If I want chocolate, I'll go to the mall and

buy a
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few pieces of good chocolate there.
--
Bob in CT
I try to avoid chocolate for as long as a can, but after a while, I do
need some. I try to make it good chocolate though.
I also have cooked a lot with chocolate. I'm an amateur chef. 😉 My
truffles and chocolate baked goods rock! If you give me until tonight,
I'll dig up some good info for you.
Martha

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Bob M
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9 March 2005, 17:26 UTC #14

On 9 Mar 2005 09:17:58 -0800, Black Metal Martha <[email hidden]>
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Bob M said:
On 9 Mar 2005 08:17:42 -0800, Black Metal Martha

<[email hidden]>
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Bob M wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:09:11 GMT, rosie read n' post
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > : I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have

ever
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> > tasted.
> > : Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder pressed into a
> > block.
> > : If anybody could actually eat that stuff for anything

approaching
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> >
> >
> > mixed with melted butter, whole cream, and splenda?
> > YUM!
> >
> >
>
> The one and only time I tried to make that, it separated. There

must
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be a
> trick to it.
>
> --
Chocolate seizes up if it's not prepared at the right temperature.

I
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don't have my chocolate book at work, but if you like, I can get

some
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
more concrete info for you.
Martha
Do you prepare this? When I made it (a long while ago), I melted the
Quoted message said:
chocolate in a double boiler, then took the chocolate off the boiler

and
Quoted message said:
added the ingredients, then spread the ingredients on foil and put in

the
Quoted message said:
fridge. This didn't work. Perhaps I should've waited for the

chocolate
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to cool?
As for looking this up, that's ok -- I try to avoid eating chocolate,

as I
Quoted message said:
tend to eat too much. If I want chocolate, I'll go to the mall and

buy a
Quoted message said:
few pieces of good chocolate there.
--
Bob in CT
I try to avoid chocolate for as long as a can, but after a while, I do
need some. I try to make it good chocolate though.
I also have cooked a lot with chocolate. I'm an amateur chef. 😉 My
truffles and chocolate baked goods rock! If you give me until tonight,
I'll dig up some good info for you.
Martha
Sounds fine to me. Maybe this year, after a long bike ride, I could have
some chocolate (I'll have to make it and freeze it, then bring it out
slowly).
--
Bob in CT

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Bob M
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9 March 2005, 17:39 UTC #15

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:::
::: I try to avoid chocolate for as long as a can, but after a while, I
::: do need some. I try to make it good chocolate though.
:::
::: I also have cooked a lot with chocolate. I'm an amateur chef. 😉 My
::: truffles and chocolate baked goods rock! If you give me until
::: tonight, I'll dig up some good info for you.
:::
::: Martha
:::
::
:: Sounds fine to me. Maybe this year, after a long bike ride, I could
:: have some chocolate (I'll have to make it and freeze it, then bring
:: it out slowly).
A local club here had a ride either in Jan or Feb. At the end, they had a
chocolate feast.
I think pam_in_sc did that ride and took flourless chocolate cake. I
couldn't go, but she brought me a piece. Good.
I made flourless chocolate cake once, for Christmas two years ago. It's
like cheesecake with no "cheese." That stuff was dense!
--
Bob in CT

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Crafting Mom
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9 March 2005, 17:43 UTC #16

None Given said:
I need to find out about this, too. My husband likes chocolate almond bars
so I need to make some that is low carb and won't come apart all over his
hands.
I've never seen homemade chocolate that doesn't melt in your hands.
I've seen people add a light coating of wax to prevent it.
But pure chocolate with real ingredients - melts IME

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Roger Zoul
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9 March 2005, 17:44 UTC #17

Bob M wrote:
:: On 9 Mar 2005 09:17:58 -0800, Black Metal Martha
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
:::
::: Bob M wrote:
:::: On 9 Mar 2005 08:17:42 -0800, Black Metal Martha
:::: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::::
:::::
::::: Bob M wrote:
:::::: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:09:11 GMT, rosie read n' post
:::::: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::::::
:::::::
:::::::
:::::::: I have tasted it. It was about the bitterest thing I have
:::::::: ever tasted. Absolutely vile. It was basically cocoa powder
:::::::: pressed into a block. If anybody could actually eat that stuff
:::::::: for anything approaching
:::::::
:::::::
::::::: mixed with melted butter, whole cream, and splenda?
::::::: YUM!
:::::::
:::::::
::::::
:::::: The one and only time I tried to make that, it separated. There
:::::: must be a trick to it.
::::::
:::::: --
:::::
::::: Chocolate seizes up if it's not prepared at the right
::::: temperature. I don't have my chocolate book at work, but if you
::::: like, I can get some more concrete info for you.
:::::
::::: Martha
:::::
::::
:::: Do you prepare this? When I made it (a long while ago), I melted
:::: the
:::
:::: chocolate in a double boiler, then took the chocolate off the
:::: boiler and added the ingredients, then spread the ingredients on
:::: foil and put in the fridge. This didn't work. Perhaps I
:::: should've waited for the chocolate to cool?
::::
:::: As for looking this up, that's ok -- I try to avoid eating
:::: chocolate, as I tend to eat too much. If I want chocolate, I'll
:::: go to the mall and buy a few pieces of good chocolate there.
::::
:::: --
:::: Bob in CT
:::
:::
::: I try to avoid chocolate for as long as a can, but after a while, I
::: do need some. I try to make it good chocolate though.
:::
::: I also have cooked a lot with chocolate. I'm an amateur chef. 😉 My
::: truffles and chocolate baked goods rock! If you give me until
::: tonight, I'll dig up some good info for you.
:::
::: Martha
:::
::
:: Sounds fine to me. Maybe this year, after a long bike ride, I could
:: have some chocolate (I'll have to make it and freeze it, then bring
:: it out slowly).
A local club here had a ride either in Jan or Feb. At the end, they had a
chocolate feast.
I think pam_in_sc did that ride and took flourless chocolate cake. I
couldn't go, but she brought me a piece. Good.

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Roger Zoul
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9 March 2005, 18:02 UTC #18

Bob M wrote:
:: [cut]
::::::
:::::: I try to avoid chocolate for as long as a can, but after a
:::::: while, I do need some. I try to make it good chocolate though.
::::::
:::::: I also have cooked a lot with chocolate. I'm an amateur chef. 😉
:::::: My truffles and chocolate baked goods rock! If you give me until
:::::: tonight, I'll dig up some good info for you.
::::::
:::::: Martha
::::::
:::::
::::: Sounds fine to me. Maybe this year, after a long bike ride, I
::::: could have some chocolate (I'll have to make it and freeze it,
::::: then bring it out slowly).
:::
::: A local club here had a ride either in Jan or Feb. At the end, they
::: had a chocolate feast.
::: I think pam_in_sc did that ride and took flourless chocolate cake.
::: I couldn't go, but she brought me a piece. Good.
:::
:::
::
:: I made flourless chocolate cake once, for Christmas two years ago.
:: It's like cheesecake with no "cheese." That stuff was dense!
::
No kidding. It doesn't take much.

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Opinicus
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9 March 2005, 18:31 UTC #19

"Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote
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I made flourless chocolate cake once, for Christmas two
years ago. It's like cheesecake with no "cheese."
Combining two things I love:
http://www.lowcarbluxury.com/recipes/recipe-cheesecake02.html
Chocolate and cheese...
Mmmm.
--
Bob
Kanyak's Doghouse
http://www.kanyak.com

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None Given
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9 March 2005, 20:02 UTC #20

"Crafting Mom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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None Given said:
I need to find out about this, too. My husband likes chocolate almond

bars
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
so I need to make some that is low carb and won't come apart all over

his
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hands.
I've never seen homemade chocolate that doesn't melt in your hands.
I've seen people add a light coating of wax to prevent it.
But pure chocolate with real ingredients - melts IME
I just want it not to make a mess, it needs to be more like a candy bar or a
piece of fudge
than pudding so he can eat it with his hands instead of a spoon.
--
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