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  1. geared unis are around, but tough to come by. perhaps if you rephrase
    your question in english we'd understand?

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  2. Do you know of the three speed bikes your parents rode, they have 3
    gears in the hub, you could easily use one of those hubs if you locked
    the freewheel, you could make it in to a 3 speed geraffe!.

    Ollie 🙂

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  3. you can convert a bicycle 3-speed freewheel hub gearbox into a 2 speed
    gearbox with direct drive to build into a giraffe, see
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/awfixed.html but I don't know anyone who
    has done this on a unicycle.

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  4. olmasters said:

    Do you know of the three speed bikes your parents rode, they have 3
    gears in the hub, you could easily use one of those hubs if you locked
    the freewheel, you could make it in to a 3 speed geraffe!.

    I'm not sure, but I think those hubs require some play in them in order
    to shift. In other words, when you're riding the bike, you have to
    coast a bit to get the gears to change? Maybe not, but what I do know
    is I've never seen a unicycle made from a shiftable (bicycle) hub, so I
    assume there is some technicality that makes it unworkable.

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  5. olmasters said:

    Do you know of the three speed bikes your parents rode, they have 3
    gears in the hub, you could easily use one of those hubs if you locked
    the freewheel, you could make it in to a 3 speed geraffe!.

    Ollie 🙂

    If these are the old Sturmey Archer hubs, you could also get a 4
    speed version. My mother still has one. Don't know if anyone has
    managed to modify and fit one to a uni though. As you say freewheel
    would need locking. If it were not so far from here I would check for
    play on the gear changes. If I remember correctly, you had to
    freewheel to change gear, but it is a long time ago that I last rode
    it so could be wrong.

    Nao

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  6. 7 speed hubs are also now available for bikes, and could possibly be
    used for a giraffe. The problem wiht a three geared shlumpf style hub
    would be changing gears, currently you press the button in one one side
    or the other, trying to move it only half the way in or something
    similar would be pretty tricky.

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  7. This came up on a thread a while back. In theory it's possible to
    modify a four or five speed Sturmey Archer hub into a three speed fixed
    hub, but there are reports that many bicyclists find there is too much
    slop, which is a bad sign for its usefulness on a unicycle. It's quite
    a bit of effort to do the modification, so I doubt if anybody has tried
    making a unicycle this way.

    Rob

    EDIT: 'Here's the old thread'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46593)

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  8. I've got an old bicycle with a sturmey-archer 3-speed. Shifting will
    sometimes work while pedaling, but it usually requires coasting, and
    sometimes back pedaling just a tad to get the gear to engage. You also
    have to adjust the cable just right to get all the gears to work in
    sync with the gear changer. If the rear wheel starts to slip on the
    dropouts a little, the 1st gear position randomly switches between 1st
    and 2nd gears and the 2nd gear position randomly switches between 2nd
    gear and freewheel (I've wrecked a few times from this happening).
    Needless to say I prefer the simplicity of my commuter uni to the speed
    of my bike.

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  9. 3-speed fixed gear hubs exist. Good luck finding one though.

    http://sheldonbrown.com/asc.html

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  10. I've ridden many bikes with 3 speed Sturmey Archer hubs, and one with a
    4 speed Shimano hub. To change gear, you need to easy the pressure on
    the gear train by pausing/freewheeling for a moment. The
    lever/twistgrip has to be adjusted just right.

    The hubs are built to work in one direction. The gears are cut to mesh
    with a certain amount of play.

    Any hub gear for a unicycle would need to be purpose-made, or would be
    of very limited application.

    I'm not convinced that gearing a uni is useful. Fun, maybe, but I see
    no practical application. Why choose a unicycle then try to make it
    perform like a bike?

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  11. Mikefule said:


    I'm not convinced that gearing a uni is useful. Fun, maybe, but I see
    no practical application. Why choose a unicycle then try to make it
    perform like a bike?

    I know one big reason - which is to make it possible to ride two
    different types of terrain on the same unicycle. For example, some
    people don't have cars to get themselves to muni trails, or prefer to
    ride to the trails when possible, for them a high gear to get to the
    trails and a low gear to ride them is a great idea. Or if you use a
    unicycle to commute on, it's great to be able to ride muni on the way,
    but generally boring to ride a really slow muni to work. Basically,
    it's potentially useful if you're not someone who always drives before
    going riding, and you use a unicycle as a mode of transport rather than
    just something to play around on. It's also a great idea for muni
    rides, because however well you plan, most long muni rides involve some
    road / forest track or easy singletrack riding that would be much more
    fun ridden at high speed.

    For me, even pretty easy muni riding like Bramcote is a bit dull on a
    coker, especially with 110 cranks for commuting, you can't ride the
    best bits, only really the across trails. Similarly, my commute takes
    ages and bits of it are way slow if I ride on the muni.

    Joe

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  12. Fair points well made.

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  13. Even if one of those fixed 3 speeds would hold up, I'd like to see how
    the shifting chain could be integated in with a modified axle that
    could accept cranks. I think we better count on Florian and Kris.

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  14. I think it would be used with a giraffe. BTW pdc, wanna go riding
    sometime? I graduate in a few weeks, and would love a trip up to the
    mountains.

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  15. hell-on-wheel said:

    BTW pdc, wanna go riding sometime? I graduate in a few weeks, and
    would love a trip up to the mountains.

    I'd love to. Give me a date and I'll try to set aside a Saturday or
    Sunday. That house is still vacant, we're not moving back there till
    July. If you and any other riders wanted to make a weekend out of it
    you'd be welcome.

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  16. Hey all this doesnt really relate much but just a thought i had to day,
    could you add the effect of gearing to a uni by having a device that,
    ideally lets you change the lenghts of the cranks on the fly, by
    allowing them to extend on a teloscopic principle (or something
    cleverer), or at worst have to dismount to change gear by manually
    adjusting crank lenght???
    This to me just seems an easy way to gear a uni cyle at low costs, so
    that leads me to belive i have missed a huge chunk of logic and this
    really cant work, well effectivley anyway.

    Firstly would this give the effect of gearing to the unicyle, secondly
    would it reduce the integrity of the cranks and finally would the
    varying crank lenghts makes the uni very hard to ride.

    ps: is this just a rubbish thought that has been dreamed up many times
    an just never done due to the stupidity of the idea??
    😕
    please some one let me know.

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  17. just-learnin-josh said:

    Hey all this doesnt really relate much but just a thought i had to day,
    could you add the effect of gearing to a uni by having a device that,
    ideally lets you change the lenghts of the cranks on the fly, by
    allowing them to extend on a teloscopic principle (or something
    cleverer), or at worst have to dismount to change gear by manually
    adjusting crank lenght???
    This to me just seems an easy way to gear a uni cyle at low costs, so
    that leads me to belive i have missed a huge chunk of logic and this
    really cant work, well effectivley anyway.

    Firstly would this give the effect of gearing to the unicyle, secondly
    would it reduce the integrity of the cranks and finally would the
    varying crank lenghts makes the uni very hard to ride.

    ps: is this just a rubbish thought that has been dreamed up many times
    an just never done due to the stupidity of the idea??
    😕
    please some one let me know.

    I have never heard of this,. but it seems like it would work, only
    problem i really see is that your cranks would be hollow which could
    lead to them breaking easier.

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    great minds think alike....
    orrrrr... great minds get naked and unicycle?

    Kristine said:

    pssssshhhhh, whos been on top longest?


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