race report: staten island half

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Splits: 6:07 5:55 6:56 5:12 6:12 5:48 5:59 6:48 5:50 5:05 6:51 6:12

6:40(1.1)

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I think that's moderately positive, but not enough to feel like a crash

and

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burn.

whoohoo! As it happens, moderately positive is my first cousin.

good job. As far as I'm concerned, you met your dream goal. 10 seconds in
a half-marathon is nothing

Thanks for the report.

Karen

Leafing through rec.running, I read Donovan Rebbechi's message of 17 Oct
2004:

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I went into this shooting for a sub 1:20, and dreaming about a
1:19:30.

<snip>

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Then the clock is on 18:00 and I'm wondering, where is the mile 3
marker ? Saw it around the corner, turned to my teammate and said,
"that's wrong". Hit it in 6:56. Had a lump in my stomach. Had they
messed up the course again ? Or were they drunk when they were
positioning the markers ?

Surely everyone around you had Forerunners. Why didn't you ask one of
them? ;-)

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Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Way to go Donovan! 10 seconds off of "dream" time. Not to shabby. Does
this change your goals for November 7?

Phil M.

--
"What counts in battle is what you do once the pain sets in." -John
Short, South African coach.

Phil M. said:

Leafing through rec.running, I read Donovan Rebbechi's message of 17 Oct
2004:

Quoted message said:

I went into this shooting for a sub 1:20, and dreaming about a
1:19:30.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Then the clock is on 18:00 and I'm wondering, where is the mile 3
marker ? Saw it around the corner, turned to my teammate and said,
"that's wrong". Hit it in 6:56. Had a lump in my stomach. Had they
messed up the course again ? Or were they drunk when they were
positioning the markers ?

Surely everyone around you had Forerunners. Why didn't you ask one of
them? ;-)

<snip>

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Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Way to go Donovan! 10 seconds off of "dream" time. Not to shabby. Does
this change your goals for November 7?

Not really. 20 seconds (or about 40 seconds for marathon time) is well within
the error margins.

But it does make me feel better going into the big one, knowing that my fitness
over the half is up to scratch. My previous PR for the half was 81:49. It's
not an all-time best, but it's my third best over any distance.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

<< Surely everyone around you had Forerunners. Why didn't you ask one of
them? ;-) >>

Is that, like, a foreskin?
Perhaps Sir Cumference
Will explain to me, this thing of men?
I know not. Nature gave not that lens.
Words must do; I'm straddling a fence.

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<< Surely everyone around you had Forerunners. Why didn't you ask one

of

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them? ;-) >>

Is that, like, a foreskin?
Perhaps Sir Cumference
Will explain to me, this thing of men?

It's a GPS watch made specifically for runners. Not necessarily a thing
of men, but I think men tend to like these sort of devices.
http://www.garmin.com/products/forerunner201

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I know not. Nature gave not that lens.
Words must do; I'm straddling a fence.

Sounds like fun. Enjoy!

tkb

<< It's a GPS watch made specifically for runners. Not necessarily a thing
of men, but I think men tend to like these sort of devices. >>

But why does one need to know
Longtitude and latitude,
While running?

<< Sounds like fun. Enjoy!
tkb >>

You are most kind.
Man thanks.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Donovan Rebbechi

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So I was at mile 4 in 24:12, with wonky mile markers. Decided at this point
that the mile markers were completely useless, and I was working off a pack
which included 5 guys from my team, so I kept recording splits, but didn't
pay too much attention to them. It seemed to be going well enough, and I was
running with people who I knew would go sub 1:20.

At about mile 9, the pack broke up. I stayed with them until mile 11, where
they surged ahead. I held pace but didn't have gas to accelerate.

Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Splits: 6:07 5:55 6:56 5:12 6:12 5:48 5:59 6:48 5:50 5:05 6:51 6:12 6:40(1.1)

I think that's moderately positive, but not enough to feel like a crash and
burn.

Cheers,

Looks like you had an interesting race today. Was wondering if there
was a surge at mile 9 (5:05). The splits for miles 9 to 12 reminded me
of my splits when I'd run a 5K with the first mile too fast, 2nd mile a
total recovery especially with all the mental talk taking place in my
head and then settling down for the 3rd mile.

So what is your ideal for the 7th? What is your target? What does
your body feel it's capable of letting out? I continually am amazed at
how the brain can get it the way when it starts to think too much.
This is where I go back to focus on breath patterns 2/1 or 3/2 to stop
myself from mental chatter.

In health and on the run,
Ozzie Gontang
Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975
Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/
Mindful Running:
http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.asp

Her One said:

<< It's a GPS watch made specifically for runners. Not necessarily a

thing

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of men, but I think men tend to like these sort of devices. >>

But why does one need to know
Longtitude and latitude,
While running?

One need not know
Long or lat
It's a dude thang

tkb

Her One said:

<< It's a GPS watch made specifically for runners. Not necessarily a

thing

Quoted message said:

of men, but I think men tend to like these sort of devices. >>

But why does one need to know
Longtitude and latitude,
While running?

One need not know
Long or lat
It's a dude thang

tkb

Donovan Rebbechi wrote in message ...

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.......
But it does make me feel better going into the big one, knowing that my

fitness

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over the half is up to scratch. My previous PR for the half was 81:49.

It's

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not an all-time best, but it's my third best over any distance.

Great race Donovan. Based on your splits almost all the mile markers looked
messed up. Someone should politely ask the race director about that, unless
the entry fee is high, in which case someone should bark at the race
director. When you say it's your 3rd best ever you're talking Wava?

- Tony

Tony said:

Great race Donovan. Based on your splits almost all the mile markers looked
messed up.

I think they were all placed by total distance. So most of them were about
right, there were just a few (maybe 2 or so) that were way off.

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Someone should politely ask the race director about that, unless
the entry fee is high, in which case someone should bark at the race
director.

(-; This course has had problems over the years, it was the wrong length the
last couple of years. I suspect they did some rerouting to fine-tune the
length of the course, and didn't adjust some of the mile markers.

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When you say it's your 3rd best ever you're talking Wava?

Yep. The other two were a 5 miler (75.3) and a 4 miler (74.9). This one was
a 74.8. But both the 4 and 5 miler races were after sharpening. No taper
or peaking for this race.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Her One said:

<< It's a GPS watch made specifically for runners. Not necessarily a

thing

Quoted message said:

of men, but I think men tend to like these sort of devices. >>

But why does one need to know
Longtitude and latitude,
While running?

One need not know
Long or lat
It's a dude thang

tkb >>

whatever.
thanks! 🙂

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Donovan Rebbechi said:

Took the ferry down

Wobbot will have a field day with that one.

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o Staten Island for the key tune-up race for the
marathon. The course was wrong the last two years, so we were apprehensive
about it. But the timing was perfect for a marathon tune-up, and besides,
it was a team points race. So me and my team-mates showed up.

I went into this shooting for a sub 1:20, and dreaming about a 1:19:30.

It started off well enough. First two miles, aided by cool weather, drifted
by in 6:07 and a downhill 5:55. Then the clock is on 18:00 and I'm wondering,
where is the mile 3 marker ? Saw it around the corner, turned to my teammate
and said, "that's wrong". Hit it in 6:56. Had a lump in my stomach. Had they
messed up the course again ? Or were they drunk when they were positioning
the markers ? I hoped for the latter -- but were we on a 6:20 pace or a 6:00
pace ? Whatever it was, it felt right, so I kept going, and to my relief, I
ran mile 4 in 5:12 without any discernable change in effort.

So I was at mile 4 in 24:12, with wonky mile markers. Decided at this point
that the mile markers were completely useless, and I was working off a pack
which included 5 guys from my team, so I kept recording splits, but didn't
pay too much attention to them. It seemed to be going well enough, and I was
running with people who I knew would go sub 1:20.

At about mile 9, the pack broke up. I stayed with them until mile 11, where
they surged ahead. I held pace but didn't have gas to accelerate.

Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Splits: 6:07 5:55 6:56 5:12 6:12 5:48 5:59 6:48 5:50 5:05 6:51 6:12 6:40(1.1)

I think that's moderately positive, but not enough to feel like a crash and
burn.

Cheers,

I heard you DNF, but I don't spread rumors.

Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Took the ferry down

Figuratively, or literally? Oh nevermind, I already know....

-DF

Donovan Rebbechi said:

I went into this shooting for a sub 1:20, and dreaming about a 1:19:30

Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Close to the dream! Congrats on the PR for the distance.

My last Marathon had some wrong km markers - was quite disconcerting and
you really don't need it.
In fact our local top female runner was shooting for an olympic
qualifying time at this race, and the bad km markers
could have had something to do with her missing the time by around 1
minute. Thankfully she qualified a couple of
months later at the Paris marathon.

Good luck for the marathon.

Anthony.

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But it does make me feel better going into the big one, knowing that
my fitness
over the half is up to scratch. My previous PR for the half was
81:49. It's
not an all-time best, but it's my third best over any distance.

Good race yada yada. 😉 Taking this run into account what will be your
strategy for the marathon? Confess! Are you looking for a 2:5n at NY???

-DougF

Doug Freese said:

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But it does make me feel better going into the big one, knowing that
my fitness
over the half is up to scratch. My previous PR for the half was
81:49. It's
not an all-time best, but it's my third best over any distance.

Good race yada yada. 😉 Taking this run into account what will be your
strategy for the marathon? Confess! Are you looking for a 2:5n at NY???

Looking for about 2:50, but we'll have to see how I am on the day. If I'm
feeling good, I'll go out at 1:25 and see what happens.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Splits: 6:07 5:55 6:56 5:12 6:12 5:48 5:59 6:48 5:50 5:05 6:51 6:12 6:40(1.1)

Excellent! How was the wind? Here on LI it was gusty but not terrible.

Congratulations. Must be all those "quality miles".

Andy

amh said:

Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Crossed the finish in a net time of 1:19:40.

Splits: 6:07 5:55 6:56 5:12 6:12 5:48 5:59 6:48 5:50 5:05 6:51 6:12
6:40(1.1)

Excellent! How was the wind? Here on LI it was gusty but not terrible.

It was quite windy, but not terrible. Still, it was windy enough that
the pack I was running in decided that drafting was a good idea, especially
given that there were half a dozen or so of us in the pack -- we alternated the
lead like a group of cyclists. Not sure if it helped much, but it didn't
hurt.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/