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  1. Roger Zoul said:

    Sugar doesn't show up in urine until you're in big trouble. Please
    don't go there.

    That makes sense. I was just reading an article by Dr. Bernstein,
    where he talks about how when he was young, he had to do the urine
    testing, but he later realized that was a waste of time because it
    only showed what you were losing, not what was in your blood.

    Quoted message said:

    The pricking is a pain, but you can handle it.

    Oh, I'm sure I'll be able to. I'm just surprised they haven't come up
    with a saliva test or something by now.

    Bernstein's life story (the short version; I don't have the book yet)
    is quite an inspiration. He'd been told there was nothing he could do
    except take lots of insulin and expect to die early, so he went out
    and educated himself -- which was a lot more expensive and difficult
    than it is now -- and proved an entire establishment industry wrong.
    No one wanted to hear about it, and the ADA and others did their best
    to suppress what he had to say (and still do, apparently).

    Thank God information flows too freely for that to be possible
    anymore. They may still be able to keep opposing ideas from appearing
    in mainstream news outlets, but if you go looking for the truth, they
    can't keep it from you.

    --
    Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

  2. UsenetID wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: Sugar doesn't show up in urine until you're in big trouble. Please
    ::: don't go there.
    ::
    :: Oh great. I was at the walk-in clinic last week because I got sick
    :: after hours...they said there was sugar in my urine, that's a first
    :: for me. My glucose levels were normal in some blood work I'd had
    :: done in February (I've been quite ill since December), but they
    :: didn't do a glucose tolerance test or anything. Should I make an
    :: appointment with my doctor about this? The clinic doctor didn't
    :: seem too concerned... --
    :: Sherry
    :: lowcarb.owly.net

    What numbers do you see on your meter? Seeing sugar in your urine usually
    means your BG has been really high for a good while.

    I would go see my doc.

    Of course, getting sick can make BG levels rise, so don't be too alarmed. I
    assume you're testing and that you know how your numbers run, right?
    Hmm....from the sound of this it would seem you're not testing. Please start
    if you're not. High BGs will get you....

  3. Aaron Baugher wrote:

    ::
    :: Thank God information flows too freely for that to be possible
    :: anymore. They may still be able to keep opposing ideas from
    :: appearing in mainstream news outlets, but if you go looking for the
    :: truth, they can't keep it from you.

    Have you been to www.diabetesincontrol.com yet?

  4. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What numbers do you see on your meter? Seeing sugar in your urine usually
    means your BG has been really high for a good while.

    I would go see my doc.

    Of course, getting sick can make BG levels rise, so don't be too alarmed.
    I assume you're testing and that you know how your numbers run, right?
    Hmm....from the sound of this it would seem you're not testing. Please
    start if you're not. High BGs will get you....


    Nope, not testing, never been diagnosed with diabetes, never had any issues
    with sugar in blood or urine before, and wouldn't even know how to test.
    So, maybe the first step will be my doc...

    Thanks, Roger 🙂.

    --
    Sherry
    lowcarb.owly.net

  5. On Fri, 04 May 2007 12:48:01 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Aaron Baugher wrote:

    ::
    :: Thank God information flows too freely for that to be possible
    :: anymore. They may still be able to keep opposing ideas from
    :: appearing in mainstream news outlets, but if you go looking for the
    :: truth, they can't keep it from you.

    Have you been to www.diabetesincontrol.com yet?


    Roger, what part of that site do you recommend? Some of it seems a bit
    overboard to me:

    "LDL Under 100 Not Low Enough: and HDL of 60 Gains Support"

    Eeek!

    --
    Bob in CT

  6. Roger Zoul said:

    Aaron Baugher wrote:
    :: Thank God information flows too freely for that to be possible
    :: anymore. They may still be able to keep opposing ideas from
    :: appearing in mainstream news outlets, but if you go looking for the
    :: truth, they can't keep it from you.

    Have you been to www.diabetesincontrol.com yet?

    No, but it's bookmarked now, so I'll make it there at some point.
    Thanks!

    --
    Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

    Boswell : "So, Sir, you laugh at schemes of political improvement?"
    Johnson: "Why, Sir, most schemes of political improvement are very
    laughable things."

  7. UsenetID said:

    Oh great. I was at the walk-in clinic last week because I got sick after
    hours...they said there was sugar in my urine, that's a first for me. My
    glucose levels were normal in some blood work I'd had done in February (I've
    been quite ill since December), but they didn't do a glucose tolerance test
    or anything. Should I make an appointment with my doctor about this? The
    clinic doctor didn't seem too concerned...

    If there's sugar in your urine, your bg is VERY high. If your urine
    starts getting colorless, it's VERY VERY high.

    If you're sick, bg runs high though, so don't take readings very
    seriously if you're sick

    I'd suggest buying a meter and monitoring yourself for a week or
    two. Test upon rising and 1 and 2 hours after each meal or snack.

    BTW, if you do consider buying a meter, don't worry about what the
    meter costs, but what the strips cost. A free meter with expensive
    strips is a false economy.

    If your bg does run above 100 during most of your readings, check this
    out: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

    The *primary* tool for controlling bg is a low-carb diet and
    exercise. Many people can control their bg just fine with that.

    IMO, you really only need a doctor involved for prescriptions. But...
    bear in mind that I was a biochemistry graduate student when I was
    diagnosed and had a full research library available to me. I've found
    few doctors who knew nearly what I did, so that may be why I consider
    them unnecessary except for scripts. After 18 years of being
    diabetic, I'm even less impressed with medical professionals than when
    I began. Other people may find having a doctor involved more useful
    than I do.

    If bg is not controlled via diet and exercise, the best medication to
    start with is metformin.

  8. This is not necessarily true if you are drinking the water you are supposed
    to be drinking your urine will be almost colorless.

    If your urine

    Quoted message said:

    starts getting colorless, it's VERY VERY high.

    This might be true if you have an infection of some type not every illness
    raises your blood sugar

    Quoted message said:

    If you're sick, bg runs high though, so don't take readings very


    seriously if you're sick

  9. "PB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is not necessarily true if you are drinking the water you are
    supposed to be drinking your urine will be almost colorless.

    The specialists I saw at the university who gave me my diagnosis (not
    related to the UTI) told me NOT to drink tons of water. I'd been doing so
    because I thought I was helping myself. Not so; apparently the "drink as
    much water as you possibly can" idea is not always the best thing to do.
    --
    Sherry
    lowcarb.owly.net

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If there's sugar in your urine, your bg is VERY high. If your urine
    starts getting colorless, it's VERY VERY high.

    If you're sick, bg runs high though, so don't take readings very
    seriously if you're sick

    I'd suggest buying a meter and monitoring yourself for a week or
    two. Test upon rising and 1 and 2 hours after each meal or snack.

    BTW, if you do consider buying a meter, don't worry about what the
    meter costs, but what the strips cost. A free meter with expensive
    strips is a false economy.

    If your bg does run above 100 during most of your readings, check this
    out: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

    The *primary* tool for controlling bg is a low-carb diet and
    exercise. Many people can control their bg just fine with that.

    IMO, you really only need a doctor involved for prescriptions. But...
    bear in mind that I was a biochemistry graduate student when I was
    diagnosed and had a full research library available to me. I've found
    few doctors who knew nearly what I did, so that may be why I consider
    them unnecessary except for scripts. After 18 years of being
    diabetic, I'm even less impressed with medical professionals than when
    I began. Other people may find having a doctor involved more useful
    than I do.

    If bg is not controlled via diet and exercise, the best medication to
    start with is metformin.


    Kills me that I gave away a perfectly good meter a few months ago, thinking
    I'd never need it. But will get another and thanks for the tip about the
    price of the strips. (Reminds me of buying a cheap printer that uses
    expensive ink cartridges...)

    Since I developed this illness in December my doctor wanted me to not worry
    about losing weight until we got a good diagnosis. A couple of hospitals,
    many specialists, days of testing, and nearly 4 months later I finally got
    one down at the university...but until that point I wanted to make sure I
    did everything the doctor told me so nobody could point any fingers at me
    for being an uncooperative patient, or it being my "fault" if they couldn't
    figure it out. So, although my doctor didn't tell me to give up low carb,
    and was happy that I've been eating a lot of veggies, I did eat more
    grain-based foods than I had for the last 2 years - occasional low-carb
    toast with my fried eggs, low-carb tortilla wraps instead of romaine, a bowl
    of oatmeal once a week - and I'm wondering if that could have anything to do
    with it also?

    I'm back to my previous enjoyable eating habits now however, which includes
    no grain-based foods, and also start checking with the meter. I believe I
    will find it useful anyway, as I have questioned the effects of some foods
    on my BG over the last couple of years anyway.

    Thanks again 🙂.

    --
    Sherry
    lowcarb.owly.net

  11. UsenetID wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: What numbers do you see on your meter? Seeing sugar in your urine
    ::: usually means your BG has been really high for a good while.
    :::
    ::: I would go see my doc.
    :::
    ::: Of course, getting sick can make BG levels rise, so don't be too
    ::: alarmed. I assume you're testing and that you know how your numbers
    ::: run, right? Hmm....from the sound of this it would seem you're not
    ::: testing. Please start if you're not. High BGs will get you....
    :::
    :: Nope, not testing, never been diagnosed with diabetes, never had any
    :: issues with sugar in blood or urine before, and wouldn't even know
    :: how to test. So, maybe the first step will be my doc...
    ::
    :: Thanks, Roger 🙂.

    Given that someone with medical experience told you that, I'd recommend you
    get it looked at ASAP, please....

  12. Bob in CT wrote:
    :: On Fri, 04 May 2007 12:48:01 -0400, Roger Zoul
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Aaron Baugher wrote:
    :::
    :::::
    ::::: Thank God information flows too freely for that to be possible
    ::::: anymore. They may still be able to keep opposing ideas from
    ::::: appearing in mainstream news outlets, but if you go looking for
    ::::: the truth, they can't keep it from you.
    :::
    ::: Have you been to www.diabetesincontrol.com yet?
    :::
    :::
    :: Roger, what part of that site do you recommend? Some of it seems a
    :: bit overboard to me:
    ::
    :: "LDL Under 100 Not Low Enough: and HDL of 60 Gains Support"
    ::
    :: Eeek!

    Well, these are people who are part of the medical establishment. Frankly,
    I too don't follow the chol hogwash, either, but I still think that
    diabetics needs to read *ALL* info they can on management of diabetics, not
    just that which agrees with our viewpoint. IMO, we must have all viewpoints
    to keep ourselves in balance. I'm willing to switch my position if one side
    provides stronger evidence, but you can't do that if you're unaware.

    In relation to your question, though, I recommend the site because Bernstein
    is very visable there, and his ultra LC approach is more than enough for
    most diabetics, IMO. In other words, even if you can't reach his level of
    "LC perfection", you're still likely to be fine as long as you try
    (typically, an approach like Atkins is good enough).

  13. UsenetID wrote:
    :: "PB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: This is not necessarily true if you are drinking the water you are
    ::: supposed to be drinking your urine will be almost colorless.
    ::
    :: The specialists I saw at the university who gave me my diagnosis (not
    :: related to the UTI) told me NOT to drink tons of water. I'd been
    :: doing so because I thought I was helping myself. Not so; apparently
    :: the "drink as much water as you possibly can" idea is not always the
    :: best thing to do. --
    :: Sherry
    :: lowcarb.owly.net

    I don't see why people believe that downing all of that water has some
    magical properties, anyway.

    Of course, this is a matter of degree. One can get colorless urine without
    drinking tons of water. So, where is the line ? I certainly don't like
    having to pee every 5 minutes.

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