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  1. Mark Thompson said:
    Quoted message said:

    call me old fashioned but I prefer
    the paper envelopes, we delivered those for free in my day.

    Might be time to start volunteering again then?

    does working for the NHS count?
    actually I do sell raffle tickets for the charities which get through
    my TPS (they have to ask permission) among other things, bike rides
    included.

    just been doing a quick bit of web research; it seems chuggers earn the
    charities £3 for each £1 they cost, but it only pays after about
    12-18 months. Most DD's last about 6 years.

  2. Dave said:


    The person on the other ende went straight into their spiel so when I
    could get a word in I asked them to slow down and give me the name of
    the company for who they were working and their full name and
    telephone number (in case they had blacked the number), and from
    where the list they were using came from and advised them that as I
    was registered with the TPS they were actually breaking the law by
    ringing me so that I would be reporting them - I got lots of
    apologies.

    I once got pestered by some firm after I stopping in the street for their
    market research. They then contacted me wanting to know how I feat about
    doing the research. They wouldn't take no for an answer so I told them that
    if they asked me to do anything else at all I would treat it as an offer of
    work and charge my usual hourly rate.

    Never heard from them again.

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  3. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/moneybox/3760169.stm
    'Chuggers' face new controls

    New rules to control paid street fundraisers who encourage people to
    sign up for direct debit donations have been unveiled by the
    government.
    In future the agents will need permits to operate, and local
    authorities may choose to restrict the numbers operating in certain
    areas, or at particular times.

    The draft Charities Bill was part of a major overhaul in charity law
    announced this week. It was welcomed by the fundraisers who see it as a
    vote of confidence in their work.

    The paid agents have suffered from a poor public image in the past.
    Dubbed "chuggers", short for charity muggers, they have been criticised
    for being pushy, and because they operate in groups.

    The Charities Minister Fiona MacTaggart admitted the public is
    'besieged' by paid fundraisers in some places and that it risks
    damaging the public's goodwill towards giving to charity.

    Speaking to the BBC Radio 4's Money Box she said:

    "If we make sure that we can regulate the number of fundraisers in an
    area, and that there can be real clarity about [where the money] goes,
    and what sorts of costs are involved in fundraising, then we can make
    sure people stay confident in charities' ability to do good."

    When someone signs up on the street, the vast majority of most
    donations in the first year actually goes to pay the agent and their
    firm.

    The charity employing them is investing in the hope that people will
    keep donations going for many years, because it will then begin to
    benefit.
    It is a controversial fundraising method since it cannot always be
    guaranteed to pay off for the charity, but in drafting the legislation
    the government has in effect given it approval to continue.

    The minister said she wanted to educate the public that it does cost
    money to raise funds.

    She said: "I think that there is this kind of myth that things are
    free. I am keen to educate the public... It might cost 90 pence in the
    pound in the first year... [But] It is right, so long as you know what
    the cost is."

    Investment medium

    Despite that, the proposals do not yet insist that street agents reveal
    exactly how much of a person's donation is going to help the charity
    initially.

    Sue Brumpton of the Public Fundraising Regulatory Association, which
    represents fundraisers, does not think street agents will ever say
    that. She told the programme:

    In areas where there has not been any yet, fundraising will start

    Sue Brumpton, Public Fundraising Regulatory Association

    "It will never be possible because it depends on how much you give and
    how long you give for.

    "Some of your money is obviously going to pay wages, and to pay the
    overhead costs of that fundraising agency.

    "But if you think that it is an investment medium, it is at least a
    three-to-one return on the charity's investment."

    And while the new licensing system might mean fewer street agents in
    existing hot spots, they will now be free to spread out across the
    country, as Sue Brampton admits:

    "In areas where there has not been any yet, fundraising will start.

    "It is unfortunate that people can find things irritating, but
    face-to-face fundraisers are going to become part of the street
    furniture trying to help charity do their good work."

  4. "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Jon Senior wrote:

    , the overheads of

    Quoted message said:

    paying two or three people the minimum wage is probably less (And
    certainly less damaging to the environment) than the total costs of
    distributing and collecting small paper envelopes.

    ok maybe I'm being simplistic; maybe charities don't use volunteers
    anymore, but is this what it has come to? half the direct debit going
    to the charity better than none.? call me old fashioned but I prefer
    the paper envelopes, we delivered those for free in my day.

    In Norwich and occasionally in Dereham it can be difficult to walk down the
    main street without being accosted by chuggers. I am polite to said chuggers
    with a simple, "no thank you" if I am approached. I do, however, make a
    mental note of the charity (as given by name on chugger's vest) and will not
    donate to said charity ever again. I *loathe* charity mugging, especially
    after one occasion when I was accosted by somone chugging for a children's
    charity and as I said "No thank you" politely, he *shouted* "So you don't
    care about children, then?"

    Cheers, helen s

  5. wafflycat said:

    I *loathe* charity mugging, especially
    after one occasion when I was accosted by somone chugging for a children's
    charity and as I said "No thank you" politely, he *shouted* "So you don't
    care about children, then?"

    I had someone who was becoming abusive like that. It happened that the
    charity was "Save the Children". I suggested that they could save the
    whole set, and offered mine. Since then, there seems to have been some
    sort of training, as "no thanks", or "not now", or similar seems to
    work better.

    PhilD

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  6. wafflycat said:

    In Norwich and occasionally in Dereham it can be difficult to walk down the
    main street without being accosted by chuggers.

    we don't have them here; the Scientologists would probably eat them
    alive....

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