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27 September 2005, 04:08 UTC #1

Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a good
recipe and have lost it.
TIA
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Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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Pandora
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27 September 2005, 14:25 UTC #2

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Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a good
recipe and have lost it.
If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
Let me know.
Pan

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Wayne Boatwright
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27 September 2005, 15:32 UTC #3

On Tue 27 Sep 2005 07:25:54a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a good
recipe and have lost it.
If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
Let me know.
Pan
Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
Thanks!
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Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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Pandora
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27 September 2005, 15:41 UTC #4

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Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a good
recipe and have lost it.
If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
Let me know.
Pan
Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
Thanks!
Well! I have spocken too early 🙂
I have the recipe in a book I left in Rome. The recipe was a very very good
recipe.
Now I've telephoned to my mother :she will e-mail it to me ASAP.
I hope you aren't in a hurry !
Could you wait? Perhaps I have it this evening .
Cheers
Pandora

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27 September 2005, 15:50 UTC #5

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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a
> good
> recipe and have lost it.
>
If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
Let me know.
Pan
Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
Thanks!
Well! I have spocken too early 🙂
I have the recipe in a book I left in Rome. The recipe was a very very
good recipe.
Now I've telephoned to my mother :she will e-mail it to me ASAP.
I hope you aren't in a hurry !
Could you wait? Perhaps I have it this evening .
Cheers
Pandora

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I forgot to say another thing. In Italy there are many recipes of "Zuppa
Inglese". Every region has a different recipe. Some "Zuppe inglesi" are made
with chocolate only. Others use cream and liqueur. Other use biscuits
instead of "Pan di Spagna"
The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
Cheers
Pandora
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Dee Randall
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27 September 2005, 16:05 UTC #6

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On Tue 27 Sep 2005 07:25:54a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:[email hidden]...
>> Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a
>> good
>> recipe and have lost it.
>>
>
> If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
> Let me know.
> Pan
Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
Thanks!
Well! I have spocken too early 🙂
I have the recipe in a book I left in Rome. The recipe was a very very
good recipe.
Now I've telephoned to my mother :she will e-mail it to me ASAP.
I hope you aren't in a hurry !
Could you wait? Perhaps I have it this evening .
Cheers
Pandora

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I forgot to say another thing. In Italy there are many recipes of "Zuppa
Inglese". Every region has a different recipe. Some "Zuppe inglesi" are
made with chocolate only. Others use cream and liqueur. Other use biscuits
instead of "Pan di Spagna"
The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
Cheers
Pandora
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Pandora, for what it's worth, I've never seen a substance: 'yellow one made
with eggs' referred to as "Cream." Perhaps it might be referred to in a
recipe as the "Cream mixture."
Dee Dee

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Puester
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27 September 2005, 17:52 UTC #7

Pandora said:
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A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
Cheers
Pandora
Creme Anglais, custard sauce, or custard cream.
gloria p

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27 September 2005, 18:18 UTC #8

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> On Tue 27 Sep 2005 07:25:54a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> news:[email hidden]...
>>> Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a
>>> good
>>> recipe and have lost it.
>>>
>>
>> If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
>> Let me know.
>> Pan
>
> Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
>
> Thanks!
Well! I have spocken too early 🙂
I have the recipe in a book I left in Rome. The recipe was a very very
good recipe.
Now I've telephoned to my mother :she will e-mail it to me ASAP.
I hope you aren't in a hurry !
Could you wait? Perhaps I have it this evening .
Cheers
Pandora

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I forgot to say another thing. In Italy there are many recipes of "Zuppa
Inglese". Every region has a different recipe. Some "Zuppe inglesi" are
made with chocolate only. Others use cream and liqueur. Other use
biscuits instead of "Pan di Spagna"
The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
Cheers
Pandora
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Pandora, for what it's worth, I've never seen a substance: 'yellow one
made with eggs' referred to as "Cream." Perhaps it might be referred to in
a recipe as the "Cream mixture."
Dee Dee
Ok! In my vocabulary Cream is "Panna" and is "Crema" 🙂)))
Here is why I asked !
Pandora
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27 September 2005, 18:25 UTC #9

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Pandora said:
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A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
Cheers
Pandora
Creme Anglais, custard sauce, or custard cream.
gloria p
Thank you Gloria! You have e-mailed me, before. So I answered to you in
private!
Cheers
Pandora

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Wayne Boatwright
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27 September 2005, 18:40 UTC #10

On Tue 27 Sep 2005 08:41:43a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Tue 27 Sep 2005 07:25:54a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a
> good recipe and have lost it.
>
If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
Let me know.
Pan
Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
Thanks!
Well! I have spocken too early 🙂
I have the recipe in a book I left in Rome. The recipe was a very very
good recipe.
Now I've telephoned to my mother :she will e-mail it to me ASAP.
I hope you aren't in a hurry !
Could you wait? Perhaps I have it this evening .
Cheers
Pandora
Thank you so much, Pandora, for going to so much trouble. Time is not an
issue, but I will be very pleased to have it.
Cheers!
--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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27 September 2005, 18:42 UTC #11

On Tue 27 Sep 2005 08:50:31a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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"Pandora" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Tue 27 Sep 2005 07:25:54a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:[email hidden]...
>> Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a
>> good recipe and have lost it.
>>
>
> If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
> Let me know.
> Pan
Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
Thanks!
Well! I have spocken too early 🙂
I have the recipe in a book I left in Rome. The recipe was a very very
good recipe.
Now I've telephoned to my mother :she will e-mail it to me ASAP.
I hope you aren't in a hurry !
Could you wait? Perhaps I have it this evening .
Cheers
Pandora

--------------------------------------------------------
I forgot to say another thing. In Italy there are many recipes of "Zuppa
Inglese". Every region has a different recipe. Some "Zuppe inglesi" are
made with chocolate only. Others use cream and liqueur. Other use
biscuits instead of "Pan di Spagna"
The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
The recipe I lost did not use biscuits. It used a "sponge cake" instead.
Quoted message said:
A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
In this case, I believe the "cream" is actually a type of custard,
something like "Creme Anglaise".
Quoted message said:
Cheers
Pandora
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Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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Pandora
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27 September 2005, 18:47 UTC #12

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Tue 27 Sep 2005 08:50:31a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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"Pandora" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Tue 27 Sep 2005 07:25:54a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> news:[email hidden]...
>>> Pandora, do you have a recipe for Zuppa Anglaise? I used to have a
>>> good recipe and have lost it.
>>>
>>
>> If you mean the cake "Zuppa Inglese", I have.
>> Let me know.
>> Pan
>
> Yes, the cake. That's what I mean.
>
> Thanks!
Well! I have spocken too early 🙂
I have the recipe in a book I left in Rome. The recipe was a very very
good recipe.
Now I've telephoned to my mother :she will e-mail it to me ASAP.
I hope you aren't in a hurry !
Could you wait? Perhaps I have it this evening .
Cheers
Pandora

--------------------------------------------------------
I forgot to say another thing. In Italy there are many recipes of "Zuppa
Inglese". Every region has a different recipe. Some "Zuppe inglesi" are
made with chocolate only. Others use cream and liqueur. Other use
biscuits instead of "Pan di Spagna"
The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
The recipe I lost did not use biscuits. It used a "sponge cake" instead.
Quoted message said:
A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
In this case, I believe the "cream" is actually a type of custard,
something like "Creme Anglaise".
yes! Ok! Someone told me that!
Pandora

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Pandora
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27 September 2005, 18:54 UTC #13

Wayne! My mother sent me just now the recipe of "Zuppa inglese".
I must translate but I can't do it now!
Be patient!
Cheers
Pandora

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Wayne Boatwright
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27 September 2005, 19:05 UTC #14

On Tue 27 Sep 2005 11:54:47a, Pandora wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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Wayne! My mother sent me just now the recipe of "Zuppa inglese".
I must translate but I can't do it now!
Be patient!
Cheers
Pandora
There's no hurry, Pandora. Whenever you get time is fine.
Thank you!
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Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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Nathalie Chiva
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28 September 2005, 11:11 UTC #15

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:50:31 +0200, "Pandora" <[email hidden]>
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The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
What is alchermes made of exactly ? I've never made Zuppa Inglese
because I can't find a liqueur by that name here.
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A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
In French we call the egg cream "crème anglaise".
Nathalie

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28 September 2005, 11:18 UTC #16

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:50:31 +0200, "Pandora" <[email hidden]>
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The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
What is alchermes made of exactly ? I've never made Zuppa Inglese
because I can't find a liqueur by that name here.
here is a recipe. I've never done it. I buy it because it is very cheap!
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http://www.agriturismoitaly.it/cucina/liquori.htm
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A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
In French we call the egg cream "crème anglaise".
yes, thank you. They have told me!
Cheers
Pandora
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Nathalie
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Wayne Boatwright
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28 September 2005, 12:04 UTC #17

On Wed 28 Sep 2005 04:11:44a, Nathalie Chiva wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:50:31 +0200, "Pandora" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
What is alchermes made of exactly ? I've never made Zuppa Inglese
because I can't find a liqueur by that name here.
Quoted message said:
A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
In French we call the egg cream "crème anglaise".
Nathalie
I found this recipe for alchermes:
Alchermes
Ingredients:
1/2 (half) a litre of 90 proof alcohol
2 pounds of sugar
1/2 (half) a stick of vanila
15 grams of cinnamon
10 grams of coriander
10 grams of cordamom
2 cloves
5 grams anice
100 gram rose water
Special note: spice descriptions can be found here
Description:
1. Crush together the vanila, cinnamon, coriander, cloves, cardamom and
anice.
2. Add in a bottle 1/2 a litre of alcohol (90 proof) and a cup of water.
3. Seal the bottle tightly and shake it briefly twice a day for two weeks.
4. Melt 2 pounds of sugar with 1 cup of cold water then add it to the
preparation (bottle).
5. Shake it well and let it rest for two days.
6. Filter it properly and add the 100 grams of rose water.
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Nathalie Chiva
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28 September 2005, 13:21 UTC #18

Wayne Boatwright said:
I found this recipe for alchermes:

<snip>
Thanks ! I'll see if I can get someone to bring me back some from
Italy, otherwise I'll try and make it...
Nathalie in Switzerland

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28 September 2005, 14:20 UTC #19

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Wed 28 Sep 2005 04:11:44a, Nathalie Chiva wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:50:31 +0200, "Pandora" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
The recipe I will give you is with Pan di Spagna, liqueur (alchermes),
chocolate, cream and whipped cream.
What is alchermes made of exactly ? I've never made Zuppa Inglese
because I can't find a liqueur by that name here.
Quoted message said:
A question: if whipped cream is "cream", how do you call the Cream (the
yellow one made with eggs). How can one distinguish them in a recipe??
In French we call the egg cream "crème anglaise".
Nathalie
I found this recipe for alchermes:
Alchermes
Ingredients:
1/2 (half) a litre of 90 proof alcohol
2 pounds of sugar
1/2 (half) a stick of vanila
15 grams of cinnamon
10 grams of coriander
10 grams of cordamom
2 cloves
5 grams anice
100 gram rose water
Special note: spice descriptions can be found here
Description:
1. Crush together the vanila, cinnamon, coriander, cloves, cardamom and
anice.
2. Add in a bottle 1/2 a litre of alcohol (90 proof) and a cup of water.
3. Seal the bottle tightly and shake it briefly twice a day for two weeks.
4. Melt 2 pounds of sugar with 1 cup of cold water then add it to the
preparation (bottle).
5. Shake it well and let it rest for two days.
6. Filter it properly and add the 100 grams of rose water.
In this recipe I don't see the "cocciniglia" (cochineal) which gives the red
colour to the liqueur!!! It is very important ingredient!
Pandora

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Nathalie Chiva
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28 September 2005, 14:40 UTC #20

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:20:49 +0200, "Pandora" <[email hidden]>
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In this recipe I don't see the "cocciniglia" (cochineal) which gives the red
colour to the liqueur!!! It is very important ingredient!
Well, it may be important for the appearance, but not for the taste.
Nathalie in Switzerland, as long as it tastes good, it looks good....

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