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[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <[email protected]>,
Mark Hickey <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Mark Hickey wrote:
>
> >> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos
> >> >>> /nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images/f
> >> >>> otos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=
> >> >>> 1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos
> >> >>> /nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.
> >>
> >> I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
> >> keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
> >> "John Wayne style"). ;-)
> >
> >Having owner several lowracers and ridden a few more, contact between
> >the chain and the rider's leg will not be an issue, unless the rider
> >has very fat legs. In that case, he/she is not likely to be riding a
> >high performance bike.
>
> I'm truly curious about this though - I know on my own wedgie bikes,
> my knees pass within an inch or so of the top tube. If I assume that
> I don't automatically go all bow-legged when riding a 'bent, I'd
> assume that the when my knees passed across the upper chainline/pulley
> on the 'bent in the photos above, that they'd be similarly close to
> the bike's centerline (something around two inches / 5cm or less).
> Clearly the chain is further from the bike's centerline than that - I
> suspect that the tube itself is wider than that - add at least a
> couple more inches for the idler pulley and chain, and I simply don't
> see why I wouldn't be smacking some part of my leg on the drivetrain
> regularly.
>
> What am I missing?

I suspect there's two easy answers here:

1) despite what you may think, your knee never goes near the chain (or
that top idler pulley). It traces a circle within the triangle made by
the chain run, and that circle may not even cover the frame tube. Note
that the seat is really low: your leg definitely on a strongly upward
line. Indeed, this bike seems to have a high "bottom" bracket even by
lowracer standards. Hm...I checked a few, this seems fairly typical of
lowracer designs.

2) the Q factor could just be really bad, fixing all the clearance
problems.

I think a more serious concern is whether this vehicle (human powered)
might inspire more bad lowracer epic poems:

http://32go.us/pow/lowracer.htm

Please, no,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> [...]
> >> Yes, it is an interesting bike, but it is all about going fast. You and I
> >> are both too old for those kind of bikes. Stick with RANS!
> >
> > Except for "Young Monkey", I believe I am younger than any of the
> > "Monkey Island" ride regulars.
>
> Tom, if you are over 40, you are old. Get used to the idea. When you are my
> age, you can then consider yourself ancient and just barely of this world.

Hmmm..., I just got carded buying Goose Island Nut Brown Ale. Mmmm,
Beer.

--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> [...]
>> >> Yes, it is an interesting bike, but it is all about going fast. You
>> >> and I
>> >> are both too old for those kind of bikes. Stick with RANS!
>> >
>> > Except for "Young Monkey", I believe I am younger than any of the
>> > "Monkey Island" ride regulars.
>>
>> Tom, if you are over 40, you are old. Get used to the idea. When you are
>> my
>> age, you can then consider yourself ancient and just barely of this
>> world.
>
> Hmmm..., I just got carded buying Goose Island Nut Brown Ale. Mmmm,
> Beer.

Wal-Mart cards everyone regardless of age. It is what is known as being
politically correct. It does make us old fellows feel good for about a
second though.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota