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[Edward Dolan]

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> Yes, it is an interesting bike, but it is all about going fast. You and I
>> are both too old for those kind of bikes. Stick with RANS!
>
> Except for "Young Monkey", I believe I am younger than any of the
> "Monkey Island" ride regulars.

Tom, if you are over 40, you are old. Get used to the idea. When you are my
age, you can then consider yourself ancient and just barely of this world.

I grow old . I grow old .
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

T.S.Eliot - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

I have to laugh at how some numskulls think they are still middle age when
they are pushing 70. I wonder at how long they are planning to live? The
first thing I look at when I get the newspaper in the morning are the obits.
Hells Bells, everyone is dying in their 70s and very many are dying long
before that.

Grim Reaper, I, who am about to die, salute you!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[M. Bakunin]

In article <[email protected]>,
"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Once you become high and mighty like the Great Ed Dolan, you will know that
> you have arrived at the summit of human experience. I hardly ever notice the
> hoi polloi anymore my nose is stuck up so high

what a great recipe! stick your head in your ass and keep pushing as
hard as you can.

--
€€€ USA, THE MOST TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED PLUTOCRACY €€€

 

[Bill Baka]

R Brickston wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:58:31 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> "n5hsr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Wonder what Ed would have thought of 1924 era QST-ese?
>>>>>
>>>>> HW WX? WET HR. ANT MFJ-1621. RIG 706G MK2 DE N5HSR K
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>>> I once knew some ham radio operators when I was a kid. They were heavily
>>>> into this kind of gobbledygook and most of them knew Morse code too. I
>>>> thought it was all a waste of time and energy, especially after I learned
>>>> what they were talking about to one another. Yes, these were grown men but
>>>> they were acting more like kids. I think they were mainly just fascinated by
>>>> the technology that made it possible to talk to someone on the other side of
>>>> the world, even though they never had one damn thing to say to one another....
>>> Like Ed Dolan is fascinated by the ability to post messages to Usenet?
>>>
>> Another 2 points.
>>
>> Ed is kind of like CBer's who will talk all night with the mike in one
>> hand and a beer in the other or until one of them passes out on the
>> transmit button. I have listened in on one of my shortwave sets once in
>> a while and it is kind of like male gossip, only not two women talking
>> over a fence.
>> 10-4
>> Bill Baka
>
> idiot....

I figured that would be your highest possible intellectual response.
You just confirmed what people are saying.
Hah!
Bill Baka

 

[Bill Baka]

n5hsr wrote:
>
> 80 Meters and 20 meters is two reasons it took me so long to get my Extra
> class license. I was happy as a hog in mud on 2 meters.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg.
>
>
Yeah,
But you can only talk about 30 miles unless you can use repeaters.
80 is great at night and 20 is a little on the high side for daytime
long distance unless you are using narrow band Morse.
At least when you do contact someone who knows how to use a Ham radio
you know there is some intelligence there.
Bill Baka

 

[R Brickston]

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:10:55 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:58:31 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>> "n5hsr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Wonder what Ed would have thought of 1924 era QST-ese?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HW WX? WET HR. ANT MFJ-1621. RIG 706G MK2 DE N5HSR K
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>>>> I once knew some ham radio operators when I was a kid. They were heavily
>>>>> into this kind of gobbledygook and most of them knew Morse code too. I
>>>>> thought it was all a waste of time and energy, especially after I learned
>>>>> what they were talking about to one another. Yes, these were grown men but
>>>>> they were acting more like kids. I think they were mainly just fascinated by
>>>>> the technology that made it possible to talk to someone on the other side of
>>>>> the world, even though they never had one damn thing to say to one another....
>>>> Like Ed Dolan is fascinated by the ability to post messages to Usenet?
>>>>
>>> Another 2 points.
>>>
>>> Ed is kind of like CBer's who will talk all night with the mike in one
>>> hand and a beer in the other or until one of them passes out on the
>>> transmit button. I have listened in on one of my shortwave sets once in
>>> a while and it is kind of like male gossip, only not two women talking
>>> over a fence.
>>> 10-4
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> idiot....
>
>I figured that would be your highest possible intellectual response.
>You just confirmed what people are saying.
>Hah!
>Bill Baka

Little Billy, you are the biggest Doofus on usenet.

 

[Mark Hickey]

Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>n5hsr wrote:
>>
>> 80 Meters and 20 meters is two reasons it took me so long to get my Extra
>> class license. I was happy as a hog in mud on 2 meters.

>But you can only talk about 30 miles unless you can use repeaters.

Yeah, but every once in a while... things get odd. That's what I
liked about 10 meters - you culd be twisting the dial through nothing
but white noise, and come across a lone 5-9-9 signal from half-way
around the world. It could vanish as fast as it appeared, but I
logged some really enjoyable time chasing those "tunnel propagation"
contacts.

>80 is great at night and 20 is a little on the high side for daytime
>long distance unless you are using narrow band Morse.

The cool thing is you get to have a bigger antenna than anyone else (I
had a triband quad - you could turn it on its side, cover it and live
in it easily).

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

 

[Bill Baka]

Mark Hickey wrote:
> Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> n5hsr wrote:
>>> 80 Meters and 20 meters is two reasons it took me so long to get my Extra
>>> class license. I was happy as a hog in mud on 2 meters.
>
>> But you can only talk about 30 miles unless you can use repeaters.
>
> Yeah, but every once in a while... things get odd. That's what I
> liked about 10 meters - you culd be twisting the dial through nothing
> but white noise, and come across a lone 5-9-9 signal from half-way
> around the world. It could vanish as fast as it appeared, but I
> logged some really enjoyable time chasing those "tunnel propagation"
> contacts.

Every 11 years the sun goes through a sunspot activity cycle and causes
sporadic 'E' that makes for some fantastic skips. I remember being in
California and talking on a CB to a guy in Jamaica, no less. Back in
1962 I had a giant tv antenna with a rotator and amplifier and from
Chicago got Miami on channel 2 (54MHz) for about 5 minutes then, ****,
it was gone.
Damn, now I might stop riding and go string up a huge antenna again.
I could go from Bill the cyclist to Bill the fat radio guy.
At least I wouldn't get flat tires, just a big electric bill with all
those tubes for night lights.

This did bring up one bike related idea though. I have a small, cheap,
never used Radio Shack CB and portable antenna that I could take on my
mountain rides where I am out of cell phone range. All I would need is a
small motorcycle battery and I would be able to call out of the
mountains if the bike or (heaven forbid) I broke. Would that count as a
really Fred idea or a good safety precaution since I sometimes go as
much as 30 miles past where a car could get?
Bill Baka
>
>> 80 is great at night and 20 is a little on the high side for daytime
>> long distance unless you are using narrow band Morse.
>
> The cool thing is you get to have a bigger antenna than anyone else (I
> had a triband quad - you could turn it on its side, cover it and live
> in it easily).
>
> Mark Hickey
> Habanero Cycles
> http://www.habcycles.com
> Home of the $795 ti frame

 

[n5hsr]

"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Hickey wrote:
>> Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> n5hsr wrote:
>>>> 80 Meters and 20 meters is two reasons it took me so long to get my
>>>> Extra class license. I was happy as a hog in mud on 2 meters.
>>
>>> But you can only talk about 30 miles unless you can use repeaters.
>>
>> Yeah, but every once in a while... things get odd. That's what I
>> liked about 10 meters - you culd be twisting the dial through nothing
>> but white noise, and come across a lone 5-9-9 signal from half-way
>> around the world. It could vanish as fast as it appeared, but I
>> logged some really enjoyable time chasing those "tunnel propagation"
>> contacts.
>
> Every 11 years the sun goes through a sunspot activity cycle and causes
> sporadic 'E' that makes for some fantastic skips. I remember being in
> California and talking on a CB to a guy in Jamaica, no less. Back in 1962
> I had a giant tv antenna with a rotator and amplifier and from Chicago got
> Miami on channel 2 (54MHz) for about 5 minutes then, ****, it was gone.
> Damn, now I might stop riding and go string up a huge antenna again.
> I could go from Bill the cyclist to Bill the fat radio guy.
> At least I wouldn't get flat tires, just a big electric bill with all
> those tubes for night lights.
>
> This did bring up one bike related idea though. I have a small, cheap,
> never used Radio Shack CB and portable antenna that I could take on my
> mountain rides where I am out of cell phone range. All I would need is a
> small motorcycle battery and I would be able to call out of the mountains
> if the bike or (heaven forbid) I broke. Would that count as a really Fred
> idea or a good safety precaution since I sometimes go as much as 30 miles
> past where a car could get?
> Bill Baka
>>
>>> 80 is great at night and 20 is a little on the high side for daytime
>>> long distance unless you are using narrow band Morse.
>>
>> The cool thing is you get to have a bigger antenna than anyone else (I
>> had a triband quad - you could turn it on its side, cover it and live
>> in it easily).
>>
>> Mark Hickey
>> Habanero Cycles
>> http://www.habcycles.com
>> Home of the $795 ti frame

Since I'm stuck in an apartment, I'm using an MFJ-1621 for an antenna right
now. But I can hear some interesting stuff.

Charles of Schaumburg

 

[Bill Baka]

n5hsr wrote:
>
> Since I'm stuck in an apartment, I'm using an MFJ-1621 for an antenna right
> now. But I can hear some interesting stuff.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>
>
Apartment,
Ouch.
That's why I live in the country and probably why I can't relate to some
of the city riding stories. I'm too far out.
Bill Baka

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

Bill Baka wrote:
> ...I'm too far out.

No comment. [rimshot]

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain

 

[n5hsr]

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> ...I'm too far out.
>
> No comment. [rimshot]
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
>

Oh, so I'm what you would call an FIB?

Charles of Schaumburg

 

[Edward Dolan]

"M. Bakunin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Once you become high and mighty like the Great Ed Dolan, you will know
>> that
>> you have arrived at the summit of human experience. I hardly ever notice
>> the
>> hoi polloi anymore my nose is stuck up so high
>
> what a great recipe! stick your head in your ass and keep pushing as
> hard as you can.

I leave the above mentioned activity to the likes of anarchists like M.
Bakunin. Hell Bells, his head has been up his ass his entire life most
likely - which is why he is an anarchist.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Bill Baka]

n5hsr wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>> ...I'm too far out.
>> No comment. [rimshot]
>>
>> --
>> Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
>>
>
> Oh, so I'm what you would call an FIB?
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>
>
Maybe Tom Sherman never gets out of town. "Stay inside the box.".
Apparently he is too much a conformist, which I hope is never said about
me. If I had the money (lots of it) I would attempt to hike Mt. Everest,
then you would see some picture links on here. I would probably never
make the top, though. I am good at high altitude, but not that good.
Bill Baka

P.S. I would not try to ride my mountain bike down, so no silly comments
please.

 

[R Brickston]

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:30:04 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>n5hsr wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> ...I'm too far out.
>>> No comment. [rimshot]
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
>>>
>>
>> Oh, so I'm what you would call an FIB?
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>
>>
>Maybe Tom Sherman never gets out of town. "Stay inside the box.".

And Billy never gets off of Planet Baka.

>Apparently he is too much a conformist, which I hope is never said about
>me. If I had the money (lots of it) I would attempt to hike Mt. Everest,
>then you would see some picture links on here.

You have a Mt. Everest on Planet Baka? I'm not surprised. What's the
elevation, 200 feet?

>I would probably never
>make the top, though. I am good at high altitude, but not that good.
>Bill Baka
>
>P.S. I would not try to ride my mountain bike down, so no silly comments
>please.

Of course not, Billy... the silly comments are your responsibility.

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

n5hsr wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Bill Baka wrote:
> >> ...I'm too far out.
> >
> > No comment. [rimshot]
> >
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
> >
>
> Oh, so I'm what you would call an FIB?

Roast FIB is a Wisconsin specialty.

Having lived for a total of more than 19 years in Illinois, I have
earned the right to make FIB jokes.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

Bill Baka wrote:
> n5hsr wrote:
> > "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Bill Baka wrote:
> >>> ...I'm too far out.
> >> No comment. [rimshot]
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
> >>
> >
> > Oh, so I'm what you would call an FIB?
> >
> > Charles of Schaumburg
> >
> >
> Maybe Tom Sherman never gets out of town. "Stay inside the box.".
> Apparently he is too much a conformist, which I hope is never said about
> me....

What the heck are you talking about and how do you draw your (way off
the truth) conclusions?

My comment was just a joke - don't read anything more into it.

As Bill Sornson might write, "WHOOSH!"

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

[email protected] TOP POSTED:
> Thanks! Now I need a new keyboard - I just slobbered all over it.

I did warn you about that.

> Unfortunately, one can only guess at the prices. Fortunately, dreaming
> is free!
Challenge's production lowracer starts at about $2,700 USD:
<http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/inhoud/jester/jester-groot.jpg&size=640&type=2&quality=87>.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain

 

[Mark Hickey]

Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:

>>> Check out these images (careful not to drool on your keyboard):
>>>
>>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,
>>>
>>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images%2Ffotos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,
>>>
>>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.

>That bent looks almost like a piece of art to be hung in a museum. It
>also looks almost too comfortable, like I might doze off in bliss while
>riding.

I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
"John Wayne style"). ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

Mark Hickey wrote:
> Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
>
> >>> Check out these images (careful not to drool on your keyboard):
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images%2Ffotos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.
>
> >That bent looks almost like a piece of art to be hung in a museum. It
> >also looks almost too comfortable, like I might doze off in bliss while
> >riding.
>
> I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
> keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
> "John Wayne style"). ;-)

Having owner several lowracers and ridden a few more, contact between
the chain and the rider's leg will not be an issue, unless the rider
has very fat legs. In that case, he/she is not likely to be riding a
high performance bike.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain

 

[Mark Hickey]

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Mark Hickey wrote:

>> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,
>> >>>
>> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images%2Ffotos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,
>> >>>
>> >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.
>>
>> I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
>> keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
>> "John Wayne style"). ;-)
>
>Having owner several lowracers and ridden a few more, contact between
>the chain and the rider's leg will not be an issue, unless the rider
>has very fat legs. In that case, he/she is not likely to be riding a
>high performance bike.

I'm truly curious about this though - I know on my own wedgie bikes,
my knees pass within an inch or so of the top tube. If I assume that
I don't automatically go all bow-legged when riding a 'bent, I'd
assume that the when my knees passed across the upper chainline/pulley
on the 'bent in the photos above, that they'd be similarly close to
the bike's centerline (something around two inches / 5cm or less).
Clearly the chain is further from the bike's centerline than that - I
suspect that the tube itself is wider than that - add at least a
couple more inches for the idler pulley and chain, and I simply don't
see why I wouldn't be smacking some part of my leg on the drivetrain
regularly.

What am I missing?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame