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What absolute nonsense. But at least you are consistent. If there was such a surge you would be able to measure it with ANY power meter.

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Originally Posted by fergie
What absolute nonsense. But at least you are consistent. If there was such a surge you would be able to measure it with ANY power meter.

Consistent is the word alright as is the extra power that can be produced with this technique. Would you be able to get my ' log in ' problem sorted out on Cyclingnews forum. There seems to be some confusion about e-mail addresses and I can't get in contact with them.

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Originally Posted by n crowley

There is a lot of support for your "claims." Rotating the hips seems to produce measurable power increases.

But there is also lots of support for not needing to change how one pedals. For most the big muscles are not a limiting factor.

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It is fairly easy to detemine if the smaller muscles are effective. Rig up a device that uses those muscles and measure the amount of work done. It need not be a bicycle power meter.

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Originally Posted by An old Guy

There is a lot of support for your "claims." Rotating the hips seems to produce measurable power increases.

But there is also lots of support for not needing to change how one pedals. For most the big muscles are not a limiting factor.

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It is fairly easy to detemine if the smaller muscles are effective. Rig up a device that uses those muscles and measure the amount of work done. It need not be a bicycle power meter.

You don't change the way you pedal, you learn another way of pedalling that is more suitable for flat time trials where interrupted constant high gear power can be used.. The natural mashing style is best for road racing but it is very inefficient and this makes it unsuitable for flat TT's or track pursuit events. You don't need to rig up a device to test the effectiveness of the smaller muscles because this technique over the top and down through 1 and 2 o'c uses the identical combination of muscles as those used by indoor Tug o'war competitors as they try to force themselves in a backward direction on the mat. A cyclist only needs a fraction of the possible force each of these competitors can generate and all of it will be fully tangential through 12 1 and 2 o'c.

Trolls debating trolls, how amusing.

However, if there is an improvement in power delivery to the pedal from any technique that is better than another ANY power meter will be able to measure it.

Yeah, flat TT big gear mashing doesn't work. 58x11 being smashed at 85 rpm is just not the way to do it. Tony Martin looks like he's been schooled by Mr Crowley.

A lesson in time trialing Tony Martin style...

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swampy1970 said:

A lesson in time trialing Tony Martin style...

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Video link doesn't seem to be working anymore. Here is another one;

swampy1970 said:

Yeah, flat TT big gear mashing doesn't work. 58x11 being smashed at 85 rpm is just not the way to do it. Tony Martin looks like he's been schooled by Mr Crowley.

Nope, his legs are idling at TDC.

ambal said:

Video link doesn't seem to be working anymore. Here is another one;

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n crowley said:

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... and your point is what?

Alf has Anquetil beat in terms of aero: