"Ted Bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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According to Qui si parla Campagnolo <[email hidden]>:
>Park does make good consoumer tools, I think their shop level stuff is >a little weak and I really don't care for their 'politics', don't think >it belongs in the market.
Could you elaborate on Park's politics? I'm in the dark.
---- Lars Lehtonen
Picture a Christian version of the Taliban. Gays should be either "fixed" or shunned, man is the head of the household, no abortion, no stem cell research, no sex except for procreation, denial of evolution, etc.
-- Ted Bennett
And this has what to do with the quality of the tools they produce?
Ken
Nothing at all, and I didn't say that it did. I own some Park tools, and would buy more.
Could you elaborate on Park's politics? I'm in the dark.
---- Lars Lehtonen
Picture a Christian version of the Taliban. Gays should be either "fixed" or shunned, man is the head of the household, no abortion, no stem cell research, no sex except for procreation, denial of evolution, etc.
I see the little "Rest of the Story" blurb on the bottom of their "About Us" page, but that doesn't seem like anything extreme, just a mention of their Christian beliefs.
Where'd you read about those extremist views? I couldn't google anything about it...
I had the same experience researching this. I couldn't identify the basis for it.
I am not hypersensitive to criticism of Christians, but I do like to try to help bridge misunderstandings, when I can.
"Klaus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Ken wrote: <<SNIP>>
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> Could you elaborate on Park's politics? I'm in the dark. > > ---- > Lars Lehtonen
Picture a Christian version of the Taliban. Gays should be either "fixed" or shunned, man is the head of the household, no abortion, no stem cell research, no sex except for procreation, denial of evolution, etc.
-- Ted Bennett
And this has what to do with the quality of the tools they produce?
Ken
Ken,
Every day, people make what an economist would call "irrational" purchasing decisions.
For instance, I know of a few Christians (and others) who choose not to purchase goods from China. This is because they have evaluated enough evidence to convince them that China is utilizing slave labor.
Not every aspect of a purchasing decision is based upon perceived quality, utility, and price.
I think Ted (and others) was just supplementing the information for the broader aspects of your decision, in the same way someone else might ask you, "Ken, are you aware of the misery that is upstream from that $5 Chinese golf shirt you are about to buy?"
You can make an *informed* purchase decision without it being a *rational* one.
As far as Park tools are concerned, I have used a few of their products. Every model I have used was of sufficient quality, utility, and value to satisfy my needs.
rsquared
Personally if the price is right and quality is in line with the price I don't care if some Chinese kid is getting paid 12 cents an hour to sew my shirts together!
That little CT-5 is pretty clearly designed for emergency use only (despite what Park says). I have one and treat it as such. It's been used a few times and works fine.
I have a CT-5 as my only chain tool, so I have used it a few more times than that over the 5 years or so I've had it. Like you, I mostly only use it to shorten chains before installing a quick link. I'm impressed with the quality, it seems much more precise than the Rivoli that I had before. Having destroyed it and a couple of other chain tools, I, again like you, learned to be more careful.
I like that the Park will push the pin out the perfect amount then stop.
I find that the blue plastic tire levers that Park makes are really poor. The levers are too thick, and are made from a really slippery plastic. They are aggravating to use. I just can't fathom why Park has been selling these awful things for so long. Another company makes a set of three black plastic levers that are stored inside a thin red case. These work very well for me. I think they are made in the Netherlands.
gnaw. see DIY tire removal in tech archives. the park spoonbills remove tight tube/tire combos. see the ledge? the ledge stops the tool after penetration soas yawl don't pinch the tube there are other exclusive and well thought out design features too complex to be described here. have you tried spraying the tire wall with prestone silicone lube available at k mart?
According to Qui si parla Campagnolo <[email hidden]>:
Quoted message said:
Park does make good consoumer tools, I think their shop level stuff is a little weak and I really don't care for their 'politics', don't think it belongs in the market.
Could you elaborate on Park's politics? I'm in the dark.
---- Lars Lehtonen
Picture a Christian version of the Taliban. Gays should be either "fixed" or shunned, man is the head of the household, no abortion, no stem cell research, no sex except for procreation, denial of evolution, etc.
I hadn't noticed that "about us" page previously. While I didn't see evidence of the degree of extreme view on their site that you describe, their overtly Christian expression has no commercial validity. My long experience with companies who try to trade on something other than their own product's inherent qualities has been that it is generally best to seek a different source.
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gnaw. see DIY tire removal in tech archives. the park spoonbills remove tight tube/tire combos. see the ledge? the ledge stops the tool after penetration soas yawl don't pinch the tube there are other exclusive and well thought out design features too complex to be described here. have you tried spraying the tire wall with prestone silicone lube available at k mart?
Having worked in my father's auto service station many years and therefore being good slave labor, I did all the crappy jobs, including operating an old-fashioned tire machine (purely mechanical, no pneumatics, hydraulics ...). I learned right away how to use the can with the brush nearby, with dish washing detergent solution.
highcoupe! whilst workong ponderong pattern interrogatories by danner addressing-applying his opening 11 qualifications to my 250 pages of material IT SUDDENLY DAWNED UPON ME!! that the pin shaft-carrier body loosennesses allows the chain pin itself to find its own way out and not be forced by and pressure/fixity of direction implied by the perp chain tool this of course immediately raises the serious design question of implied liability to the manufacturer (an alleged fascist) for not supplying an auxialary tool to hold the expletive deleted driving out chain tool pin in the immediate vicinty of the work area. we apologize. maybe
the answer is-drill a small hole into the chain tool's surface below and to the right of the pin's passage to the alleged target-the chain pin surface. insert [censored]! pry chain tool pin off outside chain link over to the pin surface!
