Paramo jacket final review

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My new paramo had been well tested in snow, cold and wind and passed
with flying colours, but it had never been tested in the rain until
saturday. A companion and I set out to do Beinn a' Chlachair, Geal Charn
and Creag Pitridh. When we parked at the usual laybye near Loch Laggan
it was raining, when we returned seven hours later it was still raining.
Sometimes the rain came gently, sometimes it was driven by gale force
winds. On the summit of Beinn a' Chlachair the rain became driven sleet
and snow. Navigation was very exciting! When we sorted ourself out at
the car I was bone dry under my jacket. Not even any condensation.
Dennis who was in traditional fleecy and goretex was soaked to the skin.
Now a Paramo convert and planning to buy the trousers next.

Did you wear a fleece underneath your Paramo or something else ?

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Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

I've been wearing Paramo all winter. All I've worn under the jacket has been
a Merino wool icebreaker. This has been plenty warm enough for the high
fells of Lakes/Snowdonia. Allways been warm and dry. Yesterday I went high
in Lakeland, but wore a "Lifa" type top thinking that the merino was too
thick. Came back quite wet under the jacket. Won't make that mistake again.

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"Leonard Trim" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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My new paramo had been well tested in snow, cold and wind and passed
with flying colours, but it had never been tested in the rain until
saturday. A companion and I set out to do Beinn a' Chlachair, Geal Charn
and Creag Pitridh. When we parked at the usual laybye near Loch Laggan
it was raining, when we returned seven hours later it was still raining.
Sometimes the rain came gently, sometimes it was driven by gale force
winds. On the summit of Beinn a' Chlachair the rain became driven sleet
and snow. Navigation was very exciting! When we sorted ourself out at
the car I was bone dry under my jacket. Not even any condensation.
Dennis who was in traditional fleecy and goretex was soaked to the skin.
Now a Paramo convert and planning to buy the trousers next.

Did you wear a fleece underneath your Paramo or something else ?

--
Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

The Mad March Hare said:

I've been wearing Paramo all winter. All I've worn under the jacket has been
a Merino wool icebreaker. This has been plenty warm enough for the high
fells of Lakes/Snowdonia. Allways been warm and dry. Yesterday I went high
in Lakeland, but wore a "Lifa" type top thinking that the merino was too
thick. Came back quite wet under the jacket. Won't make that mistake again.

Even in this it seems people differ. I bought a Velez Smock recently
and I've used it on very cold weekends in Scotland and Snowdonia. On
both occasions I wore a merino wool baselayer, plus a Montane Krypton
hoody (microfleece liner, Pertex outer). In Scotland, where that's all
I had, I was absolutely frozen in my Paramo top - the new, lighter
version. I therefore bought a Primaloft jacket to put on top in very
cold conditions, and I needed it this weekend in Snowdonia, when I was
again very cold in merino wool, Montane hoody & Paramo smock. With the
Primaloft jacket on top, I was finally warm. That's a baselayer and
three other layers, including Paramo.

I don't normally run particularly cold. I suspect there's a big
difference between the original Paramo and the new, lighter one. I
don't have a similar problem with my old-style Cascada trousers, which
keep my legs dry and warm enough.

Best wishes,
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Did you wear a fleece underneath your Paramo or something else ?

All I wore under the Paramo was their long sleeved T-shirt. The only
time I was the slightest bit cold was the five minutes at the first
cairn having my coffee and rolls. The T-shirt itself is a revelation.
Amply warm enough by itself on a good day such as my trip along Aonach
Eagach last month.
Suspect the only time I would need to wear three layers would be if I
went back to the winter climbing. All that standing around in frozen
belays would probably mean the Paramo shirt was needed as well as
T-shirt and jacket.

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Len Trim
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I think Paramo jackets are superb. I have an Alta II which is awesome in
driving rain. I also have Velez which I tend to use in warmer weather. The
Cascada trousers are great although the men's version seems to be cut rather
strange! At Easter I bought a pair of Paramo Stretch Pants (about the only
thing of theirs I didn't own. These are superb - the best general purpose
walking trousers that I have had for years. Has anyone else owned a pair of
these?

---
Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK

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Leonard Trim wrote

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Now a Paramo convert and planning to buy the trousers next.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Good set of hills. Long walk in, mind. Very very easy ascent.

Chris