[OT] Stranded Woman Saved By GPS



Following up to John Laird

>It is a "smooth" looking car, which makes it all the more surprising (it
>being generally better to sweep pedestrians off their feet and let them
>tumble over without encountering hard edges,

Yes, that's what I thought.
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Following up to Rooney

>One other point is that I seldom see the larger 4x4s tearing around
>like boy racers - people tend to drive them a bit more sedately ime.

I've driven a lot of 4x4s, they don't lend themselves to boy
racing!
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:26:16 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to Rooney
>
>>One other point is that I seldom see the larger 4x4s tearing around
>>like boy racers - people tend to drive them a bit more sedately ime.
>
>I've driven a lot of 4x4s, they don't lend themselves to boy
>racing!

No - they induce a calm sense of superiority.
And I've just been looking down at a woman in an Espace in the Asda
car park. I'm sure she thought I was trying to look down her cleavage.

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"John Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:33:18 -0000, "Nick Pedley"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >BTW, I let BBC Watchdog know of the ripoff Tesco tried to pull and am
just
> >waiting for their reply...
>
> This snippet appeared somewhat out of context. Did I miss something, and
> should I be unduly concerned ? (I'd rate all insurers about an average 2
> out of 10 on the honesty scale, just want to watch out for those who get
nil
> points ! Tesco were absolutely fine when I had my car broken into,
> temporary hire car, new radio, door fixed, all with no hassles.)
>
It was with their breakdown cover I had with the insurance. They wanted £114
even though I could buy it for £79 in store or over the phone at the
standard price.

Nick
 
Following up to Rooney

>And I've just been looking down at a woman in an Espace in the Asda
>car park. I'm sure she thought I was trying to look down her cleavage.

My money's on that two, I mean too.
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Rooney <[email protected]> writes

>No - they induce a calm sense of superiority.
>And I've just been looking down at a woman in an Espace in the Asda
>car park. I'm sure she thought I was trying to look down her cleavage.
>
OMG! You shop at ASDA?
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"Rooney" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:05:08 GMT, [email protected] (RJ Webb) wrote:
>
>>
>>>You're all too stoned to drive!
>>>
>>
>>Its not just your signiture that is irritating. This is such a
>>friendly newsgroup. Can we keep it that way?
>>
>>Richard Webb
>
> I'm sure Theo is in tune with my comments. If he isn't, he can say so
> for himself.

My motto is "always look on the bright side of life". I can see humor in
Rooney's answer.
I just wonder how much freetime some people have.

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"Rooney" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:36:24 GMT, Colin MacDonald
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Rooney wrote:
>>> On 18 Mar 2005 13:55:18 GMT, Mark Thompson wrote
>>>>Just to be annoying:
>>>><URL:http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/Expodata/Spreadsheets/D7250.xls>
>>>>
>>>>Seems it'd be safer than walking for most people ;-)
>>>
>>> Have I misread that or are you about ten times safer in a car than you
>>> are on a bicycle?
>>
>>No, not really.
>>
>>The table shows deaths 'per billion passenger kilometres', which makes
>>it hard to compare.
>
> <snip interesting stuff>
>
> But aren't all these comparisons done per mile (or km, or billion km -
> makes no difference)? Eg. air and car, etc?
>
> Surely that makes it easier to compare: I'm going to the village, a
> journey of two miles, whether I walk or bike or drive. What's safest?
> It looks to me like, *per given journey*, the car is 10 times safer
> than the bike?

If two walkers collide at normal walking speed there's not much damage. If
two cars collide at normal driving speed there's more damage. If a car
collides with a walker the walker is more damaged then the car.

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:54:15 -0000, "Nick Pedley"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:33:18 -0000, "Nick Pedley"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >BTW, I let BBC Watchdog know of the ripoff Tesco tried to pull and am
>just
>> >waiting for their reply...
>>
>> This snippet appeared somewhat out of context. Did I miss something, and
>> should I be unduly concerned ? (I'd rate all insurers about an average 2
>> out of 10 on the honesty scale, just want to watch out for those who get
>nil
>> points ! Tesco were absolutely fine when I had my car broken into,
>> temporary hire car, new radio, door fixed, all with no hassles.)
>>
>It was with their breakdown cover I had with the insurance. They wanted £114
>even though I could buy it for £79 in store or over the phone at the
>standard price.

Thanks for the explanation. I'll not worry myself to death over it...

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Mail john rather than nospam...
 
Rooney <[email protected]> writes:

>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:36:24 GMT, Colin MacDonald
><[email protected]> wrote:

>>Rooney wrote:
>>> On 18 Mar 2005 13:55:18 GMT, Mark Thompson wrote
>>>>Just to be annoying:
>>>><URL:http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/Expodata/Spreadsheets/D7250.xls>
>>>>
>>>>Seems it'd be safer than walking for most people ;-)
>>>
>>> Have I misread that or are you about ten times safer in a car than you
>>> are on a bicycle?
>>
>>No, not really.
>>
>>The table shows deaths 'per billion passenger kilometres', which makes
>>it hard to compare.

><snip interesting stuff>

>But aren't all these comparisons done per mile (or km, or billion km -
>makes no difference)? Eg. air and car, etc?

>Surely that makes it easier to compare: I'm going to the village, a
>journey of two miles, whether I walk or bike or drive. What's safest?
>It looks to me like, *per given journey*, the car is 10 times safer
>than the bike?

But the averages aren't comparable, because they are taken over a
different mix of road conditions. For example, the car average
probably includes some motorway miles, which are particularly safe per
mile.
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Rooney <[email protected]> writes:

>That's why you have to compare the per mile (or whatever) figures.
>What I'm interested in is this: is it safer to make this journey by
>bike? The answer appears to be a resounding No!

But the miles aren't comparable, and the drivers/riders aren't
comparable, so you can't draw a conclusion about *you* doing *this*
journey.

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"Chris Malcolm" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
>
>>But aren't all these comparisons done per mile (or km, or billion km -
>>makes no difference)? Eg. air and car, etc?
>
>>Surely that makes it easier to compare: I'm going to the village, a
>>journey of two miles, whether I walk or bike or drive. What's safest?
>>It looks to me like, *per given journey*, the car is 10 times safer
>>than the bike?
>
> But the averages aren't comparable, because they are taken over a
> different mix of road conditions. For example, the car average
> probably includes some motorway miles, which are particularly safe per
> mile.

Walking over Striding Edge is much safer than driving over ;-)

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:35:46 +0100, "theo" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Rooney" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:05:08 GMT, [email protected] (RJ Webb) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>You're all too stoned to drive!
>>>>
>>>
>>>Its not just your signiture that is irritating. This is such a
>>>friendly newsgroup. Can we keep it that way?
>>>
>>>Richard Webb
>>
>> I'm sure Theo is in tune with my comments. If he isn't, he can say so
>> for himself.
>
>My motto is "always look on the bright side of life". I can see humor in
>Rooney's answer.

Good man.

>I just wonder how much freetime some people have.

Loads, thanks to the internal combustion engine!

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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:33:43 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Chris
Malcolm) wrote:

>Rooney <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>That's why you have to compare the per mile (or whatever) figures.
>>What I'm interested in is this: is it safer to make this journey by
>>bike? The answer appears to be a resounding No!
>
>But the miles aren't comparable, and the drivers/riders aren't
>comparable, so you can't draw a conclusion about *you* doing *this*
>journey.

The miles will be the same ones whatever form of transport I use, and
so will the driver/rider.
Or do you mean the miles that the stats are based on? And if so,
what's the basis for saying you can't use these stats to make valid
comparisons?

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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:25:51 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Chris
Malcolm) wrote:

>Rooney <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:36:24 GMT, Colin MacDonald
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>Rooney wrote:
>>>> On 18 Mar 2005 13:55:18 GMT, Mark Thompson wrote
>>>>>Just to be annoying:
>>>>><URL:http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/Expodata/Spreadsheets/D7250.xls>
>>>>>
>>>>>Seems it'd be safer than walking for most people ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Have I misread that or are you about ten times safer in a car than you
>>>> are on a bicycle?
>>>
>>>No, not really.
>>>
>>>The table shows deaths 'per billion passenger kilometres', which makes
>>>it hard to compare.
>
>><snip interesting stuff>
>
>>But aren't all these comparisons done per mile (or km, or billion km -
>>makes no difference)? Eg. air and car, etc?
>
>>Surely that makes it easier to compare: I'm going to the village, a
>>journey of two miles, whether I walk or bike or drive. What's safest?
>>It looks to me like, *per given journey*, the car is 10 times safer
>>than the bike?
>
>But the averages aren't comparable, because they are taken over a
>different mix of road conditions. For example, the car average
>probably includes some motorway miles, which are particularly safe per
>mile.

I see what you mean: one of the reasons why driving is so very much
safer is that some of it is done on safer roads. Fair point.


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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:22:49 +0000, Gordon Harris
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Rooney <[email protected]> writes
>
>>No - they induce a calm sense of superiority.
>>And I've just been looking down at a woman in an Espace in the Asda
>>car park. I'm sure she thought I was trying to look down her cleavage.
>>
>OMG! You shop at ASDA?

Asda rules! You should see some of their wine bargains. Otoh, Tesco's
cream cakes are much nicer.

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I noticed that Message-ID: <[email protected]>
from Rooney contained the following:

>>OMG! You shop at ASDA?
>
>Asda rules! You should see some of their wine bargains. Otoh, Tesco's
>cream cakes are much nicer.

I shop at Morrisons. I would, it's only 200yds from my house.

Part of the neon sign was out once. It read Mor ons.

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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:52:03 +0000, Geoff Berrow
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I noticed that Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>from Rooney contained the following:
>
>>>OMG! You shop at ASDA?
>>
>>Asda rules! You should see some of their wine bargains. Otoh, Tesco's
>>cream cakes are much nicer.
>
>I shop at Morrisons. I would, it's only 200yds from my house.
>
>Part of the neon sign was out once. It read Mor ons.

That happened to my carrier bag - the kids started laughing at me and
pointed out that the way the folds lay made it read Morons.

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[email protected] said...
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:22:49 +0000, Gordon Harris
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Rooney <[email protected]> writes
> >
> >>No - they induce a calm sense of superiority.
> >>And I've just been looking down at a woman in an Espace in the Asda
> >>car park. I'm sure she thought I was trying to look down her cleavage.
> >>
> >OMG! You shop at ASDA?
>
> Asda rules! You should see some of their wine bargains. Otoh, Tesco's
> cream cakes are much nicer.
>
>
And Sainsbury's have better stuff all round. Woe is me for I
have not a Sainsbury's sufficiently local for it to be a
regular haunt. OTOH it's also more expensive, so the woe
shall henceforth be reduced. Wo is me for... etc.
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[email protected] said...
> If two walkers collide at normal walking speed there's not much damage. If
> two cars collide at normal driving speed there's more damage. If a car
> collides with a walker the walker is more damaged then the car.
>
OTOH for many walkers had it not been for their own cars they
wouldn't have got to where they were walking when they met the
original car that collided with them. I like having a car; I
would be lost without a car (as indeed I am at the moment); I
do not have the required public transport to get to where I
want to get to and even where it exists it does so at
prohibitive prices. HOORAY FOR THE CAR, say I. And if I
collide with one whilst walking chances are it will have been
my own stupid fault for not looking where I was going or for
otherwise not paying attention.

This started out with a lighthearted post about an only
vaguely walking related piece of kit. I doubt I'll bother in
future.
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