OT: Chuffed to bits

Jeremy Collins said:

Men also tend to put fat on the belly first (and therefore it's
the last and hardest place to shift it from). Unfortunately this
is also the most dangerous place to carry excess fat, which is
why fat blokes die younger than fat women.

What is it about the location of the fat store that makes it more or
less dangerous?

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dkahn400 said:

Jeremy Collins said:

Men also tend to put fat on the belly first (and therefore it's
the last and hardest place to shift it from). Unfortunately this
is also the most dangerous place to carry excess fat, which is
why fat blokes die younger than fat women.

What is it about the location of the fat store that makes it more or
less dangerous?

I don't know why. But, there was some recent research suggesting a
correlation between midriff fat deposits in men and heart attacks.

Colin

Mark Thompson <[email hidden]> wrote:

: In spite of being young, fittish and almost immune to weight gain I've not
: been able to shift my proto-beerbelly

Do you do core-strength exercises? Swiss balls are good for this. If you already
have a low body fat then you'll need to tone upthe stomach muscles for the
final bit.

Otherwise, cycle more, eat less.

Arthur

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dkahn400 said:

Jeremy Collins said:

Men also tend to put fat on the belly first (and therefore it's
the last and hardest place to shift it from). Unfortunately this
is also the most dangerous place to carry excess fat, which is
why fat blokes die younger than fat women.

What is it about the location of the fat store that makes it more or
less dangerous?

AIUI it leads to a fatty buildup around all those organs around the
midsection, inclusing the liver. Not a good thing, apparently.

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Jeremy Collins said:

dkahn400 wrote:

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What is it about the location of the fat store that makes it
more or less dangerous?

AIUI it leads to a fatty buildup around all those organs around
the midsection, inclusing the liver. Not a good thing,
apparently.

That sounds plausible. Thanks.

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wafflycat said:

Got weighed this evening. Lost 2lbs this week. When I started going

to WW, I

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was verging on the morbidly obese. I am now now longer even obese - I

am

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merely overweight! Onwards & downwards.

Cheers, helen s

Speaking as the world's most well-padded vegan, I applaud you (and
incidentally hope I haven't double-posted - the perils of
googlegroups).

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Do you do core-strength exercises? Swiss balls are good for this. If
you already have a low body fat then you'll need to tone upthe
stomach muscles for the final bit.

Loads of core-strength exercises - my bike has drops :-)

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Otherwise, cycle more, eat less.

No, just eat less - I've already increased the exercise and it hasn't
worked. Of course I won't reduce the amount of exercise I do, partly
because I'd start gaining weight, but mostly because I chose activities I
really enjoy. B'ah.

Mark Tranchant said:

Mark Thompson said:

In spite of being young, fittish and almost immune to weight gain I've
not been able to shift my proto-beerbelly,

Stop drinking beer? Or is that as inflammatory as suggesting compulsory
helmet use and shared-use cyclepaths?

Outrageous. Wash your mouth out please. With a nice pint, preferrably.

James

dkahn400 said:

In rec.bicycles.tech they often quote the typical cost of shaving
weight off a bicycle as $1 per gram.

55p/g is a lot cheaper than quite a few, er, "hobbies" I can think of...

;-)

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Mark Thompson <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Loads of core-strength exercises - my bike has drops :-)

That's not sufficient, and indeed, doesn't do anything for your
core strength. Cycling is pretty unique in that it requires
core strength (for sport cycling) but doesn't develop it.

Arhtur

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wafflycat said:

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My 'must haves' are porridge for breakfast (30g oats, a little sweetener,
water - all zapped in microwave) topped with fresh fruit; that keeps me
going until lunchtime without hunger pangs

If your moring schedule permits it, I *strongly* recommend
getting a double boiler (AKA porringer) and making "real"
porridge (my partners favourite is Tesco organic oats,
but tastes vary).

I make real porridge. I use proper porridge oats but they just cook a damn
sight quicker in the microwave. Microwaves can be extremely useful and do
real porridge to perfection.

Cheers, helen s

Jeremy Collins <[email hidden]> wrote:

: I hope you're not a believer in that old "weight training turns fat into
: muscle" myth...

Did you read what I wrote? I said ..

************ If you already have a low body fat *************

and

******* Otherwise, cycle more, eat less. ************

Seems clear enough to me

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wafflycat said:

Slow & steady is the usual way to help ensure it stays off long
term. I'm finding it relatively easy to lose (51.5lbs since mid-
December), ...

My God, that's 2 complete bicycles!

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Actually it's a huge [censored] & bosums ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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It does help explain why Helen is now able to ride with Nathan without
slowing him down.

Well, it's not that I don't slow him down, I do as he's much faster than I
am. However, I slow him down without getting out of breath in the process
;-)

Cheers, helen s

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In rec.bicycles.tech they often quote the typical cost of shaving
weight off a bicycle as $1 per gram. It's also been pointed out this is
actually a weight saving of 2 grams per dollar spent, as a dollar bill
itself weighs approximately a gram.

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Well done Helen! I'm permanently at 11st 11lbs and it seems my beer intake
exactly matches my exercise rate, but I'm not looking to lose any weight
as my BMI is 22 although I could climb hills better If I was 10st
something but you can be too thin as well.

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Ta ;-) I'm going to settle at somewhere in the healthy weight range for my
height. I don't intend to be skinny - healthy will be fine.

Cheers, helen s

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Speaking as the world's most well-padded vegan, I applaud you (and
incidentally hope I haven't double-posted - the perils of
googlegroups).

Ta muchly ;-) The PSF tutu is a better fit these days ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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rob said:

done the atkins for two weeks lost a stone and it has stayed off going back
on it shortly aim to lose another stone

lumme... a stone in a fortnight?

Chris said:

rob said:

done the atkins for two weeks lost a stone and it has stayed off

going back

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on it shortly aim to lose another stone

lumme... a stone in a fortnight?

In 2002 I lost just over two stones in three weeks. I was taken ill
with a compbination of heat exhaustion and giardiasis in the High Atlas
mountains, though. It wasn't pleasant, nor healthy, particularly as I
started out at 12st9. It was easy, though, not eating for 6 days but
still continuing with the trek.

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That's not sufficient, and indeed, doesn't do anything for your
core strength. Cycling is pretty unique in that it requires
core strength (for sport cycling) but doesn't develop it.

Why's that?

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rob said:

done the atkins for two weeks lost a stone and it has stayed off
going back on it shortly aim to lose another stone

lumme... a stone in a fortnight?

Hah! I had my second blood clot ten days ago. Had my first Heparin
injection at 4.30pm on Wednesday last, and in less than twelve hours I
lost half a stone.

It's not a technique of weight loss I'd recommend, mind you. And it may
lead to an even more radical weight loss technique which I'm not at all
keen to try.

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